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TERRI SCHIAVO MARCH 2005 DAILIES Fla's Til of the Hun Sets March Date to Starve Terri
Terri's Fight, The Empire Journal, World Net Daily, Life News ^ | February 28, 2005 | floriduh voter

Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter

Terri's Freepers,

Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.

What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.

Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.

If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.

A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.

Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.

What can we do?

1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI

2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.

3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.

4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.

5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.

6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.

8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.

9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.

Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.

Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.

This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.

GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.

If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: eeevil conservative

Just red x's for this post. The first pic looks ok tho. Mr. Gibbs is tall and handsome. MS is just tall and creepy. How tall is Terri , btw. About 5'2" or 3?


6,461 posted on 03/14/2005 6:39:20 PM PST by wisconsinconservative ("Life Support".....It's what's for dinner!)
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To: Sun
Here's a site about shunting for the prevention of hydrocephalus.


http://www.health.adelaide.edu.au/paed-neuro/hydro.html

I don't know if Terri would benefit from it. There also is a possibility her scan might not be an accurate representation, as she appears to function at a higher level than the scan would indicate.
6,462 posted on 03/14/2005 6:39:54 PM PST by tertiary01
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To: Etanoissapmoc
You obviously do not understand the genuinely FABULOUS IDEA of fencing in CLEARWATER.....keeping certain cult members and other assorted trashers of the mentally disabled locked in...where they can play their God games upon each other and leave the rest of us alone!

We are MORE than aware that Pinellas Park is the locale of their latest would be murder....

6,463 posted on 03/14/2005 6:41:26 PM PST by Republic (My life support tonight-a carb lite beer and brie.)
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To: wisconsinconservative

Yes-- that is Gibbs

His TOUCH is awesome too-- very warm and comforting-- gentle-- YOU KNOW THE LORD IS WITH HIM!!!

HE was sooooo kind and warm and sincere!!

He remembered me on Sunday and dragged me over to Bob and took the picture of Mr Schindler and myself...

A REAL GENTLEMAN!!

I was VERY IMPRESSED with him!


6,464 posted on 03/14/2005 6:44:22 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: wisconsinconservative

I think Terri is 5'3"

I am about 5'2"


6,465 posted on 03/14/2005 6:45:20 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: eeevil conservative

Now I have to go gander Gibbs...darn it....which one is it in that page full of small photos you laid out so beautifully? (LOTS OF GREAT PEOPLE! LOTS!)


6,466 posted on 03/14/2005 6:50:10 PM PST by Republic (My life support tonight-a carb lite beer and brie.)
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To: All; tertiary01; FL_engineer

Thanks very much for info. Here's a story that was posted awhile back that I found, & I included tertiary01's link:

Terri Schiavo Can Still be Rehabilitated, Nobel Prize-Nominated Doctor Says
Life Site News ^ | March 7, 2005 | Steven Ertelt

Clearwater, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Despite the contention of Terri Schiavo's estranged husband Michael and courts that have allowed him to starve her to death, a doctor nominated for the Nobel Prize says he believes medical therapies are still available that could help Terri partly recover from her disabled state.

Dr. William Hammesfahr is an internationally recognized expert on cases of brain-injured patients. He has been identified in helping patients with chronic brain injuries from many causes actually leave long term disability, and return to work.

Terri Schiavo's injury, hypoxic encephalopathy, is a type of stroke that he treats every day with success.

"We, and others I know, have treated many patients worse than Terri and have seen them regain independence and dignity," Hammesfahr said.

"There are many approaches that would help Terri Schiavo," Dr. Hammesfahr explained. "I know, because I had the opportunity to personally examine her, her medical records, and her X-rays."

"It is time to help Terri, instead of just warehousing her," he added. "She would have benefited from treatment years ago, but it is not too late to start now."




Here's a site about shunting for the prevention of hydrocephalus.

http://www.health.adelaide.edu.au/paed-neuro/hydro.html


6,467 posted on 03/14/2005 6:53:19 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: eeevil conservative
Your pictures are wonderful .. great crowd. I love this sign:

FEED TERRI - IMPEACH GREER!!

6,468 posted on 03/14/2005 6:56:43 PM PST by STARWISE (WELCOME TO CLEARWATER, FL & THE "FELOS & GREER TERMINAL HOSPICE MARKETING GROUP)
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To: pc93; Republic; Freepertwo; Canadian Outrage; All
Would someone please explain WHY they think the latest version of HB701 will not be ignored by Greer? Seems to me he will latch onto the 'exceptions' clause, lines 165 thru 168, and say that Terri has already been 'found' to meet that exception, so he would say the new bill does NOT apply to her.

An earlier version of the bill had a better 'exceptions' clause, one that used the new phrase 'express and informed consent'. Both versions have a clear definition near the top that defines 'express and informed consent', and it is tougher than what Greer decided.

The latest bill has a more whimpy 'exceptions' clause. It just uses the same old... "clear and convincing evidence" terminology.

