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Last ditch appeal to Libertarians and Constitution voters:
11/1/2004 | agitate

Posted on 11/01/2004 6:34:54 AM PST by Agitate

Is your protest vote worth 4 years of John Kerry? Are you willing to risk appeasing terrorists, sellout to the UN and the EU, more taxes, less for the military, homosexual marriage and activist judges who will be there long after the president is gone, your for vote today?

Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win the final war. Is a vote for a candidate who will not win worth 4 years of Kerry’s extreme liberalism? I hope not.




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; constitution; election; kerry; libertarian; vote
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To: Agitate
"Did Bush really try to say Ted Kennedy was a decent man?"

Yep...adding something along the lines that if the folks down at the Crawford coffee shop could sit and talk with 'Uncle Ted'...they would like him.

Gotta go throw up now.....

redrock

161 posted on 11/01/2004 7:12:05 PM PST by redrock (John Kerry....a reincarnation of Benedict Arnold????)
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To: rmmcdaniell

Indeed, you are taking your ball home. Let's assume that you like Coke, six people like Sprite, and seven like cyanide. A vote is called to order drinks, and you decide that Sprite is a sucky wuss drink, so you vote for Coke dammit! and the six Sprite drinkers can join you or be damned. The cyanide drinkers carry the vote and you all die. Boy you sure taught those Sprite guys a lesson though!

The bottom line is that Bush would loose more votes appealing to you than he would gain, and that's not saying you are wrong. You and I likely agree on these issues. But the fact is that you are getting pissy because Bush isn't your perfect candidate. I'll take 80% over 20%. In fact, I'll take 40% over 20%. When the electorate is this evenly split, you aren't going to get a boutique candidate that can win.

I invite you to take one for the team and for evolutionary change and vote Bush tomorrow.


162 posted on 11/01/2004 7:21:17 PM PST by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: NATIVEDAUGHTER
The Republican Party will NEVER learn to be conservative unless it is punished into doing so....

I agree. The GOP does not represent many of my values anymore. They are now big gov, big corp, etc. They do have a few low-cost platform items like pro-life, just so they can call themselves conservative.

Clinton, pulled a similar bait and switch on the Gays because he knew they would follow him no matter what.

Such tactics will not work with me...the GOP needs to radically change or just fade away.

As for the SCOTUS, the today's GOP does not have the balls to push a conservative justice through anyhow...

(I live in a solid blue state so my vote won't impact the president - but I will avoid voting for most local GOP candidates as well)

163 posted on 11/01/2004 7:22:14 PM PST by 13foxtrot
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To: SunnySide
(Hating your government doesn't make you a citizen with solutions.)

I have a solution, less government.

The Republicans promise smaller government, so they agree with me.

Of course they don't deliver, they just talk about it while expanding it.

The democrats on the other hand, love big government. They love their government. I think you have found a home in the Democratic party so I know you won't hate it if Kerry is elected.
Evidently, You were cool with it when Bill and Hillary were in charge because it was your government, so maybe you will get your wish, ever expanding government.

If you oppose it, you will be "just another braying whiner in (cyber) space".

164 posted on 11/01/2004 7:29:02 PM PST by Protagoras (Hating Kerry doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: Protagoras
"The democrats on the other hand, love big government. They love their government. I think you have found a home in the Democratic party so I know you won't hate it if Kerry is elected. Evidently, You were cool with it when Bill and Hillary were in charge because it was your government, so maybe you will get your wish, ever expanding government. " .............More braying, labeling, accusations AND STILL no solutions. Time to put the libertarian bong water down. It's drowning your ability to draw the masses in. Careful, Santa knows when you're bad and when you're sad.
165 posted on 11/01/2004 7:40:17 PM PST by SunnySide
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To: okkev68
It would be helpful if someone could list all of the conservative things Bush has done the last 4 years compared with all of the centrist positions. I don't want to see statements he made, but actual policies

That's easy, the formula is the number of veto's of liberal, big government bills passed by congress times the number of conservative policies initiated minus bad judgment.

Do the math.

166 posted on 11/01/2004 7:43:01 PM PST by Gore_ War_ Vet ("The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted." -- James Madison)
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To: nopardons
Well since the list is so large and available, then why don't you humor me retard and post it again for all to read. I am sure it must go on for pages about all of Bushes conservative policies, laws, judges, etc. that he has introduced.
167 posted on 11/01/2004 7:43:21 PM PST by okkev68
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To: Agitate
As a Libertarian, I have to tell you that my vote is not an entitlement program for inferior candidates. I will never vote for a candidate simply because he or she is a member of a particular party. You have to earn my vote. For that reason, I'm going to vote enthusiastically for George W. Bush tomorrow, and I hope he wins in a landslide!
168 posted on 11/01/2004 7:47:23 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: okkev68
Calling me a "retard",because YOU are the one who has less than no idea what President Bush's CONSERVATIVE accomplishments have been,even though the list is a long one and has been posted more than 100 times to FR,really proves the point..doesn't it ? LOL

I don't do links and you should do your own scut work.Give it a try...you'll find it all in FR's archives.But that would be asking far too much of you,I fear.You'd much rather slosh around in your own delusions.Pity that........

