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Study: Some Gays Can Go Straight
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010509/aponline013921_000.htm ^

Posted on 07/18/2004 6:48:22 PM PDT by joedownthestreet

By Malcolm Ritter AP Science Writer Wednesday, May 9, 2001; 1:39 a.m. EDT

NEW ORLEANS –– An explosive new study says some gay people can turn straight if they really want to.

That conclusion clashes with that of major mental health organizations, which say that sexual orientation is fixed and that so-called reparative therapy may actually be harmful.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: behavior; civilization; culturewar; exgays; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualbehavior; homosexuality; marriage; redemption; romans1
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To: rbg81
You have missed the primary group of gays.

The vast majority of gay men were sexually abused as juveniles by adult males. By normalizing their experience and becoming convinced they were actually freed by the experience, their homosexuality is actually just a drastic coping mechanism.

What is telling is that this same group also has dramatically higher suicide rates than the population as a whole, as well as above average drug abuse rates. While the evidence is not definitive, I find it an interesting coincidence.
21 posted on 07/18/2004 7:34:52 PM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: Paul Atreides
To the left, this is just like admitting that an aborted fetus is a human being. The left's two unshakable sacred cows are homosexuality and abortion. The family must be destroyed.

Well put. That's why there can never, ever be a single abortion that is unacceptable or wrong. All of them have to be perfectly justifiable and even laudable--even a partial-birth abortion of a full-term baby for pure convenience. Similarly, there must never be a gay who has gone straight. Not one. Not ever.

22 posted on 07/18/2004 7:35:11 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: joedownthestreet
"Study: Some Gays Can Go Straight"

This, of course, should read, "Study: Some Gays Can Be Cured!"

23 posted on 07/18/2004 7:35:13 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: corkoman

I hope your dog has found a good support group (pack?).


24 posted on 07/18/2004 7:41:31 PM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: joedownthestreet
If a gay guy goes straight, will he lose his talent for accessorising? Will he still know the difference between ecru and ivory, or between taupe and mauve?

More importantly, will he switch from Dem to GOP?

25 posted on 07/18/2004 7:45:11 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Past performance is no guarantee of future results... I hope.)
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To: joedownthestreet

Homo EXuals.


26 posted on 07/18/2004 7:48:58 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Hate is not a family value, it's a liberal democrat value.)
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To: joedownthestreet
That conclusion clashes with that of major mental health organizations, which say that sexual orientation is fixed...

If sexual orientation is supposedly fixed, how can bi-sexuality be explained? Are people supposedly born bi-sexual?

27 posted on 07/18/2004 7:52:49 PM PDT by usadave
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To: rbg81
I think they fall into three categories: (1) those that are born gay (--it definitely is possible)...

No known research supports this. Federal funded DNA studies at John Hopkins, Emory and UCLA over a ten year period have failed to prove that someone can be born an alcoholic or drug addict. After millions of wasted tax-$$$... self-help organizations like AA and CA must now admit that alcoholism and drug addiction are SELF INFLICTED diseases. With present day technology… it is not possible to do research that would support your belief. All homosexual behavior is simply deviate sexual behavior... a choice.

28 posted on 07/18/2004 7:53:01 PM PDT by Luke (u)
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To: joedownthestreet

Here is a link to
"When Homosexuality Hits Home"
by Joe Dallas

I heard Mr. Dallas (who left the gay lifestyle) interviewed about this book.
It might be a useful resource for delicate family situation.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0736912010/qid=1090205726/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0504109-0949524?v=glance&s=books


29 posted on 07/18/2004 7:57:24 PM PDT by VOA
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To: joedownthestreet

What is it with all this gay activism, "news."? I wish it would dry up and go away. It really is pathetic that 2% of the population get 90% of air time. Let these people push fudge and split hairs all they want. I really don't want to know about their "lifestyle;" nor do my wife and children. It's SICK when your children ask about gays and lesbians; and parents are supposed to explain this crap?


