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Married, without children: Finding fulfillment with no kids
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 1/3/05 | Mark Wolf

Posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by qam1

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To: qam1

Amen to this article. Since my sister had children, in the eyes of the new grandparents my brother and I are pretty much dispensable with.

Further, they have no idea why my brother and I don't think the grandchildren are THE coolest things ever to hit the earth.


21 posted on 01/03/2005 8:43:18 AM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: Prime Choice
Let us hope the ME generation does not reproduce itself ...

Islam reproduces with high birth rates and conversion (forced or voluntary).

22 posted on 01/03/2005 8:43:28 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: qam1

As an unmarried (and consequently childless) woman, I can relate to this article. Being unmarried adds a whole other layer to the issue for me, but I must say that I get annoyed by reactions from both liberals and conservatives to my life circumstances. From liberals, I often get a knowing look of "oh, good for you to refuse to be oppressed by a man," when in fact I am a strong supporter of marriage (one man and one woman, of course) and would love to marry, have children, and be a stay-at-home mom. From conservatives, I sometimes get looks of pity or even disdain--the "you poor thing, your life means less" look. I don't want to be assumed to be a feminazi just because I'm currently single and without kids and therefore largely focused on my career, and I also don't want to be told that my value is basically on hold unless and until I have a "family of my own."


23 posted on 01/03/2005 8:43:32 AM PST by susiek
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To: Ellesu

Me, me, me, me!! Look at ME! Pay attention to ME!! Celebrate me!!

Sickening. My wife and I don't have kids and the reasons for that are personal. These people however, are children themselves.


24 posted on 01/03/2005 8:44:09 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Slyfox

What is worse is having children with the expectation that they are going to come visit you, and do not.

After working in a nursing home for a period of time, I would suggest that is in some ways more painful.

Also, there are a wide variety of reasons that married couples do not have children, and not all of them have to do with finances or responsibility issues.

Don't you agree that there are some people who you wish had thought a bit harder about whether they were suited to raising children or not?


25 posted on 01/03/2005 8:44:16 AM PST by rlmorel
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To: massgopguy

LOL...based on the kinds of things they said in the interview, you know they want your daughter (and my sons) to subsidize their retirement!

That being said, if someone is really selfish enough to think having kids is going to "ruin their life" well, then I am glad they aren't parents.


26 posted on 01/03/2005 8:44:37 AM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: econ_grad
Some people should not have children. My parents definitely shouldn't have, although I am glad to be alive.

That's very funny. Why shouldn't they have had children?
27 posted on 01/03/2005 8:44:46 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: TommyDale

I'm 36 and unmarried. That strikes me as a great reason not to have children.


28 posted on 01/03/2005 8:45:07 AM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: qam1
There's a term called DINKS. Double income, no kids.

I'd guess the demographic of this group is largely democrat voting.

29 posted on 01/03/2005 8:45:48 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: cyborg

You'll have to kidnap her husband and keep him in a donjon, then replace him with his evil twin, then...I'm sorry, I just ripped off Dynasty. My bad.


30 posted on 01/03/2005 8:46:05 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Prime Choice
"Whether or not I want to have kids is not the only consideration," said Wenker. "I believe there's a problem with population, serious issues with the environment, and I believe I have to be part of the solution."

..."I've thrown baby showers for girlfriends, and it's kind of this rite of passage," said Wenker. "We're going to buy you presents to get you started and treat you like Queen for a Day. It doesn't occur to anybody to celebrate a child-free woman in that way."

This Wenker sounds like a real wanker.

31 posted on 01/03/2005 8:46:51 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: Minuteman23
To those who are calling childless couple selfish, stop and think---isn't it more selfish to have children that you don't want?

These are the first people to remind you of what a tremendous sacrifice they have made.

32 posted on 01/03/2005 8:46:59 AM PST by countess
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To: qam1
The Eatons are part of a small but growing segment of American couples who have chosen not to have children.

If they're Catholic, their marriage is non-sacramental. It's even arguable whether this is a valid natural marriage.

33 posted on 01/03/2005 8:47:23 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: exnavychick
That being said, if someone is really selfish enough to think having kids is going to "ruin their life" well, then I am glad they aren't parents.

It is a natural expression of fear from ignorance.

I find it interesting to see the same people years later after they worked through their fears and found their lives enriched by giving life and love to their children.

34 posted on 01/03/2005 8:48:14 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: dubyaismypresident

"Then stop burdening the Earth with your existence" Anthem - Ayn Rand


35 posted on 01/03/2005 8:48:18 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy

LOL


36 posted on 01/03/2005 8:48:22 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: econ_grad
My parents definitely shouldn't have, although I am glad to be alive.

I'm glad you're alive. Most importantly, God is.

37 posted on 01/03/2005 8:49:08 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: af_vet_1981

That's true. I spoke a bit hastily, there.


38 posted on 01/03/2005 8:49:38 AM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: cyborg

"I've met women like that and they're big diesel feminists. No thanks."

The two couples I know best who have made this decision always vote conservative, although more for fiscal reasons. Neither woman fits the "feminist" stereotype, although I guess it's safe to say they do believe in equal pay for equal work.


39 posted on 01/03/2005 8:49:45 AM PST by Gone GF
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To: Raycpa; qam1; Ellesu
Self centered parents are not good for society.

That is complete and total crap. Some people just don't get the urge to procreate. Also, some people don't get married until late in life and the biological ticker goes into "expire."

People who have kids when they can't afford them and ask me to pay the tab, people who have kids on purpose to bring them up in one or zero parent housholds, people who have kids when they are too old (such as Tony Randall) -- these are selfish (sometimes to the point of downright evil) people.

And there is no evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that child-free couples vote liberal.

40 posted on 01/03/2005 8:49:56 AM PST by freedumb2003 (My DU name is Bunny Planet and I don't care who knows it! Everyone reveal yours!)
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