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Archeologists discover St. Paul's tomb
Catholic World News ^ | Feb 17, 2005 | unknown

Posted on 02/17/2005 12:58:57 PM PST by Mike Fieschko

Rome, Feb. 17 (CWNews.com) - Vatican archeologists believe that they have identified the tomb of St. Paul in the Roman basilica that bears his name.

A sarcophagus which may contain the remains of St. Paul was identified in the basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls, reports Giorgio Filippi, a archeology specialist with the Vatican Museums. The sarcophagus was discovered during the excavations carried out in 2002 and 2003 around the basilica, which is located in the south of Rome. Having reached what they believe is a positive identification of the tomb, Vatican experts will soon make a public announcement of their discovery.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; archeology; discovery; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; morelies; rome; stpaul; tomb; vatican
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To: Grn_Lantern

There is no possibility that Paul was illiterate.

He was a student of the famous rabbi Gamaliel, and one of the kings before whom he testifed (Festus?) said to him, "Paul, your GREAT LEARNING has made you mad."

Paul's family specifically sent him from Turkey to Jerusalem to study.


81 posted on 02/17/2005 3:09:53 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Unam Sanctam
I am an amateur archeology buff. The Byzantines were very good about finding the Christian holy sites, and so far most of them have held up to scrutiny.

Helna's visions have been shown to be pretty accurate so far!
82 posted on 02/17/2005 3:12:52 PM PST by redgolum
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83 posted on 02/17/2005 3:13:03 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: xzins

I'm not denying Paul (and Saul) were very smart, but there's no evidence that he knew how to write.

No one knew how to write back then except scibes...that was the whole point of being a scribe. If everyone could have written, there wouldn't have been scribes. So, perhaps "illiterate" is the wrong word (I'm sure he could read), but writing is a whole different matter.

I mean, look at monks, they were the people that had to copy texts for 1000 years because no one else knew how to write.

Again, nothing nasty intended...just a discussion.


84 posted on 02/17/2005 3:14:38 PM PST by Grn_Lantern
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To: Bertha Fanation
The thorne in his side was that he was an unapologetic homophobe!

If that was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, you might want to practice a little bit more before attempting that posting style again.

On the other hand, if you were deadly serious, then enjoy the ride...
85 posted on 02/17/2005 3:15:02 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: RS
Just wondering what other reason there could be ?

Well, if you heard pounding coming from inside, that might be a good reason...
86 posted on 02/17/2005 3:16:18 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: TonyRo76

>> Really?! That's a "denial" I wasn't even aware of.

Well the Hittite empire (prior to Hugo Winckler's find in 1906) was thought to be another example of a Bible 'myth' since there was no other mention of the Hittites or their Empire.

As my archaeology professors always told me "An absence of evidence does not indicate evidence of absence".


87 posted on 02/17/2005 3:17:45 PM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: TonyRo76
Until the last 50 years or less, the Hittites were held to be an example of how the Bible was wrong.


And then they started finding sites that fit the Biblical record, and they began to find references to a Grecian people in what is now Turkey.

The rest is history!
88 posted on 02/17/2005 3:21:15 PM PST by redgolum
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To: Betis70

Opps, you beat me by a few!


89 posted on 02/17/2005 3:22:33 PM PST by redgolum
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To: keats5

The "thorn" was probably a craving for fresh bagels (or is it chala?). They just don't make them like they do back in the Promise Land, do they? I suppose that was one of the hardest things to give up for his missionary work.


90 posted on 02/17/2005 3:23:19 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child. "Fetus" means "young one".)
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To: OptimusPrime5

From my understanding, all Catholic alters are required to have some sort of relic (by which I mean remains) that blesses them.

Admittedly, I'm a Protestant, and if I'm wrong, please someone correct me...it's just school learnin'


92 posted on 02/17/2005 3:26:11 PM PST by Grn_Lantern
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To: Grn_Lantern

One day the pharisees were trying to trick Jesus with a marriage question. Jesus said "Have you not __________ in the book of Moses..." (Matthew 12:26)

When they brought the woman caught in adultery before Jesus, the bible says he "stooped down and ________on the ground." (John 8:8)

The Apostle John wished to communicate with some dear believers, but could not. His words were: "3Jo 1:13 -
I had many things to ______, but I will not with ink and pen _______ unto thee:


93 posted on 02/17/2005 3:29:21 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Mike Fieschko; Kolokotronis

Basilica - St. Paul Outside the Walls
94 posted on 02/17/2005 3:29:53 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: anonymoussierra; missyme

)))ping(((


95 posted on 02/17/2005 3:31:03 PM PST by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His Blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: Sola Veritas
We also know that St Paul was a killer. He could have suffered from the trauma that killing brings to a soul: paranoia, vanity (rush of power), rage (or impatience with others' views). Recall that he encouraged those who wanted gentiles to be circumcised that the enforcers should go further and castrate themselves completely. That's not something I'd expect Jesus Himself to say, but hey, St Paul was just human. He had his pride to conquer.

Also, those who've murdered/killed have to deal with the ghosts of their past--literally. Jesus describes that when a Christian returns kindness for those who persecute, it's like dumping hot coals on their head. Persecuting Christians before becoming a Christian may have had lingering affects of guilt, along with the feeling of betraying his hardliner scholars and colleges he left behind (and had to abandon).
96 posted on 02/17/2005 3:32:04 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child. "Fetus" means "young one".)
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To: xzins

And somehow Paul is involved in these????


97 posted on 02/17/2005 3:33:08 PM PST by Grn_Lantern
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To: razorback-bert

DNA compared with which of his descendants?


98 posted on 02/17/2005 3:33:43 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: SaltyJoe
"We also know that St Paul was a killer."

Paul held the coats of those stoners of Stephen! Paul did not lie in 'wait' and premeditate to kill anybody, he was protecting what he believe to be preservation of the OLD way.

Now no where do you find it written that Paul was accused as being a killer.
99 posted on 02/17/2005 3:36:26 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: RS

"Just wondering what other reason there could be ?"

Two reasons tombs are opened are to see if the deceased is incorrupt, and to take relics.


100 posted on 02/17/2005 3:37:23 PM PST by dsc
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