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Americans Say Iraq War Not Worth It -LA Times Poll
Yahoo News ^ | 12th june 04 | Reuters

Posted on 06/12/2004 3:34:58 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A majority of U.S. voters now say it was not worth going to war in Iraq and feel the United States is getting bogged down there, according to a Los Angeles Times poll published on Friday.

In the survey of 1,230 registered voters conducted across the country from Saturday through Tuesday, 53 percent said it was not worth going to war in Iraq while 43 percent said it was and 4 percent said they did not know. The sample has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The paper said the survey was the first time one of its voter surveys found a majority of voters doubting whether the situation in Iraq was worth the United States going to war there.

In a March L.A. Times survey 53 percent of voters said the war was worth fighting and 43 percent said it was not, a reverse of the current figure.

The paper said that 35 percent of American voters thought the United States was making good progress in Iraq while 61 percent said the country was getting bogged down there.

But 52 percent of voters said that they thought the United States was winning the war in Iraq and less than one in four said the insurgents were winning.

Despite a growing sense that the war was not justified, voters did not advocate a quick pullout of Iraq.

Less than 20 percent said America should withdraw its troops within weeks. Seventy-three percent said that there should be no specific date for withdrawal because disorder and civil war could result.

Fifty-five percent of voters said they disapproved of President Bush's handling of the war, while 44 percent approved.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: america; bush; ccrm; iraq; la; lat; latimes; paper; poll; pollsoniraq; terrorism; us; war; worth
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To: F14 Pilot
If I may edit this story in the interest of accuracy

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A majority of U.S.(democrat) voters now say it was not worth going to war in Iraq and feel the United States is getting bogged down there, according to a Los Angeles Times poll published on Friday.

In the survey of 1,230 registered(democrat) voters conducted across the country from Saturday through Tuesday, 53 percent said it was not worth going to war in Iraq while 43 percent said it was and 4 percent said they did not know. The sample has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The paper said the survey was(not) the first time one of its (democrat) voter surveys found a majority of (democrat) voters doubting whether the situation in Iraq was worth the United States going to war there.

In a March L.A. Times survey 53 percent of (democrat) voters said the war was worth fighting and 43 percent said it was not, a reverse of the current figure.

The paper said that 35 percent of American democrat voters thought the United States was making good progress in Iraq while 61 percent said the country was getting bogged down there.

But 52 percent of (democrat) voters said that they thought the United States was winning the war in Iraq and less than one in four said the insurgents were winning.

Despite A growing sense that the war was not justified, (democrat) voters did not advocate a quick pullout of Iraq.

Less than 20 percent (the enlightened) said America should withdraw its troops within weeks. Seventy-three percent said that there should be no specific date for withdrawal because disorder and civil war could result.

Fifty-five percent of (the very best sort of) voters said they disapproved of President Bush's handling of the war, while 44 percent approved(but we pay no attention to them as they are mouth breathers).



There. That's better.

41 posted on 06/12/2004 7:52:52 AM PDT by Valin (Hatred is the coward's revenge)
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To: F14 Pilot

Left Coast Poll - Feel Good Poll - probably conducted during working hours only:)


42 posted on 06/12/2004 7:58:06 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: The Other Harry

Why do you say that?


43 posted on 06/12/2004 7:58:54 AM PDT by Valin (Hatred is the coward's revenge)
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To: elhombrelibre

For me it all came into perspective seeing the interim Iraqi President sitting down with President Bush. By the way who is the President of Kosovo and Bosnia?


44 posted on 06/12/2004 8:01:25 AM PDT by Gkubly
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To: F14 Pilot

This is something Dubya will have to address in his campaign and he should be able too. Hopefully, he doesn't make the mistake his dad did and expect the press to describe what is occurring in the economy & the war on terror accurately.


45 posted on 06/12/2004 8:04:28 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Physicist
Its gone badly.

Compared to what?

Yes, I would like to know that too? It's been a year and here we are ready to hand the country back to it's citizens...we've lost nearly 1,000 men to fight a war that could easily have been fought in our own country and many many more would have been lost!!

