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Science Is Eating His Dust (Adventurer exploring Chachapoya civilization of Peru)
LA Times via Yahoo News ^ | Dec. 7, 2004 | Thomas H. Maugh

Posted on 12/08/2004 10:31:09 PM PST by FairOpinion

Gene Savoy plunged into the Peruvian jungle half a century ago in search of the fabled El Dorado, a lost Incan city so wealthy that its king reputedly walked coated in gold dust.

Now semiretired, Savoy never found El Dorado. But along the way, he became the world's foremost chronicler of a forgotten civilization known as the Chachapoya — and a blight to traditional archeologists.

Savoy, 79, is among the last of a dying breed — the swashbuckling adventurer whose expeditions plow through the world's rain forests in search of lost history.

The tension between Savoy and the archeological establishment has unfolded in one of the most forbidding places in the world — a spot in northern Peru known as Ceja de Selva — the Eyebrow of the Jungle.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: archaeology; archeology; chachapoya; civilizations; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; peru
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Excerpted, because it's originally from the LA Times, but it's at Yahoo news now, so you don't need to log in.

Interesting -- we need people like Savoy, to go and explore, as we need archeologists who spend more time at each discovery.

1 posted on 12/08/2004 10:31:10 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG PING

Veteran American explorer Gene Savoy stands beside his mule during an expedition to Peru's northern highland jungle in June 1985 during which he discovered Gran Vilaya, the capital of the mysterious Chachapoyas Indian kingdom. (AP Photo/)

2 posted on 12/08/2004 10:32:38 PM PST by FairOpinion
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"He has probably seen more Chachapoya architecture than any man alive, discovering, by his own account, more than 40 ancient cities. The Peruvian government gave him a medal, the Order of the Gran Pajaten, for bringing attention to a region once thought archeologically barren. "


3 posted on 12/08/2004 10:36:18 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: blam

Special early preview for you, before the GGG Ping.

I think it's quite interesting.


4 posted on 12/08/2004 10:38:51 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Oh, yeah, "Archaeological Establishment" - fatass pot-gutted tweed-cap-wearing snotty professors who made one trip to Mexico for their postdoc and then got a comfy job in a liberal-arts institution, married a student, and haven't budged since.


5 posted on 12/08/2004 10:47:40 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: fire_eye

Hey, boy, you really nailed that one, didn't you?

Ca....


6 posted on 12/08/2004 10:54:18 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: fire_eye

I wish you wouldn't beat around the bush. Just come out with what you think.


7 posted on 12/09/2004 12:26:40 AM PST by carumba
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To: FairOpinion

Interesting site on the Chachapoya people in Peru with lots of photographs, ruins etc:

http://www.kuelap.org/


8 posted on 12/09/2004 1:31:45 AM PST by Fred Nerks (understand evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD on pdf. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: FairOpinion

bttt


9 posted on 12/09/2004 2:31:47 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: FairOpinion

Later


10 posted on 12/09/2004 4:17:56 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: FairOpinion
"I think it's quite interesting."

Thanks, I agree. Here's a link to a previous article with more detail.

Pre-Incan Ruins Emerging From Peru's Cloud Forests (Chachapoyas)

11 posted on 12/09/2004 6:49:30 AM PST by blam
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Thanks, FairO'.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

12 posted on 12/09/2004 7:12:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: FairOpinion

Very interesting... being a college student, this gives me yet ANOTHER idea of what to do with my life... lol.


13 posted on 12/09/2004 11:08:21 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: FairOpinion

BTTT


14 posted on 12/09/2004 11:09:43 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: SunkenCiv; FairOpinion; blam
From the article: The better-known Maya and Incas recognized them[chacha's] as tall, light-skinned, preternaturally fierce warriors.

Ok, someone has an idea where these people came from? Are these Ainu(sp) maybe......possibly?

FGS

15 posted on 12/09/2004 9:08:41 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
"Ok, someone has an idea where these people came from? Are these Ainu(sp) maybe......possibly?"

Yup, either that or the exiled/stranded miners of King Solomon.

16 posted on 12/09/2004 9:33:11 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
...either that or the exiled/stranded miners of King Solomon.

Intriguing notion. We don't really know how long the Chacha's were around South America do we? Nobody knows where the Chachapoya came from, but starting about 1,300 years ago, they began to spread...

Their history would have to go back about another eight hundred years(+/-) to have been contemporaries of Solomon? Seems a stretch, but since we're only speculating anyway...

FGS

17 posted on 12/09/2004 10:07:48 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: FairOpinion

"I think it's quite interesting."

I don't.


18 posted on 12/09/2004 10:13:02 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic changes have consequences.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Whoops! Make that: Their history would have to go back about 1800 years(+/-). Seems Solomon was around about a thousand years BCE(BCE did replace BC did it not?).

FGS

19 posted on 12/09/2004 10:13:19 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Baraonda
Are you trying to start something?

FGS

20 posted on 12/09/2004 10:19:50 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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