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LIVE THREAD: The 2004 Vice Presidential Debate: Cheney v. Edwards
Free Republic ^ | October 5, 2004

Posted on 10/05/2004 3:59:57 PM PDT by Howlin

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To: Miss Marple; All

Listening to Breck Girl talk about "the rich" and "the workers" I've finally figured out what Edwards lapel pen is.

It's from the American Socialist Party. He's showing his solaridarity with his communist brethren!


3,061 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:03 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: All

"Are you trying to have it both ways?"


I JUST LOST IT!!


3,062 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:04 PM PDT by OXENinFLA (So sKerry pulled a pen from his jacket, he still broke rules he agreed to..)
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To: NYC Republican

Edwards just did himself a lot of damage. He brought out family business. Not even an idiot would do that. Cheney shows great control not going over and tipping that twit's chair.


3,063 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:04 PM PDT by freecopper01
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
that will be one of the most memorable outtakes of this VP debate

"If you can't stand up to Howard Dean, how are you going to stand up to al Qaeda?" was nice too.

3,064 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:07 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: LUV W

Oh man. I think Gwen is gay.


3,065 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:09 PM PDT by eternity (From here to...)
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To: fourthrider

Can you believe this guy, Edwards. He's not worthy to carry Cheney's jock strap.

This is good ole' fashioned @ss whupping... in fact Cheney is giving Edwards and company a 50 gallon drum of @ss whup..

nick


3,066 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:11 PM PDT by nikos1121
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gotta say it again
this is how a moderator should perform

that lehrer guy was an embarrassment!


3,067 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:15 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: Gobolt77

I can't believe Edwards brought up Meals on Wheels for seniors--- that is hysterical---


3,068 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:19 PM PDT by ElRushbo (Harley Riders against Elton John)
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To: All
OMG

Edwards says about Cheney "the fact that they have a GAY daughter".

He is a desperate piece of trash. The lowest of low!

sw

3,069 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:21 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: firerosemom; All
I am glad to see your comment.

Cheney is such a strong, forceful second-in-command, that I would like to see him continue in that role. He is extraordinarily good at it.

But Rumsfeld loves the give-and-take with the media, and is a more outgoing, relaxed, convivial sort of person when out front.

So, I would like to see Rumsfeld-Cheney '08!!

With Secretary of Defense: George W. Bush.

Let's keep the team together -- just switch the positions of President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld.
3,070 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:27 PM PDT by Museum Twenty (Proud supporter of President George W. Bush)
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To: NormsRevenge

Excerpts From Tuesday's VP Debate in Ohio

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=7&u=/ap/20041006/ap_on_el_pr/debate_excerpts

By The Associated Press

Excerpts from Tuesday's vice presidential debate at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland:


VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY:


"The effort that we've mounted with respect to Iraq (news - web sites) focused specifically on the possibility that this was the most likely nexus between the terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. The biggest threat we faced today is the possibility of terrorists smuggling a nuclear weapon or a biological agent into one of our own cities and threatening the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans. What we did in Iraq was exactly the right thing to do. If I had it to recommend all over again, I would recommend exactly the same course of action. The world is far safer today because Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) is in jail, his government is no longer in power. And we did exactly the right thing."


SEN. JOHN EDWARDS (news, bio, voting record):


"It's not just me that sees the mess in Iraq. There are Republican leaders, like (Sen.) John McCain, like (Sen.) Richard Lugar, like (Sen.) Chuck Hagel, who have said Iraq is a mess and it's getting worse. And when they were asked why, Richard Lugar said because of the incompetence of the administration. What Paul Bremer said yesterday is they didn't have enough troops to secure the country. They also didn't have a plan to win the peace. They also didn't put the alliances together to make this successful. We need a fresh start."


