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Another student victim of Liberal schooling
television news | 11/12/04 | sunnyside

Posted on 11/12/2004 6:39:25 AM PST by SunnySide

Heard this on the t.v. news while on the net. So I don't have a link, source or tv station (Sorry Mr. Mod)


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To: Sans-Culotte

So homeschoolers should have no freedom to join together and share their talents? Gee!

Nearly every state requires testing of some sort yearly so the kids who are loafing with their moms don't get that luxury for very long. That's basically the same as repeating the mantra that homosexuals are a majority. Not!

Almost every homeschool graduate I know has received a scholarship to college.


41 posted on 11/12/2004 7:06:19 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Pitiricus
Because the vast majority of parents Government employees aren't qualified to teach to their children and schools teach other skills leftist and commie ideals beside the academic ones...

I edited it for clarity.

In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills... Not in all cases, but in the majority...

A lie, I know many, they are ALL smarter and more well adjusted that those indoctrinated in government "schools". AND their parents didn't murder them in the uterus, like you murdered your "clump".

It doesn't say that all schools are "ideal", they aren't... But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses...

Ignorance of how a "home school", really an alternate school, operates is no excuse for giving false information in order to advance your DU agenda.

42 posted on 11/12/2004 7:06:47 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: SunnySide

Already posted here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1278044/posts


43 posted on 11/12/2004 7:08:11 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: Pitiricus

So you think that unless a parent has graduated from college with a teaching degree that they are not qualified to teach their own child?

The schools don't even have a certified teacher for every classroom. Ever heard of a teacher's manual?


44 posted on 11/12/2004 7:08:14 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Pitiricus

And I have seen enough home-school successes to say you are incorrect. I will agree, not every parent can teach...But most of my college instructors (including PhDs) couldn't teach either.


45 posted on 11/12/2004 7:08:57 AM PST by opus86 ("I think those are things that people who think about those things are thinking about...")
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To: Pitiricus

your misinformation about home-schoolers is staggering...
The Capt.


46 posted on 11/12/2004 7:09:21 AM PST by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: Nightshift

ping


47 posted on 11/12/2004 7:09:57 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Pitiricus
As a college professor,

That explains much.

But the correct wording is:

As a leftist college professor and admitted perpetrator of infanticide........

48 posted on 11/12/2004 7:10:03 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Husker24

"What exactly was their reasoning for suspending her for doing a cartwheel?"

(sarcastic gasp) Their reason was, endangering herself and others. I guess today kids are suppose go out for recess and sit there like lumps of blubber. Too weird



49 posted on 11/12/2004 7:10:43 AM PST by SunnySide
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To: Phantom Lord

You hit the nail on the head. I tried for a position teaching computers at a local tech-college and was turned down. I didn't have the correct "certification". The fact that I make a living using my skills didn't count. Their comments were..."You may know about computers but that doesn't mean that you have the ability to teach". Well, computer training is exactly what I do. People actually pay me to do one-on-one training. I don't need a piece of paper to determine that I'm qualified.

Educators are the most snobbish bunch of people that I've ever met.


50 posted on 11/12/2004 7:12:22 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Pitiricus

Check out this story. There is a quote from a school psychologist who claims the opposite:

http://hslda.org/docs/link.asp?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewhsv%2Ecom%2Fnews%2Fheadlines%2F1177556%2Ehtml


51 posted on 11/12/2004 7:13:59 AM PST by ladylib (MSM is now The Old Media)
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To: Pitiricus
Because the vast majority of parents aren't qualified to teach to their children and schools teach other skills beside the academic ones...

Reference this claim, please. Then list "other skills" that schools teach, and while you're at it, make sure to include bullying, rebellion, swearing, sexual activity, introduction to drugs...

In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills... Not in all cases, but in the majority...

Again, back up the statement with some references. There are so many things available to homeschool kids regarding socialization (oh and yeah, the public school kind is SO missed, as listed above) that your claim is absolutely laughable on its face.

