Priest may be forming breakaway church

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Thursday, April 08, 2004 | Ann Rodgers

[Willie Green]

Catholic leaders issue stern warning

A Catholic priest, who was transferred two years ago after delivering a vulgar Easter homily advocating the ordination of women and married men, may be starting a breakaway church, Catholic officials said yesterday.

A Web site says that the Rev. William Hausen will be pastor of Christ Hope Ecumenical Catholic Church, which will begin holding services May 2 at Sewickley Country Inn.

The church's Web site, www.christhope.com, has no phone number and Hausen could not be reached for comment yesterday.

Officials of the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh said they were trying to reach Hausen, who has been on administrative leave from ministry since October.

"Please be advised that this church is not part of the Diocese of Pittsburgh, is not recognized by Bishop [Donald] Wuerl, and is not sanctioned either by this diocese or the Apostolic See [Vatican]," said a notice faxed to pastors late yesterday afternoon. "You may wish to advise your parishioners of this notification and that participation in this church has grave consequences."

[tbird5]

The pope's selling of indulgences was what triggered Luther's action, but his real desire was to bring about change or the end to the corruption which he saw within the papacy itself. But, by attacking the pope as viciously as he did Luther became a heretic instead of a reformer.http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/l/luther_martin%20.html Look it up. He never meant to leave the church, only reform it at that time. All catholics who have had higher education in theology know this. And the Church of England has met with the pope trying to reconcil differences.

[patent]

"Grave consequences" means that once he holds the breakaway service, Hausen is excommunicated and those who attend "become excommunicated when they understand that that is the penalty," said the Rev. Ronald Lengwin, spokesman for the diocese.

I find this fairly interesting. A man who speaks out against the way the church has conducted the child raping, is punished. And if he conducts a service, he and any who attend will be excommunicated. Meanwhile, the priests who fancy sodomizing children are welcomed into the fold .....

I’m pretty sure you don’t care much for the truth here, but your comment is wrong on both counts. The article indicates he gave a “vulgar” homily on Easter that advocated the ordination of women and married men. He conflicted with doctrine, that was why he was punished by being transferred. As to your claim he was punished for talking about the sex scandal, there is no evidence of that, in this article or otherwise. Thousands of priests have talked about the sex scandals and not been disciplined. In short, you made it up.

As to your claim that priests who sodomize children are welcomed into the fold, that is also plainly false. They get booted automatically.

patent  +AMDG

[patent]

Kerry's doing it. The Church isn't trying to rein him in.

Well, his bishop told him he shouldn’t receive communion, etc. Thing is, if the Church really goes after him, all the anti-Catholic types will start screaming about how the Pope wants to control American politics. It's a no win situation.

patent  +AMDG

[Hodar]

As to your claim that priests who sodomize children are welcomed into the fold, that is also plainly false. They get booted automatically.

Really? I was under the impression that this was NOT the case.

[Havoc]

They didn't get booted automatically, they got covered up. Rome says salvation is through the Church. Christianity says salvation is in Christ. Go figure. If you believe Christ you're an excommunicant anyway lol

[AMDG&BVMH]

"And the Church of England has met with the pope trying to reconcil differences."

Talks have been ongoing for decades; but the Anglican/Episcopal Church keeps taking steps which will prevent full unity: women priests, women bishops, active homosexual priests and now a bishop.

[Havoc]

It's your own doctrines that make it a no win situation. Does the office of Papacy not declare itself the only rightful office on earth with the authority to enthrone and dethrone Kings and with dominion over the earth etc.. I don't know which is worse, the pretense or the pretense lol

[AMDG&BVMH]

He said they get booted. You said they got covered up.

They get booted. Most of the offenses were between the 60-80s. Now we only need to "get booted" a few more of the bishops who "were" complicit . . . ;)

[Dionysius]

He looks like Ernie. Or is it Bert? Whatever -- the tall one.

[TalBlack]

The Church is comprised entirely of mortals, humans. They err, they have erred, they will err.

You find it "fairly interesting" that they should look after the moral standing of the Church in this instance because they failed to do so in another. Which is it? Should the Church try to do the right thing or not?

The Church may properly lay claim to much of the moral advancement of the past millenium. The Church may also lay claim to a certain amount of the bloody mischief of that span of time. As human beings of a stripe they're doing a hell of a lot better than any other group, force or government, bar none.

[Fast Ed97]

Good- maybe the heretics will join the breakaway church.

[tbird5]

"It's your own doctrines that make it a no win situation"

You do not know of what you speak! Ask a convert. They really know and understand the Catholic Church and love it.

[Havoc]

I didn't involve myself with when your church cares to do the right thing, that speaks for itself. Whether it should try to do the right thing should be obvious. I'm just injoying the pickle your own doctrine has you in - compromising doctrine and scripture in order not to give the appearance that pushing your claim where people would not welcome it. If it were a southamerican politician, I'm sure the Pope would have no problem with injecting himself there.

[patent]

As to your claim that priests who sodomize children are welcomed into the fold, that is also plainly false. They get booted automatically.

Really? I was under the impression that this was NOT the case.

You were wrong.

Twenty years ago the Church, like every other institution, failed to deal with pedophilia the way we do today. Today, however, they get booted, no tolerance.

Rome says salvation is through the Church. Christianity says salvation is in Christ. Go figure. If you believe Christ you're an excommunicant anyway lol

Wrong.

patent  +AMDG

[patent]

It's your own doctrines that make it a no win situation. Does the office of Papacy not declare itself the only rightful office on earth with the authority to enthrone and dethrone Kings and with dominion over the earth etc.. I don't know which is worse, the pretense or the pretense lol

Huh? I’m not sure what you said but I don’t recognize much Catholicism in it.

patent  +AMDG

[Havoc]

You have to be kidding.. lol. History 1o1

[Hodar]

Whoa, there.

To err, is to make a mistake, a momentarary lapse of judgement. That is an err.

To knowingly rape children, to threaten them with hell and damnation if they tell their parents is NOT an error. To then pronounce parents as "liars" and "rumor mongers" for having the audacity to believe their children is NOT an error.

To harbor, protect and move these degenerates from congregation to congregation is NOT an error. That is an abombination. There is a really big difference between an err, and raping a child.

As human beings of a stripe, have you considered the Buddists? No wars, no forced conversions, and no raping. Don't make claims that you simply cannot back up. Priests raping young children is not a fad that was picked up in the 1980's and 90's. It's been going on for centuries. And it's also not limited to the USA.

When I see a 'Church' give annullments to somebody who has been married for nearly 20 years, with 2 children; simply because he has money, I will point it out. When I see a church that forbids birth control in countries too poor to sustain their population, I point that out. When I see a hierarchy of Church officials abuse the trust placed in them, by hiding predators, I will point that out.

I had no problem condemning the Rev. Jim Bakker, Rev. Jim Jones, Rev. Jimmy Swaggert, and the Rev. Jesse Jackson. Putting on fancy clothes and talking to a group of people about God on Sunday, and living a Christian life are two very different things.

[mlmr]

Sounds like an Episcopalian!

[fishbabe]

thanks for the info...went to google to find out more about him......

[PennsylvaniaMom]

Wow, all of this, and the beaten Glassport Easter Bunny too! Makes me proud to be from the 'Burgh.