Posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:03 PM PST by jan in Colorado
In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.
Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:
"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)
And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:
"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)
Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.
Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''
Sounds good so far.
But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.
This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.
Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?
I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'
In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.
This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.
So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.
The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.
Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.
The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.
Now that you have made it clear just what you personally think we shouldn't do, how's about you cough up an idea or two of what we should? I mean, I would like to hear from you how you plan to remove all the islamic terrorists from the face of the earth (as you say), while the koran exists seemingly only to breed more of the same...you might have an answer, give it a try. We are all ears.
You don't read to well, do ya? This "religion" (in reality a cult) considers those who are not "members" as infidels.
Infidels, according to islam, are to either ne converted--or killed. You have to love the cult of mohammmed (may he eat pig fat) for it's sheer simplicity. Essentially, it's "join us or die"
What part of that do you NOT understand?
Ideas? He won't have any. He's all words and no action.
"Islam is not in America to coexist. Islam is in America to DOMINATE!"
And that's all there is to it!
VERY well put, TC!
"Poor me? You don't know who you're talking to.
I'm a Christian who believes Islam is a totally false religion.
Does that mean I have to agree with the extremists here who think we should ban religious freedom in America for those we don't like?"
Listen to yourself...you're a Christian who believes islam is a totally FALSE religion.
Jorge, islam is not a religion...it is an evil cult of hatred and death to people like you and myself. I am a Christian too.
The false 'religion' of islam wants to wipe people like ourselves off the face of this earth if we do not submit to them.
I know my post to you was harsh; but these are harsh times and we must stand up to this evil cult for the sake of all decent people living on this earth.
Please forgive me for responding to your post in such a negative way, but you must inform yourself about the danger we and our loved one's face if this evil takes hold.
You must know that defending evil only empowers evil.
I am not an extremist. Islam is extremist.
It is the ideology of islam which is destroying these simple people who do not know better.
Your politically correct defense of islam and labeling of some of us on this forum as extremists is faulty thinking.
Show me where I have contradicted ANYTHING I have previously posted.
YOU CAN'T.
So far all YOU have been able to do is assign me those positions you feel comfortable attacking.
You either have no clue as to what my position is or you are too ashamed to admit my criticisms are RIGHT.
I am STILL waiting for you to address ANYTHING I actually posted!
If you learn nothing else tonight, learn THIS! Islam is not in America to coexist. Islam is in America to DOMINATE!
So you agree that we should remove freedom of religion from the Constitution and ban Islam from America?
I'm always hoping that one of them aplogist fellows will come up with something we haven't thought of yet. The whole world is waiting for his answer. But we get the same old same old...Freedom of Religion sh*t.
I'll believe islam is a religion when they stop preaching that allah wants us all dead, and not one moment before.
Right?
You think that Islam is such a peaceful religion but you forget that islam is responsible for the worst terror acts in the last 50 years. You speak as if the terrorists just happen to be islamics that have chose the wrong path.
Sorry, champ--you are clueless. YOU ignore the facts of what islam is--either by design or by ignorance.
As for being ashamed, that is what you ought to be. Stop trying to cast islam in such a peaceful light, as if they were pure as the driven snow. YOU come and call others extremists when you have no idea what that term really means.
I've read every one of your posts.
Don't tell me to calm down. You haven't seen me upset yet!
I've got an idea for you since you can't seem to come up with any of your own:
How about we ban the Quran? And the Hadith? And the Surahs?
These are the basis for the terrorist acts.
Kill them.
Anyone who subscribes to any form of terrorism has forfeited their right to live among civilized human beings. They made their decision. Get rid of them.
I'm talking about terrorists and those who support them.
That doesn't mean I support wiping an entire religion off the face of the earth like some of the irrational posts in this thread. OK?
Jorge is typical...all bluster and name calling and very little in the way of solid ideas. We've seen that type before and no doubt will see more.
He thinks that Freedom of Religion allows that religion to kill others in that religions name.
What horsesh*t! Wonder if he will think that way if the islamofascists knock off his family in the nest expression of freedom of religion?
Our nation is based on the premise that God endows us with certain inalienble rights. If we should come into contact with a belief system -- whether it's predicated on the supernatural or not -- that says "nope, rights are not inalienable, and if my adult daughter should disagree I have an obligation to kill her" then it is our obligation to oppose this belief with every fiber of our being.
All you seem to know how to do is make speeches and pontificate about those issues you feel strongly about.
I'm NOT disagreeing that Islamic terrorists need to be wiped out.
I repeat. My position in this thread is that those who call for outlawing Islam altogether are just as intolerant as the Islamic extremists.
I'm still waiting to hear where I am wrong.
Long live Broadsword!
"That doesn't mean I support wiping an entire religion off the face of the earth like some of the irrational posts in this thread. OK?"
Now that's where you run right off the track into the realm of fantasy. It may have escaped your notice because you are so enraged, that what we do is discuss what islam is and what islam does, not only to the 'filthy kuffar' but to their own people. You, in your rage, accuse. We seek answers.
Methinks you protest too much. Maybe in your angry little black heart, you are accusing us of something you, yourself might be potentially more guilty of. Come on, admit it, it's you who wants to kill them all, isn't it?
Then I think you take the message boards entirely too seriously.
Life is short. Try to enjoy disagreeing with people on Free Republic. It's fun!
Long Live Broadsword!
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