30 posted on 07/18/2004 8:04:49 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: zarf
As a general proposition, giving up any addiction while you are still alive and can do so, seems to make sense. IMHO.

John / Billybob

31 posted on 07/18/2004 8:08:21 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Paul Atreides
The left's two unshakable sacred cows are homosexuality and abortion. The family must be destroyed.

No wonder the Left and the Homosexual Agenda go hand in hand so very well!

32 posted on 07/18/2004 8:14:28 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: rbg81

I too have been exposed to lots of gays, because of the area of Houston I have grown up in. I’m not sure about the born gay part, because I don’t know about the gene part. I will say however when I was a lad the rest of us knew something wasn’t right about my cousin Franklin who lived in Fort Worth ever since we were tiny. The boy was a sissy.

He became a professor at Texas A&M, had three kids, left his family for one of his male students, and died of aids.

As far as your other two conclusions, I concur. I can’t count the times I’ve met some ugly ass girl, and remarked it’s a good thing she is gay. The gay culture is probably one she is accepted in. I also think some do it just to stand out.


33 posted on 07/18/2004 8:23:30 PM PDT by dix (Remember the Alamo, and God bless Texas)
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To: sharktrager
The vast majority of gay men were sexually abused as juveniles by adult males. By normalizing their experience and becoming convinced they were actually freed by the experience, their homosexuality is actually just a drastic coping mechanism.
Thank you. I worked with a lot of gays due to a sideline music career in my 20s. The reason that so many gay men are very attractive men was because they were very attractive boys. Virtually every gay I've met had a horror story for a childhood.

I'm not condoning the behavior -- it's a terrible and destructive lifestyle -- so no lectures, please. Telling them that "God hates fags" is not the answer.


34 posted on 07/18/2004 8:39:21 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: South40

Explosive is not a stong enough word.

It is devastating to their "world view" that it is a orientation which they have no control.

Provable, experimentally repeatable results which have sexual behavior as mutable back to normal conduct means there is no reason to have homosexual marriages. There is 100% reason to prohibit homosexuals from adoption or even child custody.

Of course there are countles empiricle studies which sexual behavior reverting back from homosexual to normal based on studies of the sexual conduct of long term prisoners.

ALL the studies which were supposed to point to a fictional homosexual gene have be unrepeatable and put into disrepute.

Should such studies continue to build evidence, the homosexual loby will just change their tactic and say it is just a matter of choice. They will then compare themselves to the abortion movement. The homosexual lobby will not give up their fetish without a fight.


35 posted on 07/18/2004 9:09:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: joedownthestreet

YEp - article is completely wrong - ALL Gays can go straight - if they just make that decision...


36 posted on 07/18/2004 9:12:29 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: joedownthestreet

Remember when they were calling it a "lifestyle choice"?

If it's a choice they made how were they born that way?

They always contradict themselves, it's funny and sad at the same time hearing those people talk.


37 posted on 07/18/2004 9:15:40 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: counterpunch

Kerry and Edwards, We're not just NAMBLA supporters, we're members.


38 posted on 07/18/2004 9:21:53 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: All

Homosexuality is just like ADD and Depression, as in we choose to not pay attention and we choose to not be happy, yet doctors try to say that we are born that way.

I was diagnosed with both ADD and depression and had to take medication to "help me" but it didn't work and in some cases the medication hurt me, so I choose to pay attention in school and be happy and it worked.


39 posted on 07/18/2004 9:25:10 PM PDT by TeenageConservative (Kerry/Edwards: Big Brother is watching you.)
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To: Luke

The human genome was sequenced what, 5 years ago? Pointing to a few years of studies in a field as fast-changing as genetics as somehow proving a negative is ridiculous.

If you look at the article, phone surveys of a small self-selected group of people "proving" that homosexuality is "curable" is also a stretch.


40 posted on 07/18/2004 9:44:50 PM PDT by cryptical
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