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REAGAN-LIKE LANDSLIDE EYED
New York Post ^ | 6/10/04 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 06/10/2004 12:19:49 AM PDT by kattracks

June 10, 2004 -- NOW is a good time to look back at the landslide win that sent Ronald Reagan to the White House in 1980, because lots of analysts think 2004 could turn out the same way — close for a long time and then suddenly breaking wide open. In 1980, the break came just days before the vote, when Democrat Jimmy Carter finally agreed to debate. Reagan came off as sunny instead of scary and when he admonished Carter with a smile, "There you go again," it was all over.

Like President Bush, Carter faced voters nervous over both the economy and foreign policy and wondering whether it's time for a change — in Carter's case, skyrocketing inflation at home plus the endless Iran hostage crisis.

But there's a big difference, since Carter kept getting bad news on both fronts, while Bush is starting to get good news on both the economy, with a surge in new jobs, and Iraq, with international support for the June 30 transfer of power.


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To: counterpunch
From a neurral point of view Islam may be the true religion, or Bhuddism may be the true approach(it is not a religion) or any other. In world history Torah carried a moral system adhered to by a tiny number of people in a corner of the known world that spread over the world through the Jewish offshoot christianity. That Judaic morality is the reason that Chriatians and Jews built World Trade that worked across all religions and societies. One can be an atheist and presume that Torah was just a set of myths of an obscure tribe and still understand that as that set of myths came to be shared by major populations that group became economically dominant. In fact, Christendom without the Jews would have gone far longer without the economic burgeoning because Christians had a limited understanding of the permissibility of Interest.

The Jews who were not allowed to own land developed trade, partly because they understood that the ban on interest was meant to apply to the strictures on lending money that does not increase, that goes to feed someone.

Investment is different. It is working money and charity does not pertain in its use. The only reason to provide capital is gain. Without capital there is no economic development. The Christians followed the lead of the Jews and the modern world was born. An atheist society cannot survive except as a totalitarianism. It cannot prosper in a modern sense except as it copies practices of a prosperous, thus Judaeo Christian society.

161 posted on 06/10/2004 7:15:16 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Dont Mention the War
I want them mad.

The Dems are ALWAYS mad at something.

162 posted on 06/10/2004 7:15:52 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Texasforever

did Dole ever lead Clinton in ANY poll in '96?


163 posted on 06/10/2004 7:16:23 AM PDT by jern
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To: Freesofar
No sane person with a measurable IQ can vote for Kerry, IMO

Then how do you account for all of those Gore votes?

164 posted on 06/10/2004 7:16:29 AM PDT by AmusedBystander
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To: Gulf War One
The DC rumor mill lends some validity to your fear of scandal, but from what I'm hearing, it will break hard against Kerry, as certain things surface, including round two of the affair story.

I wish the assasination plot story would break.

165 posted on 06/10/2004 7:16:40 AM PDT by alnick (Goodbye, Mr. President.)
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To: kattracks

If our economy is up; and situation in Iraq better; W s optimism will win out over Kerry s pesimism and sad-sack face. No doubt about it!


166 posted on 06/10/2004 7:19:11 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Hostile

I've noticed gas prices have started dropping in my area. Bad news for any Democrats pushing that issue.


167 posted on 06/10/2004 7:19:22 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Rest in Peace, Mr. President!)
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To: counterpunch

Germany was a Christian culture that was taken over by an atheist regime. Adolph was not Christian and was specifically antiChristian. He desired to replace Christianity with Gemanic paganism. The Christian background of the German people produced the economic prosperity that allowed the existence of a country that could be exploited for conquest by a tyrant.


168 posted on 06/10/2004 7:22:13 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: kattracks

President Bush WILL win....bank on it! The rats will be on suicide watch election night!! :)


169 posted on 06/10/2004 7:22:34 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: counterpunch
YES! I am one of those voters!

Me too, that's why I always bring that up. I was a registered republican before then, but I was apolitical. Sometimes I voted, sometimes I didn't. I didn't really think there was very much difference between the parties.

My outrage at the total corruption of the democrat party is still boiling, and as a result of their display during the recounts, I became a hardcore, broken-glass republican.

Like you, I cannot believe I'm an exception.