IMO TWOT is going extremely well considering where it could be fought and how many lives could be lost at this juncture.

For those of you who just don't understand the reality we face think about this: We are fighting an enemy who would rather die than live while taking as many innocents with them as they possibly can...and the further we can keep them away, the better.

The liberal media does not want the people of this country to realize what we are facing so they try to turn our attention to trivilized and trumped stories that would take us away from our goals...

That's why Reagan was so great, he knew the consequences of communism and did not vere from defeating it...we can not afford not too fight.

46 posted on 06/12/2004 8:07:09 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: F14 Pilot

Are these the same LA Times pollsters who came up with a poll showing Kerry with a sizable lead by making sure that they asked 13% more dims than pubs?

And then, according to Brit, said it was ridiculous to take political affiliation into account in these polls.


47 posted on 06/12/2004 8:07:58 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: F14 Pilot
POLL FINDS LA TIMES NOT WORTH IT

Dateline - California

In a poll conducted by Freeper Michael.SF, of two of his relatives in LA, confirms that 100% of those surveyed have canceled their subscriptions to the LA TIMES. One respondent said "That paper is not good enough to line a dog cage with."

48 posted on 06/12/2004 8:20:03 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ('President Reagan has died, but don't lower the flag until we have too'.....DNC)
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To: F14 Pilot

The LAT runs the most blatantly rigged "polls" in the country. Their "polls" had Gray Davis up over Arnold a week before the election.


49 posted on 06/12/2004 8:21:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: F14 Pilot
It was the Clinton administration that lived and breathed by polls - the Bush administration could care less as they seem to know how to run the country without a LA Times etc. poll. This is just the media/press trying to run the election along with the War on Terrorism – more and more people across this great land are just going on IGNORE when it comes to CNNABCCBSNBC with their biased anchors and news reporters.

Stay with FOX and Free Republic for truth and fact.
DON’T LET THE MEDIA PROPAGANDA RUN THIS ELECTION OR THE WAR IN IRAQ!

DAMN THE POLLS! FULL STEAM AHEAD! GEORGE BUSH IN 04!!

50 posted on 06/12/2004 8:57:12 AM PDT by yoe
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To: F14 Pilot
The paper said that 35 percent of American voters thought the United States was making good progress in Iraq while 61 percent said the country was getting bogged down there.

But 52 percent of voters said that they thought the United States was winning the war in Iraq and less than one in four said the insurgents were winning.

These two figures show that the respondents don't understand the virtue of patience. By a small majority, people think we are winning, but by a larger majority, they think we are "bogged down." In other words, at least 9 percent and maybe more think we are both winning and getting bogged down. Admittedly, we could be winning faster if we'd stop worrying about hurting civilians and just kill the terrorists faster. Personally, I would favor that course of action. However, we're taking a more careful approach that is slower and leading to the what we hope will be the same victory.

One More Tribute (to President Reagan)
Bill

51 posted on 06/12/2004 9:00:34 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: WFTR

Interesting I believe factual on polling.
This morning I called my father and asked him why is it that the polls always get more libs but I have never been polled in my life? My father hesitated and then responded, "well you haven't figured that one out yet?". My response was,"I guess not". My father asked me,"what do you do Mon-Fri. 6:30am-7:30pm?". I responded,"I get my child ready for school or daycare, my wife gets ready for work, she goes to work, I take my child and then I go to work, get my child, come home and eat some dinner". He said,"You do what most people do all day". He then said,"during these times are you hanging around malls or available near your phone for calls". I responded,"no". He said,"You just answered your own question but I'll let you figure out the rest". He did go on to say,"No matter what, most libs don't even show up at election because their lives consist of moving, never registering or changing addresses or when the time comes they just really could care less". The point of this is polls are irrelevant and even if partially correct don't make the outcome of an election.


