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Killing Two of Your Three Triplets to Keep Your Lifestyle
American Digest ^ | July 18, 2004 | Gerard Van der Leun

Posted on 07/18/2004 4:35:00 PM PDT by vanderleun

THE REALLY AWFUL THING ABOUT AMY RICHARDS TALE AS TOLD TO AMY BARRETT in The New York Times Lives: When One Is Enough is that Amy Richards put her name on her shameful tale of selfishness.

"I found out I was having triplets when I went to my obstetrician. The doctor had just finished telling me I was going to have a low-risk pregnancy. She turned on the sonogram machine. There was a long pause, then she said, ''Are you sure you didn't take fertility drugs?'' I said, ''I'm positive.'' Peter and I were very shocked when she said there were three. ''You know, this changes everything,'' she said. ''You'll have to see a specialist.''

"My immediate response was, I cannot have triplets. I was not married; I lived in a five-story walk-up in the East Village; I worked freelance; and I would have to go on bed rest in March. I lecture at colleges, and my biggest months are March and April. I would have to give up my main income for the rest of the year. There was a part of me that was sure I could work around that. But it was a matter of, Do I want to?"

The self-centered Ms. Richards who writes an advice column for, of course, feminist.com and has published a book called: Manifesta: Young Women Feminism and the Future, elects to undergo what is coyly titled "selective reduction." This is a nice term for the killing of one or more multiple babies in the womb. As the article puts it, "The obstetrician wasn't an expert in selective reduction, but she knew that with a shot of potassium chloride you could eliminate one or more."

When the time came to pick one, it was fraught with the pathetic little drama that so often overtakes these young members of our intellectual classes in urban areas:

The specialist called me back at 10 p.m. I had just finished watching a Boston Pops concert at Symphony Hall. As everybody burst into applause, I watched my cellphone vibrating, grabbed it and ran into the lobby. He told me that he does a detailed sonogram before doing a selective reduction to see if one fetus appears to be struggling. The procedure involves a shot of potassium chloride to the heart of the fetus. There are a lot more complications when a woman carries multiples. And so, from the doctor's perspective, it's a matter of trying to save the woman this trauma. After I talked to the specialist, I told Peter, ''That's what I'm going to do.'' He replied, ''What we're going to do.'' He respected what I was going through, but at a certain point, he felt that this was a decision we were making. I agreed.
Hard to imagine if "Peter the Boyfriend" would have had much of a future with this woman if he'd piped up to say, "Maybe it isn't such a good idea to kill off two of my children." He'd be history and Amy would be wrapped in the arms of the sisterhood at feminist.com. But then again, if he was that kind of a man he wouldn't be with this kind of a woman.

The climax of this sordid little drama is delivered as casually as the rest of the entire episode:

When we saw the specialist, we found out that I was carrying identical twins and a stand alone. My doctors thought the stand alone was three days older. There was something psychologically comforting about that, since I wanted to have just one. Before the procedure, I was focused on relaxing. But Peter was staring at the sonogram screen thinking: Oh, my gosh, there are three heartbeats. I can't believe we're about to make two disappear. The doctor came in, and then Peter was asked to leave. I said, ''Can Peter stay?'' The doctor said no. I know Peter was offended by that.
Offended? By being denied the right to be present at the execution of two of his children? Why should a man so lacking in manhood be offended? He probably made a face and then beat it to a bar, glad he'd gotten off easy, once again.

Then again, he missed the central life experience of "making two heartbeats disappear." Never a rose without a thorn.

The story, from Amy's point of view, has a happy, almost Hollywood ending, complete with a whiff of false remorse and guilt:

I went on to have a pretty seamless pregnancy. But I had a recurring feeling that this was going to come back and haunt me. Was I going to have a stillbirth or miscarry late in my pregnancy?

I had a boy, and everything is fine. But thinking about becoming pregnant again is terrifying. Am I going to have quintuplets? I would do the same thing if I had triplets again, but if I had twins, I would probably have twins. Then again, I don't know. Well, it certainly good to know that 'everything is fine' and that there is a boy survivor in the world. But it is not so good to know that Ms. Richards only took from this experience what she brought into it -- nihilism, selfishness, and an ego much bigger than her sense.

She's the very essence of the Modern Feminist of the Future, all me and no see. Triplets, no. Twins, maybe -- but maybe not.

Michelle Malkin who pointed this story out comments: " So she's terrified? I can only imagine how her surviving son will feel when he grows up and learns about the fate of his siblings."

I don't. There's nothing in Ms. Richards' character that makes me think she'll have the guts to tell him about it. I realize that means that I believe she'll finally develop a sense of shame about what she did, but I believe even the most vapid among us can grow a real moral sense. At least, that's my hope.


