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To: bikepacker67

Because the vast majority of parents aren't qualified to teach to their children and schools teach other skills beside the academic ones...

In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills... Not in all cases, but in the majority...

It doesn't say that all schools are "ideal", they aren't... But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses...


13 posted on 11/12/2004 6:47:44 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Pitiricus

That is one of the biggest loads of bs I have seen on FR yet..but thanks for the fertilizer...


16 posted on 11/12/2004 6:48:54 AM PST by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Have you thanked a Swiftie today for the election results???)
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To: Pitiricus
In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills... Not in all cases, but in the majority...

The exact opposite is true. Learn what you are talking about before opening your mouth.

17 posted on 11/12/2004 6:49:03 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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You do know that homeschooling is regulated, right? There are standardized tests, approved curriculums and so on.
18 posted on 11/12/2004 6:50:08 AM PST by newzjunkey (San Diego, Kleptocrasy by the Sea. -- VOID the Illegal Mayoral "Election")
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To: Pitiricus
In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills...

I think you are completely wrong.

20 posted on 11/12/2004 6:51:24 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Pitiricus
Yeah, but in many cases, parents who are qualified (former teachers, for example) teach more than their own children. These families form home-school co-ops in which they combine students from several families, somtimes with several teachers and even extracurricular activities. I know a guy who used to teach theater to fairly large groups of home-school kids. What these people do (the ones I am talking about) is tantamount to starting their own provate school.

However, I also know some people who were going to home-school their kids, but they don't. The 2 kids just stay home with their mom, basically being truants, learning nothing.

23 posted on 11/12/2004 6:53:01 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Pitiricus

I recently attended a national convention on home schooling, and the key note speaker shared a study on home schooling indicating that race, parent's level of education and financial status were not indicators of success for homeschooling families... unlike public school. The same study also found no benefit to increased state regulation on homeschooling.

Homeschoolers still do 2% better on standardized testing on average. They also fare better in many other measures of success.

My homeschooled daughter missed her debate team meeting last night, to play a game with her nationally competitive basketball team. She has a math competition this weekend with another good friend of hers. There are support groups that combine together to teach advanced highschool courses that cannot be obtained by working with local junior colleges.

The "Facts", contradict your assertions.

Craig


29 posted on 11/12/2004 6:56:25 AM PST by csivils
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To: Pitiricus
"But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses..."

I agree. Parents do not subscribe to the brain-washing of the left and hence, are not qualified or to be trusted to conduct it on their own children.

30 posted on 11/12/2004 6:57:49 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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Boy! You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about!


31 posted on 11/12/2004 6:58:07 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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badly-educated person, without social skills

My young home-schooled children could identify you as ignorant and rude. Make you feel better?

39 posted on 11/12/2004 7:05:05 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Iowa - at home in the red.)
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Because the vast majority of parents Government employees aren't qualified to teach to their children and schools teach other skills leftist and commie ideals beside the academic ones...

I edited it for clarity.

In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills... Not in all cases, but in the majority...

A lie, I know many, they are ALL smarter and more well adjusted that those indoctrinated in government "schools". AND their parents didn't murder them in the uterus, like you murdered your "clump".

It doesn't say that all schools are "ideal", they aren't... But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses...

Ignorance of how a "home school", really an alternate school, operates is no excuse for giving false information in order to advance your DU agenda.

42 posted on 11/12/2004 7:06:47 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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So you think that unless a parent has graduated from college with a teaching degree that they are not qualified to teach their own child?

The schools don't even have a certified teacher for every classroom. Ever heard of a teacher's manual?


44 posted on 11/12/2004 7:08:14 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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your misinformation about home-schoolers is staggering...
The Capt.


46 posted on 11/12/2004 7:09:21 AM PST by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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Because the vast majority of parents aren't qualified to teach to their children and schools teach other skills beside the academic ones...

Reference this claim, please. Then list "other skills" that schools teach, and while you're at it, make sure to include bullying, rebellion, swearing, sexual activity, introduction to drugs...

In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills... Not in all cases, but in the majority...

Again, back up the statement with some references. There are so many things available to homeschool kids regarding socialization (oh and yeah, the public school kind is SO missed, as listed above) that your claim is absolutely laughable on its face.

