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Who's Your Daddy, Now? (Why Berg Got Whacked)
Vanity ^ | 12 May 2004 | .cnI redruM

Posted on 05/12/2004 9:28:30 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

The Roman Emperor Domitian ruled with an iron hand. He beat down all opposition and brutalized his enemies with an 'aw shucks' grin on his face. His trademark slogan was 'Oderint dum metuent' which can be loosely translated to 'Let them hate me as long as they fear me.'

He made this statement after his son Titus put Jerusalem to the torch and a very large number of its inhabitants to the gladius. It was Domitian's way of saying that he practised terrorism for the simple reason that it worked.

It worked in the 1st Century AD and it works like a charm today. When Al Quaida told it's fixers to shorten Nicholas Berg by a head, they claimed anger as their motive. This propaganda belies the realpolitik behind this act of primevil butchery.

Al Quaida butchered Berg for the same reason that pimps slap their hookers. There were a few Americans out there that just didn't seem obsequious enough over the prison abuse scandal and it was time for Al Quaida to administer discipline.

The thugs who shot Berg wanted Edward Kennedy, John F. Kerry and every member of the appeasement establishment to see what they were capable of and take another shot of cowardice. They need to make sure Rep Murtha loadly decries the unwinnability of Iraq from the top of the towers (the one's still standing at least). This is their way of running a campaign add on behalf of Mr. Kerry.

Yes, they tell America to come home. It's time to allow our national testicles to retract back up into the abdominal cavity of out body politic. Just retreat back across the ocean because we lack the spirit to handle the likes of Al Quaida.

Terrorism, for the likes of Al Quaida, is a very straightforward form of campaign speech. it tells Howard Dean and those of his despicable ilk, the extent to which they will allow America to operate. It's the Arab method of sending a message or as Nate Dawg would say "Time to regulate."

The terrorists are no more angry at us after Abu Ghraib than they were before. The beheading of Nichalos Berg was a chess move to them. A diplomatic communique. The cowards among us heard it loud and clear.

Al Quaida has succeeded well at Mau-Mauing a gathering of weak and effeminate flak-catchers. The incident asks us all a simple and contemptuous question. "Who's your Daddy?"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alquaida; intimidation; iraq; nickberg
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To: .cnI redruM
The Roman Emperor Domitian ruled with an iron hand. He beat down all opposition and brutalized his enemies with an 'aw shucks' grin on his face. His trademark slogan was 'Oderint dum metuent' which can be loosely translated to 'Let them hate me as long as they fear me.'

He made this statement after his son Titus put Jerusalem to the torch and a very large number of its inhabitants to the gladius. It was Domitian's way of saying that he practised terrorism for the simple reason that it worked.

God why don't people know their Roman history! This is just stupid, Titus (the sacker of Jerusalem) was the OLDER brother of Domitian, and emperor after their father Vespasian before Domitian.

21 posted on 05/12/2004 9:49:25 AM PDT by Pelayo
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To: belmont_mark
As Hilare Belloc once said..."and outside the circle faces watch us, brutal and awful faces. And on those faces, there is no smile." This must not go unavenged!
22 posted on 05/12/2004 9:49:58 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Training doesn't give you common sense or respect for human dignity.)
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To: CJ Wolf
Reread it. One paragraph says butchered, the next says shot.
23 posted on 05/12/2004 9:50:31 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Proudly not proofreading since Jan 1954.)
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To: Glenn
I'm ever-amazed at the knowledge of Freepers.
LOL! A VERY knowlegable body of people. One doesn't dare jump out here without having all his facts straight!
The good side is that there is much to learn. If you need information on something, someone around here will be quite knowlegeable on the topic, and UNLIKE the liberals, will be able to provide documentations to back it up.
24 posted on 05/12/2004 9:51:59 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: .cnI redruM
Yeah, but the rag heads have really blown it by their grisly murder. I think the decapitation has blown away the prisoner abuse story -- while the abuses are distasteful, perverted and perhaps outrageous, where is the blood?

The American people aren't that dumb and can tell the difference between making someone masturbate and cutting off their head.

If anything, George will benefit in the longer term by the sexually perverted prisoner thing: no one (save perhaps the bent one himself) will accuse George W. Bush of condoning such a thing, but they will be reminded of another president who was just perverted enough to condone it, who was president when the young soldiers who carried out these things were forming their moral values.

Bad timing for clintoon and his memories, no matter how much spin he tries to put on it, it will just refresh the memories of Monica...

25 posted on 05/12/2004 9:53:33 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: .cnI redruM
I just hope my Daddy is wearing the pants in our house and not the dress!
26 posted on 05/12/2004 9:53:45 AM PDT by LIB_CRUSHER (It is clear to me DEM'S have no G'NADS!No insult to beautiful conservative women intended!)
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To: .cnI redruM
If it were up to me, Mecca and Medina would be smouldering piles of ash soaked in pig's blood. When the handwiping piglovers got outraged by this action, I would mow them down like I was Anakain Skywalker against the sandpeople. These radical muslims walk like men but they are all animal and they deserve death, death and more death.

That's what the murder of Berg has made me feel.
27 posted on 05/12/2004 9:53:53 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (The mind plays tricks on you. You play tricks back!)
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To: the Real fifi
I think the beheading has re-defined OUTRAGE, ABUSE, APPALLING, REPUGNANT, SICK, NAUSEATING, ABHORRENT, GROSS, VILE

I certainly HOPE that the "Iraqi prisoners" have a new fear in the back of their heads...who knows...maybe a blade of a knife...