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To: Vigilanteman

She lives in NYC. I know of at least five wonderful women who would make excellent nannies, myself included. This act is the pinnacle of selfishness.


81 posted on 07/19/2004 7:19:12 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: vanderleun

Well if she is selfish so are women who use all forms of birth control. They are making sure their lifestyle is better than it otherwise would be. It's the same thing.


82 posted on 07/19/2004 7:24:53 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: vanderleun

I know someone who had this done after she underwent invitro and conceived triplets. She had two boys,and wonders if she would have had a girl.

I was pro-abortion before I had kids, and afterwards I became against it.

I have twins, so I know that there are choices to be made in a multiple pregnancy. If you do conceive higher order multiples, you may have to reduce the number of fetuses in order for the others to survive. That would be a very difficult choice. Also, in multiple pregnancy sometimes there is a sick baby that drains everything from the stronger babies. If they keep both babies, they will both die. If they kill one, they may be able to save the other.

Also, I know that higher order multiples can kill the mother.

That said, most of this does not happen with triplets, and I think it is wrong to take a babies life to make it "easier" on the parents.

If there is a medical condition, I wouldn't want to be put in that situation. I'd support parents for whatever choice they made, and I would recognize that it is a difficult choice. I don't even know what I would do in the same situation.

Having twins is hard enough. I had contractions at 13 weeks, and was on complete bedrest in the hospital by 25 weeks. There are also issues with blood pressure, diabetes that just get complicated with a multiple pregnancy. I can't imagine having any more babies than the 2 I had.


83 posted on 07/19/2004 7:32:46 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: snowstorm12

You don't see the difference between using BC to prevent a pregnancy and having abortions?


84 posted on 07/19/2004 7:33:43 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: vanderleun

Of course, having them and then giving the two (or better yet all three)up for adoption would never have crossed this self-centered B***h's mind.


85 posted on 07/19/2004 7:38:32 PM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: texasflower

Me too.


86 posted on 07/19/2004 7:39:02 PM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: cyborg

Well I don't see much of a difference. If the pro-choice people think embryos are the morally equivalent to sperm and egg, then to them there is no difference. Both acts are preventing pregnancy and the results are the same. I think when stem cell research using embryos cures major diseases it will be the final coup de grace and opposition to abortion and embryos experimentation will dwindle over time. That is my prediction.


87 posted on 07/19/2004 7:49:48 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: Ohioan from Florida

This is what I sent her:

I read about you having a "reduction" to get rid of 2 of the 3 of your babies.

As a reformed hard core feminist and pro choicer I hope that you soon come to realize just how stupid and destructive feminism is.

You are also so obviously self centered that you never would have considered to have all three of the children and put them ALL up for adoption. After all, if 3 will disrupt your life, 1 will as well. And you are unfit to be a mother at all.

Consider this. Suppose your own mother had been pregnant with twins but she wanted only 1 child. And you were the one chosen to be "reduced".

You need to be de programmed. Tammy Bruce is all so correct in her books


88 posted on 07/19/2004 7:53:47 PM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: snowstorm12
Well if she is selfish so are women who use all forms of birth control. They are making sure their lifestyle is better than it otherwise would be. It's the same thing.

You've accidentally backed into a fundamental truth. You are truly sophomoric, I think.

Teddy Roosevelt on the family and planned barrenhood:

On motherhood as the true source of progress, Teddy Roosevelt said:

"A more supreme instance of unselfishness than is afforded by motherhood cannot be imagined."

Before an audience of liberal Christian theologians in 1911, he said:

"If you do not believe in your own stock enough to see the stock kept up, then you are not good Americans, you are not patriots, and ... I for one shall not mourn your extinction; and in such event I shall welcome the advent of a new race that will take your place, because you wil have shown that you are not fit to cumber the ground."

On the centrality of the child-rich family to the very existence of the American nation:

"It is in the life of the family, upon which in the last analysis the whole welfare of the nation rests....The nation is nothing but the aggregate of the families within its borders."

On parenthood:

"No other success in life, not being President, or being wealthy, or going to college, or anything else, comes up to the success of the man and woman who can feel that they have done their duty and that their children and grandchildren rise up to call them blessed."

On out-of-wedlock birth versus practiced sterility:

"After all, such a vice may be compatible with a nation's continuing to live, and while there is life, even a life marred by wrong practices, there is a chance of reform.

In another place, on the same subject:

"...[W]hile there is life, there is hope, whereas nothing can be done with the dead."

