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Why I Am a Liberal (Not trolling - Jist food for thought)
useless knowledge ^ | Warren C. Norwood

Posted on 02/18/2005 2:52:25 PM PST by loe joe

Some of my friends, family members, and co-workers wonder how I could be a political liberal in the midst of this new swell of conservatism the United States. The answers to that are all too simple.

I am a liberal because the system originated by liberals called Social Security has made my parents' retirement more possible and comfortable than it would otherwise have been.

I am a liberal because the system originated by liberals called Medicare paid for my mother to have two knees and a hip replaced at a cost that otherwise could not have been born by all of her children together.

I am a liberal because Medicare paid for my father's operation to remove a cancerous kidney at a cost that would otherwise certainly have forced my parents to liquidate their assets.

I am a liberal because that system originated by liberals called WIC gives my daughter food stamps for cheese and milk and other necessities she needs to feed her children.

I am a liberal because that system demanded by liberals called company-paid employee medical insurance helps pay doctor bills for me and my wife and my daughter and son-in-law and grandchildren and sister and most of my other close relatives.

I am a liberal because the idea of autonomy of the individual is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because the idea of political liberty is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because government by the consent of the governed is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because the Bill of Rights is a set of liberal ideas which protect us all. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of worship, freedom of the press, due process of law, freedom from torture, the right to face our accusers, the writ of habeas corpus, and freedom from unreasonable search and seizure are all liberal ideas. Most people in the world do not have those rights.

I am a liberal because those liberal ideas in our Constitution give us control of our representatives from the school board to the Senate and President of the United States, give us the liberal idea of checks and balances, and the liberal idea of no taxation without representation.

I am a liberal because the idea of public education is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because the idea of a five day work week is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because the idea of a strong, well funded and disciplined military under civilian control is a liberal idea, as is the notion of Veteran's benefits and military retirement.

I am a liberal because the Geneva Conventions are a liberal idea. The conventions protect American prisoners and all prisoners of signees from torture and abuse.

I am a liberal because the idea of the public maintenance of roads is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because civil rights, children's rights, women's rights, and labor rights, are all liberal ideas.

I am a liberal because almost all the progressive ideas of the last four centuries have been liberal ideas resisted by the conservatives of their times. Those liberal ideas make this a better place to live for me, my family, my friends, my community, my country, and my world.

I ask people who insist on repudiating liberalism to please check off the liberal ideas above they are ready to do without.


TOPICS: Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gimme; iloveche; inbeforethezot; kittychow; mentalillness; newbie; roadapples; troll; wantsfreestuff; whiner; willworkforjist; zot
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To: CAluvdubya

He's saying, if it weren't for liberals...we wouldn't have paved roads. Clean underwear is also probably a "liberal idea".


61 posted on 02/18/2005 3:03:02 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Darksheare

Could be!


62 posted on 02/18/2005 3:03:06 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
The Geneva conventions are designed to protect soldiers...not terrorists, btw...

Is that sarcasm? I can't interpret it any other way.

63 posted on 02/18/2005 3:03:36 PM PST by silent_jonny (I'm fringier than you)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You know that you are paying for it anyway right? Nothing is free. It's called TAXES

You assume that this guy payes taxes. From the sound of things I would bet that he doesn't.

64 posted on 02/18/2005 3:04:13 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Apparently, this is the only job for which I am suited. I am beset by the ironies of my life)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Hmm.. Does sound like him.


65 posted on 02/18/2005 3:04:16 PM PST by Darksheare (It is not a ZOT, it is aggressive electro-dermal exfoliation! Yeeeeeeeeeeeagh!)
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To: loe joe

So basically, you are liberal because you like to sponge off people who actually WORK to support themselves and their families.


66 posted on 02/18/2005 3:04:21 PM PST by Politicalmom (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.")
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To: loe joe
In before the ZOT.

I am a liberal because that system demanded by liberals called company-paid employee medical insurance helps pay doctor bills for me and my wife and my daughter and son-in-law and grandchildren and sister and most of my other close relatives.

"Me and my wife?" How about "my wife and I." Your grammar is awful.

67 posted on 02/18/2005 3:04:28 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: loe joe
You give liberals a lot of good credit.

Why don't you give them the bad.

The welfare class, Two World Wars, broken families, one fits all education, unchecked crime, corruption, drug abuse.

Have I missed anything?

I know that I did.

68 posted on 02/18/2005 3:04:40 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: loe joe
"I am a liberal because civil rights, children's rights, women's rights, and labor rights, are all liberal ideas. "

What the h*ll are "labor rights"??

69 posted on 02/18/2005 3:05:23 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: loe joe
I am a liberal because I can post tripe on a conservative forum and run away because I know I cannot defend against the rebuttals posted by FReepers who are smarter than me.
70 posted on 02/18/2005 3:05:35 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: loe joe
Joe, Here is your sign.... Might want to hold onto something


71 posted on 02/18/2005 3:05:44 PM PST by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: Cold Heat

realpolitik, Hitler, Stalinism, the Holocaust...all born out of liberal idealisms...


72 posted on 02/18/2005 3:05:56 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: loe joe
I am a liberal because the idea of public education is a liberal idea.

I am a conservative because the idea of public education should be to actually learn something, not fund liberal teachers unions at the expense of students. Reading and writing should come before condoms on cucumbers and diversity training.

73 posted on 02/18/2005 3:06:04 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: jdm
"Me and my wife?" How about "my wife and I." Your grammar is awful.

Can you imagine this man is a "Teacher of Writers"?
About the author: Warren C. Norwood is the author of thirteen published novels. He is a teacher of writers with forty-three professionally published students. He also plays mountain dulcimer and writes music books. Email: techpubswarren@yahoo.com

74 posted on 02/18/2005 3:06:04 PM PST by Brian328i
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To: loe joe
Don't get the idea that all liberals are good! What we complain about are the leftie nutjobs running around lying about the conservative ideas!

And most of those "liberal" ideas/things you said are helped by the conservatives.

And I disagree that the Constitution is an liberal idea! The statements within are very conservative!!!

75 posted on 02/18/2005 3:07:05 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Liberalism.........Bah Humbug)
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To: loe joe

This guy is using an archaic form of the word liberal.

The Founding fathers were liberals for their time, but not by post-1968 standards, after the neoMarxist hijacked the Proggressive movement.

Yeah, I am a 'classic' pre-1968 liberal also, but that and 50 cents might buy you a cup of coffee.

That is a past era, and the author's muddled analysis results from his ambiguous use of these words.


76 posted on 02/18/2005 3:07:36 PM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
realpolitik, Hitler, Stalinism, the Holocaust...all born out of liberal idealisms...

Thanks for adding to the list! I know there is more!:-)

77 posted on 02/18/2005 3:07:46 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Little Pig

"Lemme edit that a bit for you: "

HOORAY! well said !


78 posted on 02/18/2005 3:07:54 PM PST by stompk
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To: loe joe
I am a liberal because the idea of political liberty is a liberal idea.

Actually it is a conservative idea. The modern liberal idea is that they rule and we submit to their their stupid whims.

79 posted on 02/18/2005 3:08:13 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Apparently, this is the only job for which I am suited. I am beset by the ironies of my life)
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To: loe joe

Glad all my taxes helped pay for this liberal's goodies. /sarcasm/


80 posted on 02/18/2005 3:08:34 PM PST by Arkie2
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