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Corporate jet crashes during takeoff
MSNBC

Posted on 02/02/2005 4:46:08 AM PST by HAL9000

breaking on msnbc


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 448alliance; airport; bergencounty; crash; generalaviation; nojets; planecrash; rba; route46; rt46; teterboro; teterboroairport; toosmall
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To: Miss Marple
Expert phone in on Fox saying accidents like this are usually due to loss of power or flaps in improper position.

I am only reporting. I have no idea if this is correct or not.

61 posted on 02/02/2005 5:15:08 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Darksheare

If it was on take off..it would have a full fuel load...from the lack of a major fire..seems like the tanks held...pretty remarkable..


62 posted on 02/02/2005 5:15:51 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Miss Marple

We have enough pilots on FR to be able to say whether or not that is correct.
(I'm not a pilot, so I'll defer to them.)


63 posted on 02/02/2005 5:16:12 AM PST by Darksheare (Trolls beware, the icy hands of the forum wraith are behind you!)
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To: ken5050

Taped news feed from WABC says that according to tower conversation it was on take-off roll.


64 posted on 02/02/2005 5:16:39 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (My tagline knows what you're thinking... you beast!)
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To: HAL9000

Icing.


65 posted on 02/02/2005 5:16:52 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: pheasant

Maybe it was those Lasers again, we've had 3 or 4 in the Newark area.


66 posted on 02/02/2005 5:17:05 AM PST by Murphy63
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I was just gonna say that.


67 posted on 02/02/2005 5:17:32 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: nw_arizona_granny

This is spooky.


68 posted on 02/02/2005 5:17:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Miles O'Brien on CNN has been talking in-depth about icing.


69 posted on 02/02/2005 5:18:35 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Temperature 22.

Plane registered to Alliance, a tax consulting firm.
70 posted on 02/02/2005 5:19:25 AM PST by maggief
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Is there a way to verify icing if the ice melts in the fire?


71 posted on 02/02/2005 5:19:31 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (My tagline knows what you're thinking... you beast!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

The flaps probably got iced up and locked, preventing proper roll.


72 posted on 02/02/2005 5:20:07 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Remember the crash a few months ago in Colorado..killed the family of the NBC guy?..speculation also was that the plane wasn't de-iced..there were several articles that said that for these pirvate small jets..sometimes the cost of de-icing the plane..$$$$.can be the difference between the flight being profitable, or money losing..it's entirely up to the captain, at his discretion..no requirement for someone on the ground to make the call..


73 posted on 02/02/2005 5:20:24 AM PST by ken5050
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To: All

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146112,00.html
"Corporate Jet Crashes at NYC Area Airport"

Wednesday, February 02, 2005

TETERBORO, N.J.

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http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_020205_planecrash.html

last updated: 2/2/2005

"Jet Crashes on Takeoff from Teterboro"


ARTICLE SNIPPET: "(New York -WABC, February 2, 2005 ) — A jet plane missed the runway at Teterboro Airport and crashed into a warehouse across from Route 46 on Wednesday morning."

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http://www.google.com


74 posted on 02/02/2005 5:20:28 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Phsstpok

Saw them just now as well.
Didn't see it in the initial video I saw.


75 posted on 02/02/2005 5:20:41 AM PST by Darksheare (Trolls beware, the icy hands of the forum wraith are behind you!)
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To: SlowBoat407

It hasnt snowed here in about two weeks, I would figure the runways would be CLEARED?


76 posted on 02/02/2005 5:21:00 AM PST by Murphy63
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To: Miss Marple
CNN is reporting that the 12 onboard did NOT include the crew.

sw

77 posted on 02/02/2005 5:21:12 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (Enforce existing laws or change it))
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Images

Video

78 posted on 02/02/2005 5:21:59 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Murphy63

Ice on the wings can deprive them of lift, however.


79 posted on 02/02/2005 5:22:01 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (My tagline knows what you're thinking... you beast!)
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To: ken5050

There was fire earlier they said.
Plane also appears to be the standard short version.
Looking at the direction of the runway and the direction of the skid, he tried to steer left somewhat.
Once he hit the grass, it was a straight beeline across the grass road and into the building.


80 posted on 02/02/2005 5:22:31 AM PST by Darksheare (Trolls beware, the icy hands of the forum wraith are behind you!)
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