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Oldest fossil 'rabbit' unearthed (55 million years ago)
BBC ^ | Thursday, 17 February, 2005

Posted on 02/17/2005 7:46:34 PM PST by nickcarraway

Gomphos had long hindlimbs, just like a modern rabbit The fossilised skeleton of a rabbit-like creature that lived 55 million years ago has been found in Mongolia, Science magazine reports. Gomphos elkema, as it is known, is the oldest member of the rabbit family ever to be found.

Gomphos was surprisingly similar to modern rabbits - and probably hopped around on its elongated hindlimbs.

The fossil adds weight to the idea that rabbit-like creatures first evolved no earlier than 65 million years ago.

"This skeleton is very complete," co-author Robert Asher, of Humboldt Universität, Berlin, Germany, told the BBC News website.

"Gomphos gives us valuable information about the anatomy of early rabbits - it tells us what they looked like.

"Gomphos had a true 'rabbit's foot'; that is, a foot more than twice as long as the hand that could be used for hopping."

But the ancient creature did have some traits that were unlike its modern relative. For example, Gomphos had quite a big tail and some of its teeth were more squirrel-like than rabbit-like.

Scanty evidence

Prior to this discovery, the oldest, most complete fossil lagomorphs (the family which includes rabbits, pikas and hares) were about 35 million years old.

Scanty fossil evidence has led to some uncertainty about when modern placental mammals first appeared Scanty fossil evidence has led to some uncertainty about when modern placental mammals first appeared in evolutionary time.

One camp believes that modern placental mammals (which include elephants, bats, rabbits, lions etc, but not kangaroos, opossums or echidnas) existed long before the famed "KT" boundary 65 million years ago, which marked the demise of the dinosaurs.

The other camp disagrees with this view, and instead claims that modern placentals did not originate until close to, or shortly after, this event.

Great extinction

Gomphos has waded - or hopped - into the debate, adding evidence to the latter theory.

Hitherto, there was a strong school of thought that suggested lagomorphs are more closely related to an extinct group of Cretaceous animals called the "zalambdalestids", than they are to other, modern mammal groups.

Zalambdalestids lived before the great mass extinction event 65 million years ago. So, if they were close relatives of the lagomorphs, it would suggest modern placental groups were diverging during the Cretaceous period.

But an analysis of Gomphos suggests this is not the case, Dr Asher and his colleagues believe. This makes it more likely that modern lagomorphs - and other placental mammals - originated after the dinosaurs went extinct.

"This skeleton gives us more data to throw into the analysis," he told the BBC News website. "And using this new information we favour the second idea."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: archaeology; eocene; ggg; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; history; mongolia; paleocene; petm; rabbit
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To: nickcarraway

HOP HOP HOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 02/17/2005 8:29:18 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: nickcarraway; Conspiracy Guy
I have no idea what you're talking about.


So here's a gomphos with a pancake on his head.


22 posted on 02/17/2005 8:30:04 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: gnosys
Like.."Night of the Lupus"...one of the funniest "serious" S.F. out there. *grin*
23 posted on 02/17/2005 8:33:10 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: gnosys
Like.."Night of the Lupus"...one of the funniest "serious" S.F. out there. *grin*
24 posted on 02/17/2005 8:33:13 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: nickcarraway
I do understand what you are saying, but here is a rabbit with pancakes on his head anyway.
He's Oolong and has his own website. http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~sokaisha/rabbit/rabbit.htm
25 posted on 02/17/2005 8:34:46 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: nickcarraway
The common ancestry of both rabbits and rodents lends scientific weight to my calling rats dumpster bunnies. Since I am not a scientist I had always thought of rabbits emerging as a separate line the late Eocene rather then in the early part. Does Gomphos refer to the large fixed teeth?
26 posted on 02/17/2005 9:02:07 PM PST by dog breath
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To: nickcarraway

...ever see the old film, "Night of the Lepus" (or something like that)? It was about giant, carnivorous rabbits who attacked and ate people, IIRC.


27 posted on 02/17/2005 9:09:25 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Not exactly the one I had in mind, but very very close. Thanks.


28 posted on 02/17/2005 9:13:45 PM PST by dangus
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To: balch3
55 million? I highly doubt it.

If I recall correctly, the Christian creation story has God creating the Earth by Himself; I don't remember Him consulting any Christians on advice for how to best bring about complex lifeforms. The story certainly doesn't have Him creating the Earth by committee.

29 posted on 02/17/2005 9:19:33 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: nickcarraway

Another old fossil was found wearing a petrified pant suit. But I digress.


30 posted on 02/17/2005 9:20:47 PM PST by Rocky
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To: nickcarraway

BTTT


31 posted on 02/17/2005 9:27:20 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: nickcarraway

They should make this "rabbit" fossil the mascot for the soon to be launched Attack Submarine, the USS Jimmy Carter. Seems appropriate somehow.


32 posted on 02/17/2005 9:51:39 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: nickcarraway
"Gomphos gives us valuable information about the anatomy of early rabbits - it tells us what they looked like.

Surprisingly they looked like rabbits.

33 posted on 02/17/2005 10:00:35 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah, but did it "taste just like chicken"?


34 posted on 02/17/2005 10:31:27 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: martin_fierro

Hmmmm on the same day the USN Jimmah Carter is launched ?!?!?!


35 posted on 02/17/2005 10:33:21 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: nickcarraway
They also found the skeleton of a prehistoric duck. In between the two of them was a stone tablet. On it was written the following:

"Rabbit season!"

"Duck season!"

"Rabbit season, fire!"

36 posted on 02/17/2005 10:42:26 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like.")
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To: nickcarraway
Did the rabbit have "Teef like `dis!" ?

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Mark

37 posted on 02/17/2005 11:00:22 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: FairOpinion; freedom44
Thanks F44 and FairO, for the pings. GGG digest item.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
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38 posted on 02/18/2005 1:28:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("Are you an over due book? Because you've got FINE written all over you!")
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To: familyop
That's the one, "Night of the Lepus (or Lupas)" starred Staurt Whitman and Janet Leigh (1972 :)
39 posted on 02/18/2005 3:19:31 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Darkwolf377

Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wabbits!


40 posted on 02/18/2005 4:51:35 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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