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Banning Guns Isn't Enough for the Brits
Armed Females of America - Pro-Gun Women on Full Auto ^ | Nicki Fellenzer

Posted on 01/01/2005 1:43:36 PM PST by TERMINATTOR

It appears the Brits have climbed the Cliffs of Insanity and taken a collective nosedive into the River of Outright Absurdity. My friend, author Michael Z. Williamson, and I used to laugh about Britain, their unreasonable ban on armed self defense and their hysterical attempts to further correct the problems caused by said ban by implementing yet more stringent and bizarre restraints on people's rights. Mike was born in the UK. I used to kid him about the future of Great Britain. I used to tell him that soon, sharp implements will be banned, and people will be forced to purchase pre-cut food rather than risk the chance of some unstable chef losing control and hacking some unsuspecting Brits to pieces with a knife. These were jokes. I didn't really think it would ever happen.

I was wrong.

The UK's home secretary David Blunkett has announced a slew of measures that are meant to address the rising knife violence in not-so-Great Britain. Yeah - right on the heels of their wildly "successful" gun ban (pay no attention to the fact that there's a gun crime happening every hour in the UK), Mr. Blunkett has announced that shops will be banned from selling knives to people under 18 years of age, and that he would like to see a stiff, five-year jail sentence on any poor bloke caught in possession of a knife. God forbid a 16 year old decides he wants to cook sliced turkey for dinner! He'll be out of luck in Blunkett's Britain. Sorry, chum. You're going to have to rip the meat into chunks with your hands.

Why is this happening? Well you see, guns are, for the most part, banned. And even though gun crime in Britain has risen dramatically since the 1997 ban on self defense, so have other types of violent crimes, including knifings. As a matter of fact, a spate of recent stabbings has prompted the families of the victims to demand justice in the form of stiffer penalties for mere possession of these horrid sharp objects. Because believe it or not, knives are so prevalent in Merrie Olde England, that every two weeks, "someone loses their life as a result of being stabbed."

Apparently it's not enough that victims are prohibited from defending themselves, get punished for mere ownership of a firearm or a similar method of defense, such as a stun gun. Now, they won't even be able to purchase a kitchen implement of their choice without some emotionalist hack screeching that they're a danger to society and must be imprisoned for wanting to hack apart a side of beef for dinner.

What is going on over there?

Well, crime is out of control, and the government - instead of using logic and common sense to deal with criminals - is bowing to the reactionary histrionics of emotionally overwrought victims families and attempting to ban the offending object rather than address the source of the problem - the criminals. But if you're thinking that their extremist reaction to crime comes from genuine goodness and authentic attempts to lower crime in Britain, you might want to think again.

In a recent report, England's top lawyer - Attorney-General Lord Goldsmith - was quoted as saying that criminal's rights need to be protected as well as victims. (emphasis added) Apparently, the esteemed legislator believes that everyone has the right to live their lives free of violence - even those who make violence their life's choice! Who cares if victims of criminals spend time in jail for daring to protect their homes and their families! Apparently in Goldsmith's eyes, the lives of those who choose to violently victimize others...

...to stab, shoot, rape and assault them...

...are worth just as much as the victims. Therefore, it's apparently advisable, in Goldsmith's eyes, for a woman to simply spread her legs and wait for her rapist to finish rather than fight back, because - God forbid! - her attacker's right to rape and sodomize her in a safe environment could be compromised!

No, it's not fallible, human overreaction that is causing the Brits to attempt to control and outright ban every implement that may be used to cause harm. I'm convinced that their society has become so impossibly savage, that they can no longer tell the difference between right and wrong, justice and injustice, victim and criminal. Their warped sense of socialism tells them that we're all the same - that our lives are all equal - regardless of the choices we make or the lives we lead. That's why in their twisted world, it's important to protect the rights of violent thugs and disarm the righteous victims. That's why they think so little of life, liberty and property - because those concepts can only truly exist in a just society - a justice that the UK has lost.

They are beyond help. We can no longer ask the question, "How can we help them? How can we make them see?" The question we should be asking ourselves is, "How can we ensure that we do not become like them?" My answer is this: only by safeguarding the sacred concepts of life, liberty and property can we ensure that our sense of justice never becomes skewed by the savages in three-piece suits and jack boots who claim authority over us. Only by never giving up an iota - by fighting until our knuckles are bloodied - by never allowing ourselves or our leaders to forget those sacred principles, can we hope to preserve them. Only by fighting against the incremental destruction of our basic rights, can we hope to avoid becoming another Britain.

Because once a society forgets justice...

As soon as government leaders mar the line between right and wrong...

The path will be clear for them to enslave the sheep who have allowed them to do so.


Nicki is a US Army veteran, who spent nearly four years in Frankfurt, Germany on active duty at the American Forces Network. She is a former radio DJ and news anchor and a Featured Writer and Newslinks Director for Keepandbeararms.com. She is also a former contributing editor to the National Rifle Association's newest monthly magazine, Women's Outlook and she is currently the contributing editor to Concealed Carry Magazine and writes occasionally for the Libertarian Party. She resides in Virginia with her family. We are also proud to have Nicki as regular contributor to Armed Females of America and to speak for Armed Females on our position against gun control and freedom issues.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assault; bang; banglist; banoffendingobject; collectivenosedive; commonsense; greatbritain; jackboots; logic; rape; selfdefense; sheeple; shoot; stab; women
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To: kingu

"Our libs won't go -- it appears that their superior status doesn't allow them an exemption from the firearms laws, therefore it is off the list of places to flee to."

I guess we're down to Canada and good ole Paris.


