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Muslims say fellow Americans are lashing out
Chicago Tribune ^ | 7-16-04 | Geneive Abdo

Posted on 07/18/2004 6:48:58 AM PDT by veronica

Law-enforcement officials in the U.S. say they've seen an increase in hate crimes as Muslims grapple with harassment believed to have been prompted by beheadings in Iraq, Saudi Arabia

Through all the tense moments since the Sept. 11 attacks, Samar Jarrah thought her small Islamic community in Port Charlotte, Fla., had remained at peace with its non-Muslim neighbors.

The town's Muslim doctors often treat homeless and impoverished immigrants free of charge. And Jarrah went out of her way to teach residents about Islam, sometimes giving talks two or three times a week in synagogues and churches.

But three weeks ago, a caller left a message on the mosque's answering machine at the Islamic Community of Southwest Florida, shattering the perception of harmony with the community: "You barbarians. Lucky to be alive." Then the caller warned that if any attacks occurred in the United States, he would retaliate.

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To: veronica

Crank calls, graffitti, and moronic notes taped to a mailbox are the "hate crimes" the author alludes to. Color me unimpressed . . .

I don't see any mosques burning. To call these incidents "hate crimes" further dilutes the definition of an already questionable phrase.


21 posted on 07/18/2004 7:05:46 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: martin_fierro
She ought to spend the remaining 4-5 days of the week teaching nonviolence to her fellow Muslims.... Good luck with that one... /sarcam "... you must asimilate ... " " ... resistance is futile ..."
22 posted on 07/18/2004 7:07:53 AM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: BibChr

These "Islamic communities" are scattered all over Florida, in the most unlikely little towns - probably many of them were established by Sami Al Arian's group, which certainly established those that are at Florida universities.

They seem to be buying up little churches and turning them into mosques, which I assume is mostly a symbolic gesture. It's hard to imagine that these small towns even have a Muslim population. But it's rather unnerving to drive by some isolated little white building that had probably formerly been a Pentecostal church and see the inevitably green Arabic writing over the doorway.


23 posted on 07/18/2004 7:08:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: mtbopfuyn
Of course hate crimes are wrong...

Aren't all crimes "hate crimes?" When was the last time you heard a perp say that he broke into a house, tied up the owners, and then robbed them of their valuables because he loved them?

24 posted on 07/18/2004 7:08:56 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
It is very bad, look how many moon rock cult members have been beheaded in America.

Exactly!

I have a brother in India who was marveling at the religious tolerence there.
I had to remind him that I've never heard of a baptist killing a protestant here in greenville!

America is the land of tolerance

25 posted on 07/18/2004 7:09:13 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: veronica

Huge muslim population in Chicago, so of course, they'd print this whether they have facts or not.

I'm not buying it.

However, I can't say it won't be coming if they continue to harbor terrorists.


26 posted on 07/18/2004 7:10:42 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: livius

I'm frankly depressed to see signs in ANY language other than English here in the USA, always have been.

But yep, Arabic would bother me in a specific way. Particularly in a town with which I have any "history."

Dan


27 posted on 07/18/2004 7:11:28 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Reactionary
""Hate crime," huh? Is that when the government punishes you for having the "wrong" ideas? Thought crime is more like it." That's the point of "Hate crime" legislation.If your crime is politically incorrect, it deserves worse punishment. If your crime is politically correct,(ie:eco-terrorism) you get a slap on the wrist.After all, who cares that logging companies have their equipment vandalized and destroyed, or a few new homes under construction are blasted by arsonists. Their crimes are hardly newsworthy in the mainstream press. And of course, the Islamic terrorists have a "culture" that is compatible with American values. Like Liberty and Justice for ALL!
28 posted on 07/18/2004 7:12:10 AM PDT by dAnconia ("An honest man knows he cannot consume what he has not produced.")
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To: TomGuy

Solid thinking. Have you seen my rant on border control?


29 posted on 07/18/2004 7:13:23 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: veronica
“...They think Islam is a pagan religion. ...”