It doesn't say that all schools are "ideal", they aren't... But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses...

The average parent does just fine well into high school - we're not talking rocket science.

But if and when we are, there are tons of options available to the parent, such as certified correspondence courses via internet or DVD programs with realtime support contacts, and homeschool courses outside the home - in my area there's a part-time school specificially for homeschoolers to suppliment their time at home with certified instructors covering a variety of subjects.

And no doubt you'll have a real hard time with this one, but usually by high school, homeschoolers actually have advanced to the point where they are ready for - GASP - college courses! Yes really! And get this - many colleges these days actually WELCOME homeschooled kids to take advanced math courses, science courses, labs and other college prep or college level courses.

Again, back up your claims, please. And while you're at it, check out this statistical study. And here's another one for you too.

52 posted on 11/12/2004 7:15:18 AM PST by agrace (Thank you veterans!)
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Tell it to the parents at Columbine High.

Perhaps you could back your beliefs with some data.


54 posted on 11/12/2004 7:16:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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I have seen the product of our "professional schools," the texts that these professional schools teach from, and the undereducated boobs that our teaching schools produce in large numbers.

I would take my chances on teaching my kids myself if they were young enough. The only real regret I have about raising my boys (ages 29 and 27 now) is that I did not send them to Catholic School and left them to the devices of public school. Taught them all about left wing wacko ideas and da$* little about reading, writing and mathematics.

56 posted on 11/12/2004 7:17:16 AM PST by Dogrobber
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Both of my sister in-laws (my husbands sister and my brothers wife) are teachers. One has her masters degree. I wouldn't these women watch my plants while I was on vacation let alone trust them to teach my children.

Some bits of wisdom from each of them:

-on a tour of Custer State Park in South Dakota, one wanted to pet the buffalo because, "they are used to people".

-one thought surfing was something "only people on TV and the movies do!" She was surprised when my father in-law saw actual people not actors surfing.

-we have a large Mexican population in our area. SIL A was going to the store and saw tons of "red, green, and white flags". She said, "I think it was an Italian Day parade!" Mexican flag, Italian flag- they are noticeably different and as a teacher wouldn't you expect her to know the difference?

-SIL B was shocked to find out that star fish and sea horses are not fictional characters they actually are real creatures.

-SIL A wasn't sure she would like the bread machine she got as a Christmas gift, because in her words, "How do I know I will like the bread it makes?" she thought you just pushed the button and like magic bread comes out.

These are just a sampling, I could go on and on. They both teach elementary age kids. If these two teach children, ANYONE on FR can do it!!
58 posted on 11/12/2004 7:19:04 AM PST by retrokitten (Hell yeah!)
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In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills... Not in all cases, but in the majority...

Do you actually KNOW any homeschooled children?

65 posted on 11/12/2004 7:32:00 AM PST by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we are Americans!!!!)
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Good morning.

If the "vast majority of parents" are not qualified to teach then why do so many homeschooled kids do so well in SATs.
You are flatly wrong in your statements. Homeschooled kids do better as a rule in all areas of academia than the victims of the public school establishment and they don't have to suffer under PC.
Are you part of that establishment? Teacher? Administrator? Upon what do you base your statements?

Michael Frazier
75 posted on 11/12/2004 7:42:21 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender no retreat, Well, maybe retreat's ok.)
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But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses...

When most homeschooled kids get to the high school courses, parents look for tutors, or the kids attend Community Colleges for the courses for which parents don't think themselves qualified. Our daughter, a homeschooled Junior, will attend a local CC in the Spring semester, taking Chemistry. After that, she plans to take Physics, Pre-Calculus, Calculus, and a couple of other courses. When she graduates from high school, she'll have a full year of college credits. She's doing this instead of spending the time taking an AP course, but the end is the same.

Folks just don't give parents enough credit for figuring out how to provide their kids with what they need for their learning. At this point, I am not my daughter's teacher; she's doing all that on her own, including having taught herself Japanese. It is my job to provide the resources and be here for discussions as needed.

77 posted on 11/12/2004 7:43:14 AM PST by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we are Americans!!!!)
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LOL- the FACTS dont back you up- the majority of home-schooled children are doing much better than commie-liberal-mind-control factories called 'schools'


82 posted on 11/12/2004 7:44:53 AM PST by Mr. K
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