41 posted on 01/01/2005 3:09:49 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Let's see; they banned guns and gun violence went up...

Now if they ban knives (and other sharp instruments), I guess knife violence will go ...?? (help! I'm a liberal and I can't figure it out...)

BTW, I'm not really a liberal (in case anyone couldn't figure that out...)
42 posted on 01/01/2005 3:19:10 PM PST by Death and Taxes
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To: Ronzo; TERMINATTOR; shaggy eel; Byron_the_Aussie

<< Next thing you know, they'll be banning these VERY DANGEROUS weapons ... >>

[Slim, trim, taut and terrific] Aussie Cricketers?

BUMPping


43 posted on 01/01/2005 3:21:55 PM PST by Brian Allen (For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord -- Luke 2:11)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Brits do not have our Constitution....
Our worst enemies are our own leaders, politicians,public servants,educators,media stars, and activist judges who hate the America of our founders....and most especially being in the employ of 'we the people'

imo


44 posted on 01/01/2005 3:23:29 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy

Our rights are God given. Even in the absence of our Constitition and BOR, we would still have them. Brits have inalienable rights too. Shocking, but true!


45 posted on 01/01/2005 3:29:31 PM PST by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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To: TERMINATTOR

What they actually want is for only government officials to have access to weapons or authorization to use them. It is all part of the Fabian Socialist scheme to transfer all power to government.


46 posted on 01/01/2005 3:44:17 PM PST by OK
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To: TERMINATTOR

BTTT


48 posted on 01/01/2005 3:46:25 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: YOUGOTIT
Re your post 30: I won't touch foot on U.K. soil again on a dare. I guess I'm just too chicken.

Neither do I go to states here that prohibit my carrying a gun. Same reason.

49 posted on 01/01/2005 3:46:31 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: TERMINATTOR

Yet if he should give up what he has begun, and agree to make us or our kingdom subject to the King of England or the English, we should exert ourselves at once to drive him out as our enemy and a subverter of his own rights and ours, and make some other man who was well able to defend us our King; for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
Declaration of Arboarth
BUAIDH NO BAS


50 posted on 01/01/2005 3:47:08 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: TERMINATTOR

We have this sort of nonsense in our public schools regarding "weapons." It's called zero tolerance. Kids can be expelled for bringing in a plastic picnic knife from home -- or drawing a picture of a gun (guns don't belong in school doncha know). Or pretending the grape juice brought in the cafeteria is a fine red wine. Or being caught with asprin or Midol -- a serious drug crime.


51 posted on 01/01/2005 3:49:27 PM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"What if someone attacks you with a pointed stick?"

Just pull the lever and the 16-ton weight will fall on top of him.

Mark

52 posted on 01/01/2005 3:50:58 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: TERMINATTOR

BTTT


53 posted on 01/01/2005 3:51:36 PM PST by spodefly (This message packaged with desiccant. Do not open until ready for use or inspection.)
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To: Lutonian

This concerns the american warning about my country (Great Britain) being taken over by the muslim minority of the population.

As a non-muslim british citizen I have taken the warning seriously and after analysing the situation in great detail I have devised a plan that should keep me safe.

It is primarily based upon the mad assumption that one muslim man does not have the strength of 50 non-muslim men. Also I maddly assume that many young british muslim men just want jobs and families and quite like democracy like everyone else.


55 posted on 01/01/2005 7:14:37 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: TERMINATTOR
Apparently in Goldsmith's eyes, the lives of those who choose to violently victimize others...to stab, shoot, rape and assault them...are worth just as much as the victims.

The very essence of Socialism. Everyone is equal, so all standards are reduced to the absolute lowest common denominator. The life of all citizens is worth no more than that of the most vicious criminal among them.

"Every form of government destroys itself by carrying to extreme its basic purpose for existence." (Plat0, 400 BC).

56 posted on 01/01/2005 9:36:28 PM PST by fire_eye (Leftists all look the same through an ACOG.)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Great Britain = Criminal heaven.


57 posted on 01/01/2005 9:40:21 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TERMINATTOR
Therefore, it's apparently advisable, in Goldsmith's eyes, for a woman to simply spread her legs and wait for her rapist to finish rather than fight back, because - God forbid! - her attacker's right to rape and sodomize her in a safe environment could be compromised!

Uh, oh. You may have planted the seeds of the next attempt by the social engineers to address the problem of a crime by banning possession of the weapon of choice used to commit it. The weapon of choice in the commission of rape is, is, ummmm, well... So will possession of "that" be outlawed next in the hopes of reducing the incidence of rape? Oh, nooooo...

Not trying to trivialize the violent crime of rape. Just showing that banning possession of "things" to solve a problem of crime leads to somewhat absurd (and undesirable) consequences.

59 posted on 01/02/2005 7:12:43 AM PST by chimera
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To: TERMINATTOR
The idea that banning knives, guns etc. will really disarm the criminals is so preposterous that I don't think the banners really think it will either.

That brings up the question of what are they doing?

They know that improvised weapons can be made easily, such as a screwdriver can be sharpened to make a perfect dagger, (for that matter it would do pretty well unsharpened).

I think the answer is they want to disarm the great majority of the population and since total disarmament is impossible, they want to keep the most effective weapons out of the hands of the peasants and serfs.

The Russian revolution scared the crap out of the British muckety mucks. That is why they passed the 1919 gun control law. I greatly admire Winston Churchill but he was in on it too, and for the same reason. BTW Churchill loved guns and shooting so he probably never would have gone to the extremes we see today in Britain.

It is as simple as this. The whole idea of weapons control is to keep those who are in power, in power.

60 posted on 01/02/2005 11:21:03 AM PST by yarddog
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