EDWARDS:


"We went into Afghanistan (news - web sites) and very quickly the administration made a decision to divert attention from that and instead began to plan for the invasion of Iraq. And these connections — I want the American people to hear this very clearly. Listen carefully to what the vice president is saying. Because there is no connection between Saddam Hussein and the attacks of September 11th — period. The 9/11 Commission has said that's true. (Secretary of State) Colin Powell (news - web sites) has said it's true. But the vice president keeps suggesting that there is. There is not. And, in fact, any connection with al-Qaida is tenuous at best."


CHENEY:


"The senator has got his facts wrong. I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11, but there's clearly an established Iraqi track record with terror. And the point is that that's the place where you're most likely to see the terrorists come together with weapons of mass destruction, the deadly technologies that Saddam Hussein had developed and used over the years. Now, the fact of the matter is, the big difference here ... is they are not prepared to deal with states that sponsor terror. They've got a very limited view about how to use U.S. military forces to defend America."


"A little tough talk in the midst of a campaign or as part of a presidential debate cannot obscure a record of 30 years of being on the wrong side of defense issues. And they give absolutely no indication, based on that record, of being willing to go forward and aggressively pursue the war on terror with a kind of strategy that will work, that will defeat our enemies and will guarantee that the United States doesn't again get attacked by the likes of al-Qaida."


EDWARDS:


"What John Kerry (news - web sites) said — and it's just as clear as day to anybody who was listening — he said: 'We will find terrorists where they are and kill them before they ever do harm to the American people, first.' We will keep this country safe. He defended this country as a young man, he will defend this country as president of the United States. He also said very clearly that he will never give any country veto power over the security of the United States of America. Now, I know the vice president would like to pretend that wasn't said, and the president would too. But the reality is it was said."


CHENEY:


"It's awfully hard to convey a sense of credibility to allies when you voted for the war and then you declared: Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time. You voted for the war, and then you voted against supporting the troops when they needed the equipment, the fuel, the spare parts and the ammunition and the body armor. You're not credible on Iraq because of the enormous inconsistencies that John Kerry and you have cited time after time after time during the course of the campaign. Whatever the political pressures of the moment requires, that's where you're at. But you've not been consistent, and there's no indication at all that John Kerry has the conviction to successfully carry through on the war on terror."




3,071 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: AZ Rangers Wifey

"business end of his shoe..." lol!


3,072 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:33 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (lib­·er·al - noun: ¹A person who is so open-minded that their brains have fallen out)
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To: Semper Paratus

Good grief. The "empathy" in Edwards's voice is sickening.


3,073 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:36 PM PDT by Gunder
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To: Semper Paratus
Edwards has been caught. What world does Edwards live in? Gay partners see each other in the hospital, they can arrange funeral... good grief, this man is completely out of touch!
3,074 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:39 PM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: Poser

Edwards is a lawyer and uses typical lawyer drop it in even if it will be stricken from the records jackass tactics.


3,075 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:44 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: rwfromkansas

Anyone notice what a hard time Edwards has tring to say "America"? You would think he was the devil trying to say "Jesus".


3,076 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:45 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Peach

WTF is this BS??? Just who the hell is Edwards to pass judgement on or give his approval to Dick Cheney's relationship with his daughter?


3,077 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:46 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (I'm running out of middle fingers to give to the hurricanes!)
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To: aft_lizard
I will be the first to admit it, I wanted Cheney gone and off the ticket, but the man is so devastatingly good at this, its amazing.

I'll be the first to admit it -- I wanted Cheney to run for President and GWB to be his vice president. Howabout THEM apples? But lemme tell ya, when I watched the news conference that GWB gave in 2000, where he announced his selection for VP, I was ecstatic. Small surprise, eh?

3,078 posted on 10/05/2004 7:01:53 PM PDT by Cooltouch
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To: Howlin

Edwards' convoluted responses even seem to be confusing Gwen.


3,079 posted on 10/05/2004 7:02:05 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
WELL KNOCK ME DOWN!!!!! Republicans are winning a debate with Democrats over the topic of GAY MARRIAGE!!!
3,080 posted on 10/05/2004 7:02:08 PM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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