Islam IS a pagan religion. Mohammed wanted a way to unite the Arabs under his control so he could conquer Arabia and then the world. He realized “creating” a religion that granted booty to his rapacious, murderous horde was a way to do so. He simply picked al-lah, the moon god from the pagan pantheon of gods and only decided to have one god to lull the Jews and Christians into believing he worshiped God.

"The beheadings seem to be a deciding factor," said Kareem Irfan, head of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago. "People who have been sitting on the fence now say, `I have made up my mind. Muslims around us somehow have to be tied in with this ideology.' Even among people who have wanted to have an open mind, for them, it is becoming more difficult. And these are the people we need the most."

This sort of statement by Irfan shows how cynical Mohammedans are. There has been no condemnation of the atrocities committed by Mohammedans around the world. Rather there has been celebration of many of those atrocities, such as the homocide bombers in Israel, in mosques in the United States. These people have had ample opportunity to show us they are with us – but they have not. They have, by their inaction and inability to speak out against atrocities – and their audacity to complain about non-Mohammedans being concerned as to which side they are on – how proven they support the terrorists.

30 posted on 07/18/2004 7:14:13 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: ovrtaxt
I wonder why?

31 posted on 07/18/2004 7:15:55 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

All true...fine post


32 posted on 07/18/2004 7:16:22 AM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: veronica
The town's Muslim doctors often treat homeless and impoverished immigrants free of charge. And Jarrah went out of her way to teach residents about Islam...

How nice of them. I would be much more impressed if these peace loving Islamics stepped forward and unequivacally and unconditionally denounced 09.11, the beheadings, AQ, Hammas, and Moslem terrorism in general, without including explainations, justifications, excuses, buts, and other not so subtle innuendo blaming America and the Jeeeooooows for the underlying cause of every act of terrorism.

33 posted on 07/18/2004 7:18:46 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: dagoofyfoot

Perhaps if they were to do as the 44Duce Combat Regiment of WWII.


34 posted on 07/18/2004 7:20:36 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: veronica
Allot of these muslims and like the liberals.

They are in America for all the good things: free speech, liberties, standard of living, opportunities, etc.

After they 'get their piece of the pie', they or their offsprings want to change America into the kind of place they came to America to escape from.

Many of libs advocate a Marxist-type America. They forget that the concept didn't work in Euro-Asia. Many of their ancestors fled the Marxist Euro-Asian dictatorships and sought out a new life in America.

Many of the muslims/Islamics advocate an Islamic state/Islamic laws in America. Many of their ancestors fled the Islamofanatical regimes and dictatorships in the Middle East and sought out new life in America.

Ironic, isn't it. They want to change America from what their ancestors fled TO into what their ancestors fled FROM.
35 posted on 07/18/2004 7:21:42 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: mylife
I have a brother in India who was marveling at the religious tolerence there. I had to remind him that I've never heard of a baptist killing a protestant here in greenville!

America is the land of tolerance


Careful. Our own US history shows that religions, foreign nationals, races, haven't always been in an atmosphere of tolerance. Remember that the Mormons were literally driven to Utah by intolerance. Look at how many other groups have suffered intolerance during our history.
36 posted on 07/18/2004 7:28:53 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I hear a lot of these accusations of almost atrocities, hard looks and empty threats. It serves to remind me that Muslims can protest the beheading and slaughter of their fellow Americans any time they wish, their ability to protest is not broken.

Perhaps someday they even will...


37 posted on 07/18/2004 7:29:55 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: BibChr
I'm frankly depressed to see signs in ANY language other than English here in the USA, always have been

Along the same lines I get irritated with some flag flying displays.

I don't know if it happens other close to the border areas, but an annoying number of places out here in the SEattle area fly the US flag, the WA state flag, and the Canadian flag. It has to be some stupid symbol of multinational solidarity or something. This is NOT Canada dammit.

38 posted on 07/18/2004 7:33:14 AM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: martin_fierro

That's what we call prostelytizing.
How convenient that these "churches" allowed that in their houses of worship.


39 posted on 07/18/2004 7:33:22 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: martin_fierro

You gotta know it to teach it.


40 posted on 07/18/2004 7:34:10 AM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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