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Murdering’ troops? What could Kerry have meant?
The Union Leader. ^ | March 28, 2004

Posted on 03/28/2004 2:11:31 AM PST by sopwith

BACK IN 1971, John Kerry said that 200,000 Vietnamese a year were “murdered by the United States of America.” Now he says he didn’t mean “murdered” and wasn’t referring to U.S. soldiers. Well then, what in the world did he mean?

After accessing transcripts of testimony Kerry gave to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971, The Boston Globe reported Kerry’s “murdered” comment last Thursday. The paper also reported that Kerry claimed to have flown to Paris and “talked with both delegations at the peace talks,” clearly giving the impression that he was in some way involved in the Paris peace negotiations.

Now Kerry says his Paris trip was a private affair with his wife, and he only met the Vietnamese for a few minutes. But back in 1971 he wanted people to think the trip was of some significance. The claim is reminiscent of Kerry’s more recent boasts that he has talked with world leaders who want Bush out of office and that he had a close friend in Massachusetts who heard on good authority that Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was kidnapped. Kerry has a habit of claiming that he is privy to inside information, then backing off when questioned about such boasts.

But back to his charge that the United States was murdering 200,000 Vietnamese a year. Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan told the Globe that Kerry “never suggested or believed and absolutely rejects the idea that the word applied to service of the American soldiers in Vietnam.” If he wasn’t referring to the United States military, then who in the world could he have meant? The USO?

Either the 1971 John Kerry was lying, or the 2004 John Kerry is lying — or both. We think both.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; kerry; kerrylies; warcriminal
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1 posted on 03/28/2004 2:11:32 AM PST by sopwith
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To: sopwith
Kerry is sounding more and more like Gore -- telling tall tales every day.
2 posted on 03/28/2004 2:14:03 AM PST by Elkiejg (Clintons and Democrats have ruined America)
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To: sopwith
He isn't even as adept as Gore! And that's a damning charge.
3 posted on 03/28/2004 2:17:13 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Elkiejg
Somebody needs to bring this up with Kerry...in front of cameras....on National TV....He needs to be questioned on his other "comments" that he didn't mean.
4 posted on 03/28/2004 2:18:57 AM PST by Dallas59
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To: sopwith
"The paper also reported that Kerry claimed to have flown to Paris and “talked with both delegations at the peace talks".

IIRC, the "both" delegations Kerry talked with in Paris were the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong, not the government of South Vietnam.
5 posted on 03/28/2004 3:58:19 AM PST by wingman1 (University of Vietnam '70)
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To: sopwith
More I vote for it, but then I voted against it. FLIP FLOP
6 posted on 03/28/2004 4:16:21 AM PST by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: Dallas59; All
And also needing to be asked: "Senator Kerry [D(im-0-crat) - Kennedy's Manse], when can we expect to see the release of the records of your full military service?"

This needs to be asked - and asked again - and asked again - ... , until the public sees them and understands how four months "in country" connect to his ribbons.

Does Ketchup-Kerry have something to hide perhaps?

Of course, his recent tax filings would be an interesting read too.

7 posted on 03/28/2004 4:19:40 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: lainde
"He isn't even as adept as Gore! And that's a damning charge."

Al Gore was a boastful fellow to be sure, but I don't remember him bearing a lot of false witness against his neighbors. Kerry has accused the US Military of war crimes, through his surrogates he's accused our president of being "awol" and of causing the recent terrorist attacks in Spain.

Kerry's lies go way beyond just self agrandizment, they show him as unfit even for the office he now holds, much less that of POTUS.

8 posted on 03/28/2004 4:20:21 AM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: lainde
He isn't even as adept as Gore! And that's a damning charge.

You are right. The comparisons of Kerry with Gore are illuminating and uncannily accurate.

9 posted on 03/28/2004 4:23:53 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Elkiejg
Wasn't that book Love Story written about Kerry? Or was it Washington Square?
10 posted on 03/28/2004 5:02:20 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Whom will the terrorists vote for? Not George W. Bush--that's for sure!" ~Happy2BMe)
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To: sopwith; marron
Valor can be defined as putting your blood where your mouth is. Even "putting your money where your mouth is" is not so clearly the antithesis of cheap talk as valor is.

Since journalism is the mass production of talk, journalism is naturally inclined toward cheap talk. Cheap talk - the advocacy of easy fixes at the expense of the intergenerational long run - defines liberalism in general and the anti-valor ("antiwar") movement in particular. That is why liberalism, and why the anti-valor project, emanates from journalism.

Apart from that understanding it is impossible for a conservative to understand how, after smearing the US troops in Vietnam, Senator Kerry has gotten as far as he has politically.

If journalism can install Kerry in the WH . . . perish the thought.

Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate

11 posted on 03/28/2004 6:20:31 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (No one is more subjective than the person who believes in his own objectivity.)
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To: sopwith
BACK IN 1971, John Kerry said that 200,000 Vietnamese a year were “murdered by the United States of America.” Now he says he didn’t mean “murdered” and wasn’t referring to U.S. soldiers. Well then, what in the world did he mean?

Flip Flop---Flip Flop--Flip Flop

Be sure to tune in again next week. Different time. Different Channel. Different story!

12 posted on 03/28/2004 6:35:17 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: lepton
bookmark bump
13 posted on 03/28/2004 6:39:03 AM PST by lepton
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To: lepton
bookmark bump
14 posted on 03/28/2004 6:39:07 AM PST by lepton
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To: sopwith
He does not know what he means, so I wish people would quit confusing him.
15 posted on 03/28/2004 6:40:21 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: wingman1
You remember correctly. 'Both delegations' consisted of the North Vietnamese and the VC Provisional Government, basically.
16 posted on 03/28/2004 7:17:15 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Dallas59
The media and Demonrats have been attempting to keep this part of Kerry secret, but it gets out there. There is no justification for his slander against US troops still fighting in Vietnam, his radical organization that he led, just his extremist points of view in regards to how America and our servicemen were the bad guys and committing the attrocities and now attempting to masquerade himself as some great 'war hero patriot'. There is NO WAY a Republican candidate would ever get away with the slander of US troops like that, attending meetings where his radical organization contemplated assassination of Senators.
17 posted on 03/28/2004 8:27:09 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: sopwith
So did Kerry commit perjury in 1971, or is he lying now? (Or should that be "and/or"?)
18 posted on 03/28/2004 10:04:28 AM PST by thoughtomator (Voting Bush because there is no reasonable alternative)
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To: Elkiejg
Could a blue jean wardrobe change be far? Ha,ha,ha.
19 posted on 03/28/2004 11:22:24 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
"Valor can be defined as putting your blood where your mouth is. Even "putting your money where your mouth is" is not so clearly the antithesis of cheap talk as valor is. Since journalism is the mass production of talk, journalism is naturally inclined toward cheap talk. Cheap talk - the advocacy of easy fixes at the expense of the intergenerational long run - defines liberalism in general and the anti-valor ("antiwar") movement in particular. That is why liberalism, and why the anti-valor project, emanates from journalism."

Well stated.

20 posted on 03/28/2004 12:06:35 PM PST by marron
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