Something tells me that come June 1st...there will be a FEW prisoners...who would welcome dogs barking, hoods and another exciting round of TWISTER in the nude...once the new Iraqi prison guards are put into place...

29 posted on 05/12/2004 9:55:05 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: .cnI redruM
The thugs who shot Berg wanted Edward Kennedy, John F. Kerry and every member of the appeasement establishment to see what they were capable of and take another shot of cowardice. They need to make sure Rep Murtha loadly decries the unwinnability of Iraq from the top of the towers (the one's still standing at least). This is their way of running a campaign add on behalf of Mr. Kerry.

This is where I think your analysis is incorrect, or at least where these Islamic mutants are dead wrong -- in two ways:

1. The United States is not the same as Spain or France. We are one of the few Western countries in which this kind of atrocity will be met with stronger public support -- not less -- for a violent, disproportionate response by the U.S. military.

2. If they are looking out for their own interests, they are doing this all backwards. A Republican in the White House is the best thing that could possibly happen to someone like al-Zarqawi, because a GOP president is hampered by hostile media exposure in ways that a Democratic president never would be. Whereas the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners by the U.S. military is met by calls for the defense secretary's resignation in this administration, a Democratic president who ordered a nuclear strike in Fallujah would be praised in the media for his "strong leadership." Whenever the U.S. feels a need to do things like round up Japanese citizens in prison camps, drop atomic bombs on cities in Japan, send hundreds of thousands of soldiers to wage an idiotic, pointless war in Vietnam, etc. -- we're usually smart enough to use a Democrat to protect ourselves from leftist opposition.

30 posted on 05/12/2004 9:56:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus" -- William Wallace (Mel Gibson))
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To: the Real fifi
Agreed. While Americans will say they believe in the rule of law, many won't object to an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. We've got a lot of settling up to do.
31 posted on 05/12/2004 9:56:33 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: .cnI redruM
The thugs who shot Berg

Shot? He was decapitated.

32 posted on 05/12/2004 9:57:55 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Jaxter
I think Ann Coulter said it best:

"If the Democrats aren't on Al Qaida's payroll they're getting gypped."


A call in to Neal Boortz radio program this morning said that the Iranian Mullahs were paying big bucks to try to ensure the election of John Kerry.

Alot of 'foreign' dollars are hoping to get Kerry elected.
33 posted on 05/12/2004 9:59:36 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Alberta's Child
2. If they are looking out for their own interests, they are doing this all backwards. A Republican in the White House is the best thing that could possibly happen to someone like al-Zarqawi, because a GOP president is hampered by hostile media exposure in ways that a Democratic president never would be....

Not that a Dem president would ever actually DO anything.

34 posted on 05/12/2004 10:01:19 AM PDT by P8riot (A gun is merely a substitute for a penis, so when attacked by a mugger one should pull out a ...)
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To: stendahl
"Build a graveyard and call it peace."

Wasn't that a comment by a Briton on Roman rule? "They create a desolation and call it peace." Tacitus, Agricola 30. Note that Rome didn't have any more problems with the Carthaginians after the Romans razed the city and sowed the salt.

"...it did not matter whether subjugated people loved Rome..." See also The Prince, on whther it is better to be loved or feared.
35 posted on 05/12/2004 10:01:29 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: .cnI redruM
The Roman Emperor Domitian ruled with an iron hand. .......His trademark slogan was 'Oderint dum metuent' which can be loosely translated to 'Let them hate me as long as they fear me.' ...... He made this statement after his son Titus put Jerusalem to the torch

History Police:

Vespsian (Reign: A.D. 69-79) was the father of both Titus (Reign: A.D. 79-81) and Domintian (Reign: AD 81–AD 96).

Titus was the older brother of Domitian. Domitian acscended to the Imperial throne after the death of his older brother Titus.

36 posted on 05/12/2004 10:01:51 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: stendahl
Wasn't that a Pict or a Briton speaking to Agricola, that the Romans made a wasteland and called it peace? :^)

skepsel
37 posted on 05/12/2004 10:02:16 AM PDT by skepsel
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To: .cnI redruM
Right on the money.
38 posted on 05/12/2004 10:02:57 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: sartorius
From bin Laden himself to SecDef Perry way back when:

We say to the Defense Secretary that his talk can induce a grieving mother to laughter! . . . Where was this false courage of yours when the explosion in Beirut took place in 1983? . . . You [were] turned into scattered pits and pieces at that time; 241 mainly marine soldiers were killed. And where was this courage of yours when two explosions made you leave Aden in less than twenty-four hours! But your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where—after vigorous propaganda about the power of the USA and its post–Cold War leadership of the new world order—you moved tens of thousands of an international force, including twenty-eight thousand American soldiers, into Somalia. However, when tens of your soldiers were killed in minor battles and one American pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. . . . You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew. The extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear.-- Bin Laden

39 posted on 05/12/2004 10:03:05 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: .cnI redruM
heh, while we're taking history notes:

"Titus put Jerusalem to the torch and a very large number of its inhabitants to the gladius."

in latin, the word gladius has two meanings. one slang: "sword" and the other literal: "penis"

gladiators were seen as sex symbols as well as fighters, and were named after the literal meaning.
40 posted on 05/12/2004 10:04:26 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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