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Feathered ancestor of T. rex unearthed [Transitional species]
Nature Magazine ^ | 06 October 2004 | Zeeya Merali

Posted on 10/06/2004 2:08:54 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

Ancestors of the fearsome Tyrannosaurus rex were clothed in delicate feathers, a fossil discovered in China suggests. The find may come as a surprise to people used to images of Tyrannosaurus as a scaly monster. But many palaeontologists have been predicting just such a find ever since the first evidence of a dinosaur with a feathery coat came from the same site in Liaoning in 1995.

The 130 million-year-old fossil is the oldest member recorded from the tyrannosauroid family, and the first in the group with a feather-like covering. The discovery of its skull and other fragments is reported today in Nature1.

The new dinosaur has been christened Dilong paradoxus. Dilong means Emperor dragon. "We added paradoxus to its name because it's so counter-intuitive to think of feathers and a Tyrannosaurus together," says team member Mark Norell at the American Museum of Natural History in New York city.

Evidence of these so-called protofeathers is usually difficult to find because feathers decay when they are exposed to oxygen. But at Liaoning, the specimens appear to have been buried extremely quickly under fine-grained volcanic ash, helping to preserve the soft, feathery outlines.

"Dilong is an exciting find because it's so complete," says palaeontologist Thomas Holtz of the University of Maryland in College Park, "and the feathers are the icing on the cake."

Holtz hopes that the new evidence will convince the scientific community that feathers evolved on dinosaurs long before the appearance of birds. Until now, some palaeontologists have been dubious that feathered tyrannosauroids existed.

Feathered and petite

The jackal-sized Dilong was far smaller than T. rex, which roamed the Earth some 65 million years later. But Dilong shares many of its characteristics.

The meateater probably had a broad, square skull and powerful jaws, says Holtz. But while the forelimbs of T. rex had dwindled until they were almost useless, Dilong would have been able to clutch food in its hands and bring it to its mouth.

Dilong's protofeathers are not what we would recognise as feathers today, but are their evolutionary precursors. Rather than having a central shaft and barbs, they are single flexible filaments that would have covered the dinosaur's body like hair.

The protofeathers would most likely have been used for insulation rather than flight, Norell says. The giant T. rex had probably lost the featherlike features of its predecessors because, with its much larger size, it would have had more difficulty losing heat than keeping it. Tyrannosaurus chicks may have had a downy cover, though.

However, the discovery of feathered dinosaurs at Liaoning is trickling down into popular culture. The first Jurassic Park film featured mainly scaly reptiles, Norell says, "But from what I've seen of the first shots of Jurassic Park IV, all the dinosaurs now have feathers."

[From PH:] The article has a small sketch, but no pics. The footnote in the article is this: Xu X., et al. Nature, 431. 680 - 684 (2004). And in the original artice there's a link to the Letter in Nature.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; darwin; dinosaurs; evolution; feathers; horsefeathers; marcbolan; oldearthspeculation; spontaneouslifer; storkzilla; transitional
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To: nmh
It is also NOT a coincidence that ALL prominent evolutionists are atheists.

This article lends support to what you are saying: A Who’s Who of evolutionists

Regarding Junior's statement that Creationism is a plot by Satan, DannyTN had an interesting response on this thread: Link

81 posted on 10/07/2004 9:55:09 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo (Kerry is scary)
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To: nmh
ALL prominent evolutionists are atheists.

I'd really like to see a citation or a source or some kind of data to back that assertion up. If that's true, then why has the Catholic church stated that evolution is compatible with Catholic doctrine? Or are ALL Catholics also athiest???

82 posted on 10/07/2004 10:03:52 AM PDT by stremba
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To: stremba
Or are ALL Catholics also athiest???

I wish you hadn't done that. I tremble to contemplate the firestorm you may have kindled.

83 posted on 10/07/2004 10:56:54 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: PatrickHenry

You should be careful lighting a match after that kind of post. Could cause an explosion.


84 posted on 10/07/2004 10:59:34 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Referring to #76


85 posted on 10/07/2004 11:00:40 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Junior
I think there are microscopic attachment points for the muscles controlling feather movement.

I had never even considered that. I would have assumed feathers ruffled the same way hair raises. Of course I don't know much about either.

86 posted on 10/07/2004 11:05:46 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: js1138; stremba
Here's a website with what purports to be respectable poll results on the subject:
PUBLIC BELIEFS ABOUT EVOLUTION AND CREATION.

The third column shows, presumably, atheistic evolutionists. Those numbers are swamped by the middle column.

87 posted on 10/07/2004 11:08:17 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: PatrickHenry

This definition of theistic evolution sounds like crock pot creationism to me. Poofism slowed down.

So there isn't a column for theists who think creation doesn't need daemons to keep pushing the arrow in flight?


88 posted on 10/07/2004 11:13:25 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: js1138
So there isn't a column for theists who think creation doesn't need daemons to keep pushing the arrow in flight?

Not all polls are brilliantly constructed. People with the specific belief you mentioned would have answered, somehow, and they'd be found in column 2 or 3, depending on which answer they felt closer to.

89 posted on 10/07/2004 11:18:32 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: js1138

Anyway, regardless of defects in the poll questions, there are a whole lot of people who accept evolution without being atheists. (Notwithstanding the Jack Chick worldview.)


90 posted on 10/07/2004 11:23:10 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: stanz
You want my parrot stuffed? LOL

Oh c'mon, your Polly can't be that miserable...can he?!

91 posted on 10/07/2004 11:23:12 AM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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To: Ciexyz
I want that baby as a stuffed toy for Christmas.

That's what I thought you meant...to have him stuffed...sometimes he deserves it!

92 posted on 10/07/2004 12:04:01 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: nmh
Maybe my cat will morph into a bird soon too!

That you would suggest such a thing demonstrates that you have absolutely no understanding of the theory of evolution whatsoever and as such you are not at all qualified to speak on it.
93 posted on 10/07/2004 12:31:02 PM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: Dimensio; nmh
Maybe my cat will morph into a bird soon too!

If it sounded unreasonable, I'm sure he meant that maybe God will morph some dust into a bird for him.

94 posted on 10/07/2004 2:04:15 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: stremba

"I'd really like to see a citation or a source or some kind of data to back that assertion up. If that's true, then why has the Catholic church stated that evolution is compatible with Catholic doctrine? Or are ALL Catholics also athiest???"

YOU look it up! ALL the prominent evolutionists are atheists? Why the shock? You'd have to be one since you would be denying what the Bible says.

I'm not Catholic,. Never will be a Catholic so I don't pay attention to what your pope says. I'm Bible based. You will have to ask a fellow Catholic why they believe in evolution or if your church validates and then ask them why.


95 posted on 10/07/2004 3:05:19 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: stremba

Ya gotta know when to hold, know when to fold ...


96 posted on 10/07/2004 4:11:40 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: PatrickHenry

And...it was of course warm blodded.


97 posted on 10/07/2004 4:14:55 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: nmh

Probably not. Your cat evolved as a predator and if allowed to roam the neighbohood will kill birds today, if still young and agile.


98 posted on 10/07/2004 4:16:29 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: bert

"Probably not. Your cat evolved as a predator and if allowed to roam the neighbohood will kill birds today, if still young and agile."

LOL!

Always "evolving" - hey, just like your theories of evolution! Funny thing about truth ... it DOES NOT "evolve".


99 posted on 10/07/2004 5:10:34 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: longshadow
100
100 posted on 10/07/2004 6:17:00 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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