169 posted on 11/01/2004 7:50:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: rmmcdaniell

When you find Utopian Perfection, let me know.
For now, I'll settle for keeping bin Laden's
recruits off my turf. Blowing up while shopping
for tomatoes at the supermarket is not my idea of
Utopia.


170 posted on 11/01/2004 7:56:34 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: okkev68
Try post #152....click on link....go to post#3.

Southack has a pretty impressive list.

(Or I guess you can just call everyone names....)

redrock

171 posted on 11/01/2004 8:05:15 PM PST by redrock (John Kerry....a reincarnation of Benedict Arnold????)
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To: SunnySide
..just another braying whiner lost in (cyber) space.

I see acid-tongue 'sunnyside' can't resist another hatefest.
172 posted on 11/01/2004 8:16:17 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: rmmcdaniell; Dog Gone; nopardons; SampleMan
The fact that a liberal, peacenik, Massachusetts senator is even this close after 9-11 is indicative of Bush’s ineptness at leadership.

Hmmmmm?????

Guess you didn't notice that Kerry didn't release his form 180 to open up his military record and the MSM didn't questions that, while SeeBS trotted out the Bush FAKE DOCUMENTS. I could list a whole lot of other crap, but I don't have the time or interest right now. Kerry is as close as he is in the polls because of the media and because the polls are not right. The only poll that matters is the one that's happening tomorrow.

I already voted for President Bush on Oct. 18th. I suggest and hope you will vote for him, too.

Go, Dubya, go !! .....

PS: Suggest you also stop watching the MSM.


173 posted on 11/01/2004 8:41:17 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Go shot accross the bow,but the person you replied to is a troll.Nothing,NOT A SINGELE FACT,gets through.


174 posted on 11/01/2004 8:43:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Agitate
Who said every election? Not me.

No, not you. But I've been hearing this -- from both sides, GOP and Dems -- for some 20 years.

I've always lived among Dems in NY and LA, and every election is the one that will return coathanger abortions (should the GOP win). Every election is the one that will dissolve US sovergnty and confiscate all guns (should the Dems win). And both sides agree -- this will be the last free election (should the other side win).

When I was in high school in the late 1970s, I discovered some books by Gary Allen (a John Bircher type). In None Dare Call It Conspiracy he warned that 1972 will be the last free election unless conservatives retake Congress from the CFR. In The Rockefeller File he predicted that 1976 would be the last free election. And in Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter he said 1980 would be the last free election.

I read all three books about the same time, after the 1972 and 1976 elections, so I could already see that at least two of his predictions were wrong.

I know this: sometimes the Dems win, sometimes the GOP, but things pretty much continue in the same direciton, without much radical change either way. So I've stopped worrying about "emergency" elections.

In 2000, Cher said that if Bush won, "You wouldn't have a single f*ck*ng right left," but she was wrong too. Likewise, I don't buy anyone warning about this election. I no longer much care whether Bush or Kerry wins, so I'm comfortable voting for Badnarik.

175 posted on 11/01/2004 9:12:04 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: nopardons

Thanks. I can believe that.


176 posted on 11/01/2004 9:15:25 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Disruptors,trolls,and FR's own "sleepers" have all crawled out from 'neath their collective rocks. Tomorrow might be even worse.

But when the president wins,and he shall,they can ball crawl back and sleep for the next 3 1/2 years. :-)

177 posted on 11/01/2004 9:21:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Agitate
I don't think Kerry cares one whit about defending America,

Kerry hails from our nation's financial elite, many of whom were killed on 9/11. Many Yale grads and Skull & Bones members in the Twin Towers, I'm sure. You really think Kerry or the Democratic elite don't care about terrorism? They're targets too, and they know it.

The Dems' rank & file in the antiwar protests may oppose the war, but the Democratic elite (the ones who attend the Ivy League and work on Wall Street and vacation in Martha's Vinyard and the Hamptons) are no dummies, and they can be brutal if their survival is at stake. Remember, it wasn't Middle America that suffered most on 9/11 -- it was Hillary's and Kerry's social circle. I'm sure they had friends and aquaintances in the Twin Towers.

Our war on terror policies will remain largely unchanged, whoever wins tomorrow.

178 posted on 11/01/2004 9:23:59 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: rmmcdaniell
No, the fact that this traitor is even being considered is NOT the President's fault dear, it is the fault of the MSM who have lied, covered up, cheated, committed fraud for , and just plain have spit out propaganda in order to keep the voters STUPID. Many American's pay little attention and believe it if Dan Rather says it. YOU should know that. You are revealing your real persuasion here dear under the guise of preventing a Hillary victory.
179 posted on 11/01/2004 9:28:09 PM PST by ladyinred (John Kerry has a plan to change the national symbol of an Eagle to a Chicken)
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To: Reaganez

Same with the activist judges and less military spending. Libertarians take the worst instincts of both parties and create a noxious philosophy.


180 posted on 11/01/2004 9:30:20 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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