Cardinal, in meeting with Kerry, says someone in danger of going to hell is "none of his business"

Sat, 17 Apr 2004 | Gary L. Morella

[cpforlife.org]

Cardinal, in meeting with Kerry, basically says someone in danger of going to hell is "none of his business"

By Gary L. Morella

There is not much to comment on in the enclosed report from CWN ( http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=28963 )regarding Cardinal McCarrick's meeting with Kerry because, if this report is accurate, McCarrick is NOT a Catholic! Catholics, especially Catholic priests, care about the danger of people going to hell. Kerry, per Canon law, deserves formal excommunication many times over for this public sins, which he flouts. If Kerry's bishop (O'Malley) or Cardinal McCarrick truly cared for his immortal soul they would do just that, excommunicate him to try to bring him to his senses. Instead the response from McCarrick is "(Kerry's) very real risk of going to hell is none of my business" with sacrilege upon sacrilege resulting every time Kerry presents himself for Holy Communion.

Certainly if Kerry ever went into a confessional for the Sacrament of Penance, his confession was not a good one in that absolution for one's sins is contingent upon an act of contrition with a firm purpose of amendment. Kerry shamelessly has repeatedly made his sins public to the scandal of the Church. What planet has Cardinal McCarrick been living on to be blind to this fact?

Going to Heaven instead of hell USED to be the business of the Catholic Church, the ONLY business! The Church is being betrayed from within by those who could care less about this seminal truth as evidenced by Cardinal McCarrick's statements per CWN. This is the same Cardinal McCarrick who refuses to take definitive action against the administration of a pseudo-Catholic university in his archdiocese that, like Kerry, also shamelessly flouts the Church's moral teaching. To the detriment of Kerry's immortal soul, he is being put at risk of "getting to know the devil better for eternity."

To say, as some fraudulently calling themselves Catholic have, that "there is no single issue that should determine a Catholic's vote in regard to Kerry" completely ignores the fact that Kerry is a disciple of the entirety of the "culture-of-eternal-death" being in favor of contraception, abortion, homosexuality, and euthanasia to name the major ones addressed in the Universal Catechism and the Teaching Magisterium of Holy Mother Church. Thus, it is a WHOLE litany of issues for which John Kerry gives no evidence whatsoever that he is a Catholic. For the scandal that he has publicly caused the Church he has de facto excommunicated himself latae sententiae per Canon law, as many orthodox Catholic sources have repeatedly pointed out.

Catholics are not called to check their Faith at the door when they enter public life. They are called to uncompromisingly witness to it for the sake of a Kingdom not of this world, for supernatural reasons, the only reasons for being a Catholic. Everything done by man naturally is to build for living in that other Kingdom. That is the Catholic example that Christ called us all to follow in the last chapter of the Gospel of Matthew. To get right to the point, Catholics are called to convert the world to the One, True Faith for man's natural good leading ultimately to his supernatural good, which is what adherence to the Natural Law, a participation in the Eternal Law, means. How can you do that when, like John Kerry, you encourage disobedience to God's laws?

How can it not be a red flag that something is very wrong with politicians like Kerry, Kennedy ad nauseam, pseudo-Catholic frauds, whose actions do not deserve our support but rather our condemnation for the sake of the souls of all concerned. For the love of God, Cardinal McCarrick, have you forgotten that Kerry could not even bring himself to support a seriously flawed law that only recognizes the life of an innocent in the womb from conception if it is wanted by its mother? Have you forgotten that Kerry is a shameless supporter of partial birth infanticide? WHAT OTHER ISSUE is as important as this, Cardinal McCarrick? And please do not tell me that peace and social justice issues trump life when God knew us before we were in the womb per Jeremiah?

