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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate (Pre-Debate discussion)

Posted on 09/30/2004 3:50:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Edited on 09/30/2004 6:27:02 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

There have been several "live threads" posted today regarding the debate starting early this morning. Let's make this the official thread.

FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; americangigolo; bushwon; cuticlesforkerry; debate; debates; electionpresident; fingernails; firstdebate; flushthejohn; jonsquerry; livethread; lurch; manicure; official; orangeman
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To: guitfiddlist

kerry's little suitcase comment set himself up for some serious fact checking.


2,601 posted on 09/30/2004 7:30:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: dalebert

Obviously there is a parallel universe thing going here.

The optimists are in one universe and the naysayers in another.

It's hard to tell which is the real universe.

That's a problem Kerry has as well.


2,602 posted on 09/30/2004 7:30:52 PM PDT by altura (Dan Rather is Geraldo without the humility.)
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To: WestTexasWend

I think Bush had beter points, but he did NOT come across well, he looked nercvous, repeated himself many times, he started to stutter several times, lost track of words...just like I do... :)


2,603 posted on 09/30/2004 7:30:54 PM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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To: WestTexasWend

I think Bush had better points, but he did NOT come across well, he looked nercvous, repeated himself many times, he started to stutter several times, lost track of words...just like I do... :)


2,604 posted on 09/30/2004 7:30:55 PM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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BOTTOM LINE: Kerry lies much more convincingly than Bush tells the truth.
2,605 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:05 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Nowhere Man
OK, my take on the debate. W is much better than four years ago.

As for Kerry, he wants to disarm America, make it impossible to have forward operating bases in the Middle East and is an admitted and proud flip flopper. Absolutely no response to Bush's constant battering of his weak kneed non leadership in the WOT.

Bush on points.

2,606 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: txflake

I didn't say a word to hispanarepublicana (although I think she's beautilliousriffic).

I ripped YOU.

For having the "Democrat view" you were spewing here.


2,607 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:33 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Delphinium

Ofcourse Lehrer is filth, and they should have insisted on Britt Hume , but they probably wouldn't have gone for it.



yeah, that "10,000 - I mean 1,000" casualties mistake was no mistake...


2,608 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:45 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: isthisnickcool

"Kerry is more polished. Which proves that you can indeed polish a turd."

LINE OF THE NIGHT!!


2,609 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:46 PM PDT by curlewbird
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To: Delphinium
ZMy husband thought W acquitted himself well. He has gone to bed.

I thought that the President had a better closing message.

2,610 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:52 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: isthisnickcool
Kerry is more polished. Which proves that you can indeed polish a turd.

Well as the saying goes, Kerry "is like a mackerel, it both shines and stinks in the moonlight."

Uh oh, Terry Kerry, WIDE LOAD!!!!!!!
2,611 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:55 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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To: MrChips

Excellent close- reminded me of a SOTU.


2,612 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:58 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: fraidycat

"ARE WE WATCHING THE SAME "DEBATE"???

Unless you give weight to "height", Kerry is coming off as being a lightweight"

I AGREE! I AGREE!!!

I was quoting someone else. I think Kerry is coming off as a slick, lying horseface.


2,613 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:58 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: ARCADIA

yeah, just like he was the first in Paris talking to the Viet Cong!


2,614 posted on 09/30/2004 7:32:00 PM PDT by luvie (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: Kitten1
Even though I'm drinking my Riesling from the bottle

I ask thru my Merlot Haze, are we a bunch of winos or what? Maybe the wine marketers assn. should make a nice donation to FR....

2,615 posted on 09/30/2004 7:32:00 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: All

KERRY: SADDAM WAS A THREAT, BUT WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT IT? CAPTURED MIGHTY ONE. Kerry you make me sick when you say you faught in Vietnam and have experience to run as President.


2,616 posted on 09/30/2004 7:32:07 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: RaceBannon

I think the headline of this debate is:

Bin Laden does not get to determine how the US defends itself.


2,617 posted on 09/30/2004 7:32:11 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Tribune7

ABsolutely, Closing comment was great. I wish we'd seen a little more of that smooth confidence throughout.


2,618 posted on 09/30/2004 7:32:44 PM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: Kornev

It was a tie. Slight style points to Kerry, though the podium pounding shtick is going to wear on some people.

He needed to score a decisive knockout and floor Bush. A lot of voters were watching that needed to be reassured that Bush would be calm and steady and that his convictions were firm, which was pretty much as shown tonight.

Most online sites also called it a draw, with a couple of debate style points to Kerry. But, we already knew he was supposed to be a master debater who would punch Bush's light out, which didn't happen


2,619 posted on 09/30/2004 7:33:16 PM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: mikrofon; Howlin

We need to get the transcripts and go over it.

The spin is going to begin.


2,620 posted on 09/30/2004 7:33:40 PM PDT by demlosers (The FreeRepublic Pajama Press!)
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