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The coolest spy plane ever built, SR-71.
Various ^ | 2-5-05

Posted on 02/05/2005 3:15:15 PM PST by Indy Pendance

Edited on 02/05/2005 3:17:49 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

The coolest spy plane ever built, SR-71. I was watching Modern Marvels on the History channel last night. This aircraft broke all kinds of international speed and altitude records which still have not been beaten today. It was nothing for them to fly at 80,000 feet and it was a piece of cake to fly at about mach 3, or about 2100 mph. For those of you old enough, remember the sonic boom days? About 750 miles would create a sonic boom, or a doppler effect.

Here's the question, this plane was so fast, it was faster than the earth's rotation. What would happen with time over a long sustainable period of flying time? If it goes faster than the earth's rotation long enough, will it be ahead of time when it lands, or likewise in the opposite direction, will it go back in time. Do you think Einstein has an answer? Saturday night ponderings.



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KEYWORDS: flight; miltech; speedofsoundx5; spyplane; sr71
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To: Sloth

There are different fields of engineering.
And what field are you in?


201 posted on 02/05/2005 5:23:46 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: norton
Didn't need humint, didn't need manned recon, didn't need to bribe or grab anyone and sure as hell couldn't ask a citizen or traveller what they were up to.

Ugh - that kind of attitude we'll get lose a city next time. Sounds like the Clinton Doctrine.

202 posted on 02/05/2005 5:27:38 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Indy Pendance
Rank? Sign on date? Troll stuff? None crossed my mind. Pardon me if I find your lack of appreciation for general relativity amusing though.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

203 posted on 02/05/2005 5:29:23 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: ThomasPaine2000

It wasn't the SR-71 that launched the D-21 drones. A variant of the A-12 and later C-130s launched them. One of the drones went astray over China and ended up crashing in Russia. Kelly Johnson later visited Russia and was shown the remains of this stray D-21. The Russians had examined the drone in great detail and produced their own copy based on the 'gifted' technology.


204 posted on 02/05/2005 5:29:23 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: spower

Yep, the Black bird was started by Buick V-8's.


205 posted on 02/05/2005 5:29:41 PM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: Phsstpok
"There is an internationally accepted speed record for aircraft set from a fixed point in international waters off of England to a fixed point off of New York."

In the 70's an SR-71 set that record going from NY to England.
The SR-71 was ordered to do an in flight refueling. This fact was not released to the public at the time. They did it so the USSR wouldn't be able to calculate its top speed.
206 posted on 02/05/2005 5:30:08 PM PST by Balata
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To: Indy Pendance

My degree's in chemical engineering, though my job is more in the environmental discipline. Really though, we are talking junior-high physical science, here; relativistic effects are going to be negligible at any plane's speed, and the Earth's rotation is irrelevant.


207 posted on 02/05/2005 5:32:13 PM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Sloth
Relativistic engineering is still somewhat underdeveloped.
208 posted on 02/05/2005 5:32:30 PM PST by Connie Cardullo
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To: Sonny M

Think U-2S and RQ-4A/B.


209 posted on 02/05/2005 5:32:44 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Indy Pendance
OK, going with the Earth's rotation or against it has nothing to do with going forward or backward in time. That VERY BAD "science" is from the original Chris Reeve's Superman: The Movie. Do not count on Hollywood versions of comic books for your science.

The relativistic affect you mention is always "forward," regardless of direction of travel. All that happens is that, while traveling fast, you percieve time to be passing at a different rate than someone who is not traveling as fast (relative to some common reference point).

As to whether or not there is a relativistic effect, yes, there is. But it's so small that it would be virtually impossible to detect. Think about the relativistic effect of walking to the bathroom in your home. That is far closer to the effect on the pilot of an SR-71 than anything that would have Einseinian affects.

210 posted on 02/05/2005 5:36:37 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: delacoert

I'm trying to present the discussion to a general knowledge base. Sheesh, lighten up sherlock.


211 posted on 02/05/2005 5:38:06 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: barkeep

"Only one SR-71 crashed, at Edwards..."

FWIW, in the early 70's we were getting ready to fly a mission out of Okinawa, but had to go back into crew rest because an SR-71 came in for a landing and ran off the runway. I don't know how much damage was caused, but it was enough to get everyone's attention.


212 posted on 02/05/2005 5:41:59 PM PST by Balata
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To: Indy Pendance
Ah. I think I see my problem. Spelling.

rankor rancor

213 posted on 02/05/2005 5:42:06 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: yarddog

The Russians still use the reconnaissance variant of the MiG-25 FOXBAT. A variant of the plane (E-266) still holds the absolute height record set during 1973.


214 posted on 02/05/2005 5:42:22 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Sloth

I have a friend who is a chem e, designs candy. Kind of a cool job, when you think about it. Not everyone has our knowledge of physics. And not everyone had basic junior high science, especially today. It's an interesting question, the ad homonyms are better off on an evo or illegal immigration thread. We're trying to dig into the mysteries of life.


215 posted on 02/05/2005 5:44:21 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: ko_kyi
I loved the old joke about the Blackbird calling some ATC and requesting FL600. The ATC advised them cleared to climb to FL600. The pilot replied "descending to FL600."

Holy cow, that is a long way up.
216 posted on 02/05/2005 5:46:23 PM PST by advance_copy
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To: Indy Pendance
Sheesh, lighten up sherlock.

I keep looking for a "whiter shade of pale". ;)

217 posted on 02/05/2005 5:47:41 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: martin_fierro
LOL, I got a picture just like yours.

Isn't the one on the intrepid an early model, or a trainer?

218 posted on 02/05/2005 5:50:12 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: delacoert

LOL, see how easy it is?


219 posted on 02/05/2005 5:50:19 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

I would think that time is a constant and it cannot be changed.


220 posted on 02/05/2005 5:56:37 PM PST by John Lenin (Don't let them fool you)
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