52 posted on 06/12/2004 9:21:21 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: F14 Pilot

nah


53 posted on 06/12/2004 9:25:11 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: yoe

Yeah... But if you had any sense you would realize that it is stupid to try and win this election solely on fighting terrorism and the war in Iraq. Regardless of the supposed inaccuracy of the LA Times (which may very well be true), it is obvious that support for the War has been dropping significantly. If the war in Iraq is the only thing Bush focuses on, he will lose. Unfortunately for him, he's already screwed up on domestic policy (immigration, spending, gun control, etc.)


54 posted on 06/12/2004 9:39:59 AM PDT by GoldenStateConservative
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To: F14 Pilot
Not worth it does not equal not justified. And certainly does not equal not winning. People know that it was justified and that we are winning. But it isn't over, so they have the perception "bogged down". And nobody does such things because it is "worth it". They do them because the alternatives are worse. Just tendentious questions.
55 posted on 06/12/2004 10:06:19 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: GoldenStateConservative
Oh horsefeathers. The main domestic issue is the economy, where Bush delivered tax cuts that in turn produced revived economic growth. The other major issues the Dems wanted to use were health care and education. He passed major consensus legislation on both. The reason the Dems are going kamikaze hysterical over Iraq is because they can't run on the economy, as they wanted to as recently as a year ago.

And all they have on Iraq is hysteria. We face no prospect of actually losing there. During the April upsurge in fighting they managed to make some people think so. But there is nothing on the ground to back it up, and it can't last. The sky they said was falling is not going to fall. Shia are not going to follow Sadr to suicide; there is no civil war; there will be an Iraqi government that wants us there, in November.

56 posted on 06/12/2004 10:11:10 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: F14 Pilot

The people they asked were typical Left Angeles Slimes readin' liberals, who swallow all the lies like they were a big juicy sirlon.

Sorry I forgot these are liberals! .....who swallow the lies like tasty juicy tofu.


Used to have a bumper sticker that read: "Read the Times, Read the Lies!"


57 posted on 06/12/2004 10:28:36 AM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment)
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To: GoldenStateConservative

Ohh La La - see post #52 - the President has not, as you so succinctly put it, screwed up on domestic policy, even his immigration policy deserves your careful scrutiny rather than parroting the usual pap.


58 posted on 06/12/2004 5:43:19 PM PDT by yoe
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To: JasonC

"... health care and education. He passed major consensus legislation on both."

Thank you so much for reminding me -- I, for a mere second, began to forget that our president pushed for the largest expansion of an entitlement program since LBJ. The medicare bill was when I began to lose trust in President Bush. PLEASE do not even try to make that a great domestic accomplishement.

As for the tax cuts, I couldn't agree with you more. Tax cuts are good. Traditionally, though, one would expect that, in giving more money back to the people, you would also have to take that money away from somewhere, namely, the government. Instead we saw a 31% increase in domestic discretionary spending. I support the tax cuts. But from this conservative's point of view, such an outrageous increase in government spending eliminates all bragging rights that Bush would have had for the tax cuts.

"There will be an Iraqi government that wants us there, in November."

Maybe true. Regardless, Iraq has, for the Bush administration, been one embarassment after another. It is not a strong campaign issue. He has to push something else. But from what I've been seeing, he has been stubbornly insisting on making terrorism his key campaign issue. I admit that I'm not an expert, but from my perspective, this is a bad decision on his part.


59 posted on 06/12/2004 7:23:48 PM PDT by GoldenStateConservative
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To: yoe

As much as I'd like to agree with you, I just can't. He has majorly screwed up on domestic policy. I praise him for the tax cuts, but as I said in the above post, his failure to control spending and government growth is a bigger problem for this country in the long run.

I know that this topic isn't the place for a discussion on immigration. But I will say that I have carefully evaluated his policy, which is why I find it so appalling. I had great expectations for President Bush, but he has been a great dissappointment.

That being said, I would much rather have him in office than Kerry, which is why I strongly urge his campaign to focus on issues other than the war in Iraq.


60 posted on 06/12/2004 7:32:19 PM PDT by GoldenStateConservative
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