It doesn't say that all schools are "ideal", they aren't... But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses...

The average parent does just fine well into high school - we're not talking rocket science.

But if and when we are, there are tons of options available to the parent, such as certified correspondence courses via internet or DVD programs with realtime support contacts, and homeschool courses outside the home - in my area there's a part-time school specificially for homeschoolers to suppliment their time at home with certified instructors covering a variety of subjects.

And no doubt you'll have a real hard time with this one, but usually by high school, homeschoolers actually have advanced to the point where they are ready for - GASP - college courses! Yes really! And get this - many colleges these days actually WELCOME homeschooled kids to take advanced math courses, science courses, labs and other college prep or college level courses.

Again, back up your claims, please. And while you're at it, check out this statistical study. And here's another one for you too.

52 posted on 11/12/2004 7:15:18 AM PST by agrace (Thank you veterans!)
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To: Pitiricus

Pitiricus,

Let's get specific -you are generalizing...

Which subjects do you base your opinion on?


53 posted on 11/12/2004 7:16:16 AM PST by DBeers
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To: Pitiricus

Tell it to the parents at Columbine High.

Perhaps you could back your beliefs with some data.


54 posted on 11/12/2004 7:16:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Pitiricus
Skills that should have been acquired a long time ago are lacking.

Name a few...

55 posted on 11/12/2004 7:16:35 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Pitiricus
I have seen the product of our "professional schools," the texts that these professional schools teach from, and the undereducated boobs that our teaching schools produce in large numbers.

I would take my chances on teaching my kids myself if they were young enough. The only real regret I have about raising my boys (ages 29 and 27 now) is that I did not send them to Catholic School and left them to the devices of public school. Taught them all about left wing wacko ideas and da$* little about reading, writing and mathematics.

56 posted on 11/12/2004 7:17:16 AM PST by Dogrobber
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To: bikepacker67

Forget it. Pit is just parrotting back what he/she has heard from the TV


57 posted on 11/12/2004 7:17:44 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Pitiricus
Both of my sister in-laws (my husbands sister and my brothers wife) are teachers. One has her masters degree. I wouldn't these women watch my plants while I was on vacation let alone trust them to teach my children.

Some bits of wisdom from each of them:

-on a tour of Custer State Park in South Dakota, one wanted to pet the buffalo because, "they are used to people".

-one thought surfing was something "only people on TV and the movies do!" She was surprised when my father in-law saw actual people not actors surfing.

-we have a large Mexican population in our area. SIL A was going to the store and saw tons of "red, green, and white flags". She said, "I think it was an Italian Day parade!" Mexican flag, Italian flag- they are noticeably different and as a teacher wouldn't you expect her to know the difference?

-SIL B was shocked to find out that star fish and sea horses are not fictional characters they actually are real creatures.

-SIL A wasn't sure she would like the bread machine she got as a Christmas gift, because in her words, "How do I know I will like the bread it makes?" she thought you just pushed the button and like magic bread comes out.

These are just a sampling, I could go on and on. They both teach elementary age kids. If these two teach children, ANYONE on FR can do it!!
58 posted on 11/12/2004 7:19:04 AM PST by retrokitten (Hell yeah!)
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To: DBeers
Let's get specific -you are generalizing...

Bingo. Hasn't specified a single thing in many posts.

59 posted on 11/12/2004 7:20:40 AM PST by agrace (Thank you veterans!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
I am an attorney and have a Juris Doctor (Doctorate of Law). I don't have a PHD (Doctorate in Philosophy). I also have a undergraduate in Criminal Justice and have real life experience as a police officer, a prosecuting attorney, a state's attorney in civil court and a municipal judge.

I am "not qualified" to teach courses on the law to criminology students in college.

Go figure.

60 posted on 11/12/2004 7:24:47 AM PST by Dogrobber
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