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Laser targets Airlines in Nashville
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Posted on 01/02/2005 7:16:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants

Just reported: An airline on approach to the Nashville airport has had it's cockpit targeted by a green laser. The plane was about 6 miles out and at 3000 feet when the incident occurred. The plane landed safely and no one was injured.

This makes SEVERAL reports of green lasers being targeted at commercial airlines in the past several days. Something really weird is going on and it is a concerted effort by several individual groups acting in concert or one very mobile unit.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airline; airlinesecurity; jet; laser; plane; terrorists
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To: OneTimeLurker; PistolPaknMama
I agree. Who sez it is being actively "pointed?" Set the thing up on a tripod and directed somewhere intersecting the typical glidepath for landing approach, and voila, you hit a cockpit avery once in a while....and you're not even there! What are there, like 10,000 commercial flights per day and we've seen 6-7 of these 'incidents?' (What is the stat....surely a freeper will inform!)
181 posted on 01/03/2005 6:17:03 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: AM2000

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Dec/30/br/br05p.html

Bright light near airport bothers pilot

By Mike Gordon
Advertiser Staff Writer

Somewhere on O'ahu today, a homeowner is rethinking the number of outdoor lights he turns on at night after the Federal Aviation Administration and Honolulu police told him they bothered a commercial airliner pilot making his approach to Honolulu International Airport. (snip)


182 posted on 01/03/2005 6:33:56 AM PST by EBH (Proud Aunt)
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To: Hunble
What practical use is there for a power Green Spectrum Laser?
183 posted on 01/03/2005 7:24:20 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (Because I fly, I envy no (wo)man on earth. - Anon)
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To: TomGuy

Right you are...the green lasers are the military variety. There have been approx. 52 incidents of this nature over the past 2 years. Additionally, the planes that have been targeted had been flying at an altitude of greater than 3000 feet. Lessens the chance of these incidents being harmless pranks or stupidity. Add to that scenario the fact that the laser directly hits the cockpit at the higher altitude, would insinuate that the tracker has some degree of sophistication...


184 posted on 01/03/2005 7:28:12 AM PST by milford421
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It's hard to be effective at stopping terrorists. It's too easy to cry wolf when nothing is really happening. I think that the cops in Jersey just should have told this guy he was an idiot and let it go. Sometimes a little intelligent policing goes a long way in preventing our authorities from looking overzealous and kind of dumb.

http://orsa.blogspot.com/2005/01/beavis-and-butthead-play-laser-tag.html


185 posted on 01/03/2005 8:03:04 AM PST by .cnI redruM (This country's heart will be giving in any disaster regardless of the recipient's response.)
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To: Dashing Dasher
What practical use is there for a power Green Spectrum Laser?

Amature astronomers love the green lasers, since the beam is highly visible. Often, in an effort to show someone where to look in the sky, simply pointing your finger does not work because of paralax. By using a green laser, they can easily follow the the green beam of light and locate the star or planet that you were trying to point at.

186 posted on 01/03/2005 8:11:13 AM PST by Hunble
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To: Aquinasfan
A target 6 miles out, 3000 feet up, and moving at 600 mph. You'd have to have a very steady hand to hit that target.

If the pilots doing 600mph at 3000 feet he might get arrested also(max. 250kt(288mph) below 10000)

187 posted on 01/03/2005 8:12:17 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: RckyRaCoCo
If the pilots doing 600mph at 3000 feet he might get arrested also(max. 250kt(288mph) below 10000)

OK, 600 mph, give or take several hundred mph ;-)

188 posted on 01/03/2005 8:26:23 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: FreedomCalls
I found it in the Edmund catalog. Here it is.

Cool! Thanks! Now to get the info to Homeland Security or something...

189 posted on 01/03/2005 8:44:21 AM PST by FreeKeys ("The battle is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave." Patrick Henry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I was thinking about picking-up one of the cheapies just to use in meetings at work (nobody else HAS a green one yet, so it would be cool!) but dare not now 'cause it'll probably put me on some homeland security "mailing list"...


190 posted on 01/03/2005 8:49:48 AM PST by solitas ('Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: FarRightTexasDude

Yep, I got green laser pointers for my son and grandson this Christmas. They love 'em... hope they don't get busted.


192 posted on 01/03/2005 9:29:02 AM PST by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: Hunble

I bought a 17mW green laser at an amateur astronomy show in NY last spring. You can buy them up to 30 mW - maybe even higher. Comes in very handy when I show my son and other kids planets, constellations, nebulae, etc. Though I'm a bit paranoid to be using it right now!


193 posted on 01/03/2005 9:39:50 AM PST by njbluepatriot
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To: FreeKeys

I put the wrong link in that post. Here's the correct link to the Edmund Optics retro reflector page:

http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/Browse.cfm?categoryid=72


194 posted on 01/03/2005 9:51:21 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Max in Utah
Yep, I got green laser pointers for my son and grandson this Christmas. They love 'em... hope they don't get busted.

Warn them about pointing them at aircraft. Some children (and adults) aren't aware that it could cause a problem.

195 posted on 01/03/2005 9:52:49 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ProudVet77

I don' think any pilots have been blinded (no retinal burning)- they are reporting seeing a bright green light, causing afterimages and temporary night vision problems (bad enough when trying to fly). You are correct, the power density over the area of the pupil is low for a 100mw laser. A 10W laser gets close to dangerous at that distance.

One safety factor with a visible laser is how much energy can you get into an eye before the eye reflexively blinks. A near-infrared laser, say 850 nm, is more dangerous than a red (633) or green (532) because you won't blink until lots of power gets in.

Even if the visible beam is spread out, it will look like a very bright light if you look into the beam. But, the spread out beam is easier to aim.

Beam divergence: There are two mechanisms that spread a beam. Up close, the beam spreads based on the optics used in the laser. In this distance, meters to hundreds of meters, the beam spreads at perhaps a milliradian or so, a very tight beam that makes lasers so useful.

There is a range at which the wave properties of light itself causes the beam to diverge, the wave wants to become spherical and the wave properties push the photons to the side. After this distance the beam spreads rapidly. This depends on the wavelength of the light and the beam diameter.

If you want to propagate a beam over a considerable distance, you first expand the beam then collimate it. A 1mm beam spreads much more than a 1cm beam does.


196 posted on 01/03/2005 9:59:09 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Hunble

Thank you, I did not know that.


197 posted on 01/03/2005 10:05:24 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (Because I fly, I envy no (wo)man on earth. - Anon)
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To: AmishDude

Or "Alan Parsons"...


198 posted on 01/03/2005 10:09:48 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: DBrow

Thank you. The little knowledge I had of lasers was the coffee table science book variety. This site is so cool that we can educate as well as entertain.


199 posted on 01/03/2005 10:30:59 AM PST by ProudVet77 (The silly hour has begun.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Alternatively, it could be evidence of widespread suggestibility, especially given that the only evidence is the aircrews' recollections

I was called all sorts of names for suggesting this the other day.

200 posted on 01/03/2005 10:51:42 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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