It is personally disgusting for me as a Catholic layman, a father, and a grandfather, to watch our supposed good shepherds skew the teachings of the faith by given the impression that John Kerry is a Catholic, and that there is NOT ONE issue for which Kerry's Catholicism could be called into serious question with the required punishment, given Kerry's bastardization of the faith. That is not what my Catechism says. That is not what Denzinger's the Sources of Catholic Dogma says. That is not what the infallible teaching Magisterium of Holy Mother Church on Faith and morals says, from both extraordinary (ex cathedra) and ordinary standpoints as to what the Church has always traditionally taught, and what the faithful have always traditionally believed. That is not what Saint Thomas Aquinas says in the Summa Theologica, a man whom Leo XIII in Aeterni Patris gave as THE example for Catholic teaching. That is not what Pius IX, Pope Saint Pius X, Pius XI, Pius XII, and the Conciliar popes Paul VI, and John Paul II say in their encyclicals addressing various aspects of Church teaching against the culture-of-eternal-death, in particular the contraceptive mentality leading to abortion for which there is a classical Catholic Magisterial presentation in Pius XI's Casti Connubii, which is another teaching that John Kerry blatantly flouts. That is not what the teachings of the early fathers traditionally held, and it most certainly is not what Sacred Scripture, the inspired word of God inerrant in all things because of that fact, holds on the aforementioned issues.

Just how many mortal sins does Kerry have to commit, and they are mortal, the grave matter per the aforementioned clear Church teaching, the consent to willfully ignore that teaching, and the actual commission, testify to that fact - there are no excuses for the John Kerry's of the world - before someone wearing a miter in this country gives evidence that he is a Catholic by caring enough for Kerry's immortal soul and the souls of those whom he has scandalized by formally stating that Kerry is excommunicated from the Catholic Church?

It is a sad fact that many bishops have encouraged dissent from infallible Magisterial teaching on faith and morals, which spawned a sodomite subculture in the priesthood, that gave us "Catholic" politicians like John Kerry. That is the biggest scandal, i.e., our supposed "good shepherds" doing NOTHING to save our souls!

Gary L. Morella Catholic Member of the Research Faculty The Pennsylvania State University

[SunnyUsa]

thank you, it's disturbing to read

wanted to show my husband this too

[cpforlife.org]

Thanks!

[cpforlife.org]

SunnyUsa,

Hope 38 & 40 Help. Also, see what Polycarp posted earlier:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1119897/posts

[cpforlife.org]

FYI A Brief Catechism for Catholic Voters is must reading for every Catholic family. It is also very important for high-school students to learn this so that they can be properly informed Christian Voters. By Father Stephen F. Torraco, Ph.D.

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IMO--This is the most important little book Christians should read before elections. It is written in the style of the old Baltimore catechism—15 direct questions with concise answers.

Please consider presenting to pastors, Religion Classes, KofC, Sodalities, etc. for widest possible distribution.

Two great phrases that are hopefully becoming common are "NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUE" and "disqualifying issue"

From A Brief Catechism for Catholic Voters:
"A disqualifying issue is one which is of such gravity and importance that it allows for no political maneuvering. It is an issue that strikes at the heart of the human person and is non-negotiable. A disqualifying issue is one of such enormity that by itself renders a candidate for office unacceptable regardless of his position on other matters."

From Voter's Guide for Serious Catholics (An On-Line Guide):

The FIVE NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES are:
1. Abortion
2. Euthanasia
3. Fetal Stem Cell Research
4. Human Cloning
5. Homosexual "Marriage"

the apostate john kerry disqualifies himself on each of the 5.

[Gerish]

When asked what he would tell Kerry if they sought his advice on how to handle the situation, he said: "What they do is really their business and not mine."

What a coward!

[visualops]

I realize this may be a good guide for folks, but you can also point to the Vatican's statement on politics and Catholics, which is free. It's just a bit tacky IMHO to post this "ad" whenever these issues come up.

Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, having received the opinion of the Pontifical Council for the Laity, has decided that it would be appropriate to publish the present Doctrinal Note on some questions regarding the participation of Catholics in political life. This Note is directed to the Bishops of the Catholic Church and, in a particular way, to Catholic politicians and all lay members of the faithful called to participate in the political life of democratic societies.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20021124_politica_en.html

[MHGinTN]

What a ghastly assertion from someone entrusted to bring in the souls to salvation! It brings to mind the reason for the Revelations description of the Whore Babylon ... the Church is in dire need of revival from such wrong-headed leadership on Earth.

[Antoninus]

See post 17....

Somebody's got to blow the whistle on these chumps. Enough is enough!

[Tennessee_Bob]

Wow, a Cardinal that isn't interested in saving souls.

Maybe he's already got the whole set?