On the behavior of 90% of those who practice birth control:

"[It is derived] from viciousness, coldness, shallow-heartedness, self-indulgence, or mere failure to appreciate aright the difference between the all-important and the unimportant."

On the "pitiable" child-rearing record of graduates of women's colleges like Vassar and Smith who bore only 0.86 of a child each during their lifetimes:

"Do these colleges teach 'domestic science'?... There is something radically wrong with the home training and school training that produces such results."
89 posted on 07/19/2004 8:09:49 PM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: Guenevere

Maybe it should have been titled When (Killing) One Baby Isn't Enough.


90 posted on 07/19/2004 8:12:27 PM PDT by Critter (...an online gathering place for sissy boy, girlie men, nanny staters.)
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To: FrankWild

Condi Rice is pro-abortion? Do you have any reference materials to back this up?


91 posted on 07/19/2004 8:28:58 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: fortunecookie

I'm with you!
Not humans? NOT HUMANS??
We need ultrasound to prove that fetuses are human?
WHEN in the history of mankind has a human woman ever been pregnant with, or given birth to, anything OTHER than a human baby??
It can't be anything else!


92 posted on 07/19/2004 8:41:33 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam...it's about Islam.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
We need ultrasound to prove that fetuses are human? WHEN in the history of mankind has a human woman ever been pregnant with, or given birth to, anything OTHER than a human baby?? It can't be anything else!

Absolutely!! Excellent point. It does seem ludacris to entertain for even a moment that we might have to prove such a thing.

Humans give birth to humans. Simple. That's why their rhetoric and outright lies have to be shouted and forceful, lest 'we' realize the truth and gravity of the situation. It's become a huge industry and the shareholders don't want to lose on their investment. Thankfully, the internet and new technology help more and more people see what should have been obvious all along - they are little humans.

93 posted on 07/19/2004 8:53:29 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: headsonpikes; *Death Cultivation; AAABEST; AdamSelene235; AnnaZ; Askel5; backhoe; BlackElk; ...
Thanks for the ping. I've been following the story on blogs all day.

One offbeat reaction was by a commenter (at Michel Malkin's blog) who wrote:

For my part, as you might imagine, I would expect the Amy Richards of the world would not be merely engaging in misdirection. Anti-human elitist's would have no qualms about staging a pretense that they are participating in reducing their own posterity in the hopes that the fools they mislead will actually follow their example.

If I'm right, maybe this is the natural selection aspect of such behavior coming out? For I doubt I'd be the only observer to suggest that the NYTimes would be aping the behavior of that MTV show (?) that suggested stupid ideas in the hopes some jackass would actually perform the stunts on camera. (Anybody know the actual name that show?)

Well, if Holley is right -- and even if she's not -- add the NYTimes as now most certainly the latest venue for outrageously misleading our young.

94 posted on 07/19/2004 11:09:39 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
What about this deadbeat boyfriend who knocked her up and then refused to marry her and provide a decent living so that she would not have to kill their other two children....

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Where in the story does it read that she wanted to marry him, that he refused her, that he's a deadbeat? You are projecting. It is clear in the story that the decision was hers alone. The weak Peter just caved to what she asserted were her solitary rights.

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Doesn't it appear that perhaps she would have had the triplets if she had not been worried about providing for them and raising them alone in a five-story walkup apartment?

No. It does appear clear that if having even one of the three impacted her lower east side pseudo-bohemian lifestyle then all three would have enjoyed the potassium chloride hit. To people like her (and NYC has too many of them---almost all transplants from fly-over) a fifth floor walk up on the lower east side is exactly what they want...it supports their self image.

96 posted on 07/20/2004 5:30:26 AM PDT by wtc911 (moderate islam is the swamp where evil festers)
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To: freedumb2003

I don't know how to set up links but I found the thread in my history. This woman is hideous. I wonder how happy her child will be when he finds out that she killed his two womb-mates.


97 posted on 07/20/2004 7:49:46 AM PDT by grellis (QUEEN OF THE DORKS)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
At the NYT, you don't have to read the obits to see thanatos celebrated!
98 posted on 07/20/2004 9:14:01 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: grellis

If you would just right-click on the post number, then select "Copy shortcut" then pase (ctl-v) into a reply.

Thanks so much if you can do that.


99 posted on 07/20/2004 12:51:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: freedumb2003
I wish I could help you, please believe me, but you lost me somewhere back at "If." I grow turnips that are more computer savvy than I.

When I get a chance tonight, however, I'll give it a whirl.

100 posted on 07/20/2004 2:34:48 PM PDT by grellis (QUEEN OF THE DORKS)
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