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REPUBLICANS PLAN PUSH FOR ELIMINATION OF IRS
The Drudge Report ^ | 8/1/04 | Drudge

Posted on 08/01/2004 6:08:53 PM PDT by NeoCaveman

A domestic centerpiece of the Bush/GOP agenda for a second Bush term is getting rid of the Internal Revenue Service, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The Speaker of the House will push for replacing the nation's current tax system with a national sales tax or a value added tax, Hill sources tell DRUDGE.

"People ask me if I’m really calling for the elimination of the IRS, and I say I think that’s a great thing to do for future generations of Americans," Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert explains in his new book, to be released on Wednesday.

"Pushing reform legislation will be difficult. Change of any sort seldom comes easy. But these changes are critical to our economic vitality and our economic security abroad," Hastert declares in SPEAKER: LESSONS FROM FORTY YEARS IN COACHING AND POLITICS.

"“If you own property, stock, or, say, one hundred acres of farmland and tax time is approaching, you don’t want to make a mistake, so you’re almost obliged to go to a certified public accountant, tax preparer, or tax attorney to help you file a correct return. That costs a lot of money. Now multiply the amount you have to pay by the total number of people who are in the same boat. You can’t. No one can because precise numbers don’t exist. But we can stipulate that we’re talking about a huge amount. Now consider that a flat tax, national sales tax, or VAT would not only eliminate the need to do this, it could also eliminate the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) itself and make the process of paying taxes much easier."

"By adopting a VAT, sales tax, or some other alternative, we could begin to change productivity. If you can do that, you can change gross national product and start growing the economy. You could double the economy over the next fifteen years. All of a sudden, the problem of what future generations owe in Social Security and Medicare won’t be so daunting anymore. The answer is to grow the economy, and the key to doing that is making sure we have a tax system that attracts capital and builds incentives to keep it here instead of forcing it out to other nations."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fairtax; gop; gwb2004; irs; nrst; taxreform
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To: spokeshave
A FLAT TAX 13% and NO deductions like in Russia is MUCH much better.....(that would tik off the lefties....ha ha)

I also like the flat tax but prefer the NRST because of the added privacy. There really is no need for the government to know how much "income" we make.

21 posted on 08/01/2004 6:17:42 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Kerry lied, good men died. Go to www.kerrylied.com)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Jaw-dropping, pure awe. Equality in taxation. Make it so.


22 posted on 08/01/2004 6:17:43 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Lunatic Fringe

"It will NEVER happen. The tax lawyer lobby is too strong."

I think you might be underestimating the the strength of character of GW. If he wants it bad enough, he'll get it.


23 posted on 08/01/2004 6:18:05 PM PDT by Rebelbase (H.W.O.V. (How Would Osama Vote?))
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To: dubyaismypresident
It would take a Constitutional amendment to avert having both VAT and a personal income tax. Usually, if Europe is a guide, what happens when you have a VAT you get promises but the personal and corporate income taxes continue.

Further, egalitarians and the dynamic of envy will make not punishing the successful difficult.

24 posted on 08/01/2004 6:18:16 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: spokeshave
NO....NOT a VAT...its added to EVERY transaction beween producer and consumer....and it REALLY really jacks up the price and adds to inflation (like in EU).

I understand that, but let's read:

""By adopting a VAT, sales tax, or some other alternative.."

It looks like they're looking at all the options. Personally, I favor the NRST. But I'm all ears and quite open to other alternatives.

25 posted on 08/01/2004 6:19:31 PM PDT by TomServo ("I'm so upset that I'll binge on a Saltine.")
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To: dubyaismypresident

Nowhere in this story does it say that Bush supports getting rid of the income tax. Drudge is really scraping this time.


26 posted on 08/01/2004 6:19:46 PM PDT by Betaille ("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
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To: dubyaismypresident; MeekOneGOP; devolve; PhilDragoo; potlatch; Smartass; JohnHuang2; Grampa Dave; ..

A BUMP to END THE IRS! - ping.


27 posted on 08/01/2004 6:19:46 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: dubyaismypresident
If you own property, stock, or, say, one hundred acres of farmland and tax time is approaching, you don’t want to make a mistake, so you’re almost obliged to go to a certified public accountant, tax preparer, or tax attorney to help you file a correct return. That costs a lot of money. Now multiply the amount you have to pay by the total number of people who are in the same boat. You can’t. No one can because precise numbers don’t exist. But we can stipulate that we’re talking about a huge amount. Now consider that a flat tax, national sales tax, or VAT would not only eliminate the need to do this, it could also eliminate the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) itself and make the process of paying taxes much easier."

This is the second article today that I've read in which Bush or his campaign have attacked accountants. Given the performance of Big 5 (or 4) firms over the last few years, it's probably a winning strategy. Lawyers, however, are the real plague of our society.

28 posted on 08/01/2004 6:20:02 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: dubyaismypresident

If Bush does make this a campaign promise he has just assured himself re-election.

Of course how he handles then will determine the future of the Rep Party.


29 posted on 08/01/2004 6:20:03 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France. -Duke Wellington)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Holy Sh*T !

Hallelujah !

30 posted on 08/01/2004 6:20:53 PM PDT by chiller (Kill lying liberal Old media.....turn 'em off !)
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To: Arkinsaw
I doubt the tit will ever be yanked out of the monster's mouth.

And I tend to agree.

31 posted on 08/01/2004 6:21:24 PM PDT by TomServo ("I'm so upset that I'll binge on a Saltine.")
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To: swilhelm73

Bush didn't say that he supports this. This is just an excerpt from Hasterts book. Why is drudge saying that this is Bush?


32 posted on 08/01/2004 6:21:25 PM PDT by Betaille ("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
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To: dubyaismypresident

I've heard this song & dance before.


33 posted on 08/01/2004 6:21:27 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
There really is no need for the government to know how much "income" we make.

And there should never be a need for workers of a country to ever know, for any reason outside of our defense to know!

34 posted on 08/01/2004 6:21:33 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: dubyaismypresident
This alone is plenty of reason to support President Bush!

Of course, national security is another sufficient reason.

35 posted on 08/01/2004 6:22:20 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated. Thank you, President Bush.)
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To: dubyaismypresident

A national sales tax would be such a powerful and liberating change for this nation. The dems will be fighting and kicking all the way, but this would bury sKerry and co.


36 posted on 08/01/2004 6:22:31 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: dubyaismypresident
Fantastic news! God bless these people!


37 posted on 08/01/2004 6:22:54 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Liberals cannot lead, if we refuse to follow..........)
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To: dubyaismypresident

I don't want Europe's V.A.T.!

I'd rather have a flat tax. Years ago Forbes pushed it and it made sense.

I am for getting rid of the Gestapo, er I.R.S..


38 posted on 08/01/2004 6:23:49 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Rebelbase

He will not get it unless he gets a landslide and an election mandate. Even then a tough proposition

could settle on a flat tax - OK By me


39 posted on 08/01/2004 6:24:14 PM PDT by underbyte (Arrogance will drop your IQ 50 points)
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To: RockinRight
Might be a good time for Kerry/Edwards underwear change.
40 posted on 08/01/2004 6:24:23 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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