[cpforlife.org]

visualops,

I appreciate your points. However "DOCTRINAL NOTE" is not written in an easy to understand format for lay Catholic VOTERS. Also in booklet form it costs more than A Brief Catechism for Catholic Voters

Consider what could happen if every junior and senior Catholic High schooler was made to study "A Brief Catechism for Catholic Voters" and were tested on it. If this were done for several years, a majority of Catholics would vote for pro-life. If this would have been started when I was in High School, perhaps we would have already overturned Roe?

As it stands now if kerry is elected, it will be due to the majority of Catholics who keep voting against life.

Voter's Guide for Serious Catholics (An On-Line Guide)is available for free, and again, it is geared for the voters in mind.

I would never consider it "tacky" to promote the Truths of the Church while trying to end the American Holocaust.

[visualops]

My suggestion then is you should reverse the order of the items in your posts, and put the free stuff first. I still think the big ad is tacky :)

There is an *excellent* opinion piece in last week's National Catholic Register, by Father Matthew Habiger, "Must Catholic Politicians Disown Their Faith?"

I'm debating trying to get some reprint permission. I think it's a must read for all voting Catholics.

[redhead]

"The absolute shambles that is the Catholic Church in America is being revealed for all to see. And the so-called "orthodox" bishops are NOT speaking up or acting decisively, while the sellouts like McCarrick, Egan, O'Malley, etc., are misstating Canon Law, making excuses for Kerry and his ilk, and dithering."

Go HERE to read my new blog on this very subject.

[redhead]

a bump and a ping

[DestroytheDemocrats]

Here's what McCarrick said in the other article: "I would find it hard to use the Eucharist as a sanction,” he said gently. “You don’t know what’s in anyone’s heart when they come before you. It’s important that everyone know what our principles are, but you’d have to be very sure someone had a malicious intent [before denying him communion.]” McCarrick is surprisingly humble, and a reluctant judge. “It’s between the person and God,’’ he said. Should Kerry or someone in his campaign seek counsel on Catholic protocol? “What they do,’’ he demurred, “is really their business and not mine.’’"

This is the guy heading up the task force to decide what to do about pro-choice politicians!!! There is no way the Church can say partial birth abortion is murder of innocent life and then say, "but if Catholics support it, it is none of the Church's business, it is between the person and God." That is the secular position!!! Because if that is true then why would it not be none of our/the Church's business when a woman has a partial birth abortion? It is after all her body, and what she decided is just something between her and God. And if so, why not let her come to Communion also. As long as she is no malicious intent of course.

I have heard everything now. This is rock bottom. Something to literaly mourn over.

[Polycarp IV]

From post #54:

McCarrick is surprisingly humble, and a reluctant judge. “It’s between the person and God,’’ he said. Should Kerry or someone in his campaign seek counsel on Catholic protocol? “What they do,’’ he demurred, “is really their business and not mine.’’"

Hmmmm....

[StAthanasiustheGreat]

Another False Shephard.

[cpforlife.org]

McCarrick is surprisingly humble, and a reluctant judge. “It’s between the person and God,’’ he said. Should Kerry or someone in his campaign seek counsel on Catholic protocol? “What they do,’’ he demurred, “is really their business and not mine.’’"

I have no reason to doubt that he indeed said this and meant it. Sooooo. Isn't this in a nutshell heresy? Isn't he basically telling everyone to do as they please, that the Church does not give a damn. If this new "teaching" (which the secular humanists will turn it into) spreads, this will undermine authentic teaching in a huge way. What say you?

[cpforlife.org]

Redhead,

I just read your latest. Awesome! If you have a PING list for your writings please add me.

But sad:

"Among Catholic elementary school religion teachers, 90% dissent on birth control, 74% dissent on abortion, 73% on papal infallibility, 37% on the Real Presence, and 2% on God's existence!"

Clear reasons why we cannot get solid Pro-Life education in the schools. Heart wrenching sad.

[Salvation]

To read later.

[tuckrdout]

You know, those Cardinals live in such luxury, that they lose touch with the reason they became priests in the first place.....unless the reason was to ultimately live in oppulance?

If McCarrick would pick up the Bible and read it everyday, he might read this passage about the duties of a messenger of God, in Ezek 3:18-21:

"When I say to the wicked, "You shall surely die,' and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. Yet, if you warn the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul.
"Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die; because you did not give him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand. Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man that the righteous should not sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live because he took warning; also you will have delivered your soul."