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Whither Wisconsin? (I Don't Understand)
Nov 3, 2004

Posted on 11/03/2004 2:04:33 PM PST by publius1

It looks like the President and Kerry are about 11,000 votes apart, 1,477,122 (49.4%) to 1,488,935 (49.8%), with 100% reporting. That's 11,000 out of nearly 3 million. Why is this state given to Kerry?


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To: publius1

This state is a g*d-d*mn discrace. The state is very pro-bush and pro America with the exception of the Peoples Republic of Madison and the third world nation of Milwaukee.


21 posted on 11/03/2004 2:11:23 PM PST by newcthem
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To: publius1

If you look at the Upper Midwest States Kerry won, Bush's percentage in all three was 48%. A very good showing considering the fact Kerry once ran double digit numbers in them. That's plenty of encouragement for future elections.


22 posted on 11/03/2004 2:11:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: publius1
Er, I mean, the lack of provisional ballots. Anyway, I think I heard IA is not yet projected because of the number of provisional ballots outstanding. Perhaps there is no such problem in WI.
23 posted on 11/03/2004 2:12:23 PM PST by newgeezer (Democrats will cheat, steal, lie, do ANYTHING to win, because their noble goals justify every means.)
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To: newgeezer

Of course, that's it. All the states Bush is ahead in have provisional ballots that must be counted. Go figure.


24 posted on 11/03/2004 2:13:56 PM PST by Raven281
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To: goldstategop

The National county map tells the real numbers!


25 posted on 11/03/2004 2:14:23 PM PST by Trainfish
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To: publius1

I'm rather interested in the number of military ballots that are out there, uncounted. Believe me, I've been on my knees, thanking God that President Bush is re-elected... but it's personally disgusting to see my state go for Kerry. I really wish Madison, Milwaukee, etc., could surgicall remove themselves, and plant their liberal behinds somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean...


26 posted on 11/03/2004 2:15:09 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: publius1
Voter fraud in Milwaukee was rampant, but because this election is over, it will go unchecked. Kerry will win simply because his numbers here are higher, not because more people actually voted for him.

I believe Tommy Thompson will be the first to leave the Bush administration, however, and his return to the state bodes well for the future.
27 posted on 11/03/2004 2:16:07 PM PST by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: publius1
Why is this state given to Kerry?

So he can call Lambert Field his new home!

28 posted on 11/03/2004 2:16:50 PM PST by NewLand (Pajama Patriot on patrol at Free Republic since the 20th Century!)
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To: July 4th

Would it be out of line for me to dream of Tommy Thompson as the replacement Senator for Herb "Nobody's senator but the abortion industry's" Kohl...? :)


29 posted on 11/03/2004 2:17:45 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: publius1

as I said earlier...w/o 'rat fraud in Milwaukee and Philly, W handily wins WI and PA.


30 posted on 11/03/2004 2:18:40 PM PST by blteague
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To: don'tbedenied

It does matter, because reporters like Wendell Goler are out there spouting off about how Bush once again one with "the slimmest of margins", being only four points over the necessary 270 EV's to win (Wendell apparently forgot that New Mexico and Iowa are in the union, and that both together put Bush SIXTEEN points over, not just four). The more EV's we've got in our column over 270, the less reporters can claim that the President doesn't have a mandate, or that he only squeaked by, etc.


31 posted on 11/03/2004 2:19:55 PM PST by Optimus Prime (Do liberals even qualify as sentient beings?)
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To: publius1

Rule No. 1: If the democrat is ahead, no matter by how small a margin, call the state early for the democrats.

Rule No. 2: If the republican is ahead by anything less than a huge margin, delay calling the state for him for as long as possible, just in case.


32 posted on 11/03/2004 2:20:23 PM PST by Elpasser
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To: publius1

They also had a huge problem in Racine, Wi. the woman in charge is of elections is an illegal immigrants who was encouraging anyone to register and vote-no questions asked. I think a lot of people from Chicago went to Racine and Kenosha to vote.


33 posted on 11/03/2004 2:21:21 PM PST by Merry
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To: paladinan

That has been floated as a rumor in some Republican circles. But it doesn't jive with the fact that Tommy doesn't like Washington all that much. It's not that he doesn't like running an executive agency, I think he just really likes being in Wisconsin more and wants to come back. He could shoot for a 5th term as Governor too.


34 posted on 11/03/2004 2:21:48 PM PST by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: laconic
Did you notice what a "portent of trouble" it was that the Carolinas and Virginia were "too close to call" until about 1/2 of their votes had been counted? Well, VA went 55-45 for Bush, SC was 58-41 and NC was 56-33.

Note that all these are eastern states. Another poster in the wee hours this a.m. said the reason for the delay in calling them was that the exit polls were pointing strongly the other way, so they were being cautious. Today we're celebrating the bogusity (I know it's not a word, but I like it) of the exit polls, but early yesterday evening that would not yet have been apparent.

I don't know if that analysis was a speculation or a report, but it sounds plausible.

35 posted on 11/03/2004 2:23:26 PM PST by sphinx
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To: goldstategop
If you look at the Upper Midwest States Kerry won, Bush's percentage in all three was 48%. A very good showing considering the fact Kerry once ran double digit numbers in them. That's plenty of encouragement for future elections.

Minnesota and Wisconsin are going through an alignment along similar lines as the South over the last few decades. In 2008, the Republican candidate should be able to pick up at least one of them. From 2012 onward, they should be safely in the 'R' column.

Demographic shifts are going to make it very difficult for a Democratic candidate to win the White House in the next generation or so. This was their best shot for the foreseeable future.

36 posted on 11/03/2004 2:24:38 PM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: July 4th

[July 4th]
>He could shoot for a 5th term as Governor too.

Hmm... I could be talked into that. A replacement for Jim "Nobody's governor but the NEA's" Doyle...


37 posted on 11/03/2004 2:24:40 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: laconic

Anyone notice the large impact Pretty Boy Johnny had on NC. In 2000, it was

Bush 56%, Gore 43%

With Pretty Boy on the ticket in 2004,

Bush 56%, Kerry 43%


38 posted on 11/03/2004 2:27:01 PM PST by cons_Mark
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To: paladinan
Would it be out of line for me to dream of Tommy Thompson as the replacement Senator for Herb "Nobody's senator but the abortion industry's" Kohl...? :)

Actually the speculation here in NE Wisconsin, is that our Congressman Mark Green may be running against Kohl when his term is up.

Tommy would be OK too, then maybe Green can run for Gov.
39 posted on 11/03/2004 2:31:42 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: paladinan

I too am wondering about the number of military ballots and absentee ballots outstanding. In PA, there are some 16,000 servicemen overseas....not enough to make a difference in our state, but in yours, who knows, especially is the 75-25% Bush to Kerry advantage that was reported for military voting is true. If, however, you do find a way to surgically remove Madison, Milwaukee, etc, let me know as I'd like to do the same with Philadelphia. We could put them all in one state and call it California Jr, or something!


40 posted on 11/03/2004 2:35:37 PM PST by PeterPhilly
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