I suspect Greer will say Terri already MEETS that exception. I believe Greer already DID pass his edict that Michael gave 'clear and convincing evidence' to this effect. I'm sure Greer is wrong, but without the new phrase 'express and informed consent' in the exception, I think Terri may still be in immediate danger.

Where am I wrong?

Committee Substitution 2 - HB 701

If I'm right, don't we ALL need to be lobbying the members of the Health & Families Council to put the phrase 'express and informed consent' BACK into the exceptions clause?

6,469 posted on 03/14/2005 6:57:48 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: All

Oh .. forgive my innocence misspelling ..just noticed it ;(


6,470 posted on 03/14/2005 6:59:13 PM PST by STARWISE (WELCOME TO CLEARWATER, FL & THE "FELOS & GREER TERMINAL HOSPICE MARKETING GROUP)
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To: TAdams8591

He will support it. That's my flat prediction. The aide is being cautious until he has given the bill a thorough look.


6,471 posted on 03/14/2005 7:00:03 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: FL_engineer

That is an issue of concern...can it be changed without going back thru the judiciary committee?


6,472 posted on 03/14/2005 7:00:41 PM PST by Republic (My life support tonight-a carb lite beer and brie.)
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To: Chocolate Rose

THANKS! its great to hear that felos is having fits!


6,473 posted on 03/14/2005 7:02:23 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: Republic

He is towards the bottom-- me and him-- he has glasses on and I have red hair...

Hmmm

the pic worked when I first posted it....

Now it is just the red x....

DANG!

Sorry...


6,474 posted on 03/14/2005 7:06:03 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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Florida Legislators Agree on Bill to Save Terri Schiavo From Starvation
by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
March 14, 2005

Tallahassee, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Florida lawmakers on Monday reached a deal on legislation that could prevent the beginning of a painful starvation death for Terri Schiavo. Legislators agreed to a modified version of legislation previously introduced to help disabled patients.

The revised bill is expected to have hearings tomorrow and come up for a vote on the House and Senate floors as early as Thursday.

Terri's estranged husband Michael is allowed to begin the 7-10 day long starvation process Friday afternoon by removing her feeding tube.

The new bill would prevent a legal guardian from allowing a person in a so-called persistent vegetative state to die by withholding food or water. That could only happen if the patient had previously issued an advance directive authorizing it to be withheld.

Although Terri is not in a persistent vegetative state, Florida courts have sided with Michael and ruled that she is in such a medical condition. As a result, the legislation would apply to Terri and supersede the court's decision to allow her death or the death of any similar patient.

Governor Jed Bush will likely sign the legislation once it receives a final approval. His legal counsel has been working with members of the legislature to fashion the bill, according to an Orlando Sentinel newspaper report.


"If we can pretty much keep it intact, he'll be on board," Rep. Dennis Bailey, a Republican who is sponsoring the bill in the House, told the Orlando paper.

The revised legislation was created as an alternative to a broader bill that would have required doctors and courts to presume that a patient would want food and water unless specified otherwise in an advance directive.

The newer bill, aimed at legal guardians and only PVS patients, will likely enjoy more support.

The new bill would only allow food and water to be deprived if there is "clear and convincing evidence" that the PVS patient had verbally indicated he did not want it.

House Judiciary Committee chairman Rep. David Simmons, told the Orlando paper that was a tough standard to meet.

A casual conversation "sitting around the dinner table, that's not going to rise to the level that will permit the denial of sustenance and hydration," Simmons said.

That's the kind of conversation Michael claims he had with Terri and the one courts have favored. They declined to rule in favor of a best friend of Terri who indicated Terri said she would never want food and water to be denied to her.

If approved and signed by the governor, this would be the second time the Florida legislature and Governor Bush have stepped in to save Terri's life.

The Florida Supreme Court overturned a previous bill more specifically aimed at Terri saying it was a violation of the separation of powers clause in the state constitution.

Republican Sen. Dan Webster, the bill's sponsor in the Senate, told the Orlando newspaper that this revised bill was drafted to meet the concerns Florida courts cited with the previous one.

Related web sites:
Terri Schiavo's parents - http://www.TerrisFight.org
Florida state legislature - http://www.leg.state.fl.us


6,475 posted on 03/14/2005 7:06:24 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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in reference to Jeb--this part is fuzzy to me--

""If we can pretty much keep it intact, he'll be on board," Rep. Dennis Bailey, a Republican who is sponsoring the bill in the House, told the Orlando paper."


6,477 posted on 03/14/2005 7:10:04 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: FL_engineer

6,478 posted on 03/14/2005 7:10:34 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: TAdams8591
I phoned Frist's office this afternoon. His aide informed me that the Senator was looking into the facts of this case, investigating Terri's medical condition and discussing it with doctors. FRIST does not yet know whether or not he will support S.539!!!!!!!!

Don't depend on hearsay medical records! Subpoena Terri to testify in person!

6,479 posted on 03/14/2005 7:12:23 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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