170 posted on 06/10/2004 7:22:43 AM PDT by alnick (Goodbye, Mr. President.)
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To: kattracks
But there's a big difference, since Carter kept getting bad news on both fronts, while Bush is starting to get good news on both the economy, with a surge in new jobs, and Iraq, with international support for the June 30 transfer of power.

Unfortunately, the good work we do in Iraq bores most Americans, and so the media will broadcast the bad stuff, because we find that more interesting.

If Iraq blows wide open after June 30th, Bush will be in trouble. I know I'm not the only one who thinks Iraq is just a simmering Yugoslavia.

This is not meant to be racist (although because I just said that, that automatically means it will be considered racist, lol), but most of those people understand one thing - force. There is also a lot of religious hatred that Saddam kept under check through fear and force. That's why we've had problems, many Iraqis never felt they were really defeated. That's why if the Iraqi gov't is considered to be weak after June 30th, there will be serious problems. Even the Kurds, our best friends and allies in that area, are already grumbling about potential problems.

I'm hoping that the worst doesn't happen. I may not be 100% happy with Bush, but I sure as hell don't want the alternative.

171 posted on 06/10/2004 7:25:22 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Gumdrop

There will be NO good news for Bush. The news is no longer driven by events, it is driven by politics. The partisan media will continue to craft the news by using any of the following techniques: 1) Report the bad news even if you have to recycle it again and again and again, i.e. the Aba Daba Doo prison freternity prank (read abuse)scandal; 2) the use of the "But technique" for example, the employment numbers were up today, BUT bad bad bad bad bad bad and more bad; 3) Change the subject to the next scandal or piece of bad news, economy going well, lets talk about Iraq, Iraq going well, lets talk about who leaked that Valerie Plame was a CIA operative after her husband had already done so; and finally, 4) the old poll game, i.e. lets talk about the latest poll we slanted as if it were news.


172 posted on 06/10/2004 7:26:50 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: counterpunch
The Spanish Inquisition, which was not of the Church, but was a national phenomenon, did not set out to eliminate any group of people. Its target was not the Jews and open Jews did not come under its operations. Neither did Moslems. The Inquisition's targets were heretic and apostate Christian. Several hundreds died from its ministrations over the centuries.

The Crusades were historically defensive in nature in that Islam was still expanding and had conquered the Holy Land of theChristian lands. The Crusades arose immediately from the perceived necessity to keep the Holy Places open to pilgrims. Pilgrimage was once almost as important to Christians as it is for Moslems. Added to that was the constant piracy of the Moslem states which was deemed as needing to be stopped. The effects of the fighting were the effects of fighting as it occured in the middle ages everywhere and still occur in Asia, i.e. wholesale slaughter for those who resist.

173 posted on 06/10/2004 7:31:56 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Sane people? Look at the number of jackasses who voted for Al Gore.

We can't ever forget that more voters voted for Gore than Bush in 2000.

174 posted on 06/10/2004 7:32:29 AM PDT by Modernman (It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gumdrop
If our economy is up; and situation in Iraq better; W s optimism will win out over Kerry s pesimism and sad-sack face.

The ecomomy is already up - way up. The situation in Iraq is already better.

This election will turn on events yet to happen and Al Quaeda will play a role.

175 posted on 06/10/2004 7:33:08 AM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: FreedomPoster
Bush in the flight suit, Kerry in bicycle shorts.

Our side should be putting out a poster with those two pictures andsome text that doesn't refer to dress but to abilities to deal with crises and such.

176 posted on 06/10/2004 7:34:37 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Freesofar

On another thread, the collected polls do not reflect a landslide at all. They have Kerry winning. We have a disconnect somehow and I hope the polls are wrong.


177 posted on 06/10/2004 7:34:59 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Badeye

Bin Laden is still dead. Perhaps we can find some bits of bone in the moountains and display triumphantly the DNA report.


178 posted on 06/10/2004 7:37:41 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Cyclops08
Must remember one thing: Democrats are famous for stealing elections. Can you say "vote early and vote often?"

Voter fraud could tip this election -- big time.

179 posted on 06/10/2004 7:38:09 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: kattracks

Kerry has a serious pomposity problem; I think the debates will hurt him. For better or worse, the presidency is largely a popularity contest. The only race in modern history in which the "sunnier" candidate lost was in 1968, when Nixon beat Humphrey, largely because of the violence and chaos at the Democratic convention. The Dems seemed out of control.


180 posted on 06/10/2004 7:38:12 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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