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Officials Worry of Pre-Election Attack
AP ^ | 3-15-04 | TERENCE HUNT

Posted on 03/15/2004 6:19:08 PM PST by Indy Pendance

WASHINGTON - Even before the bombings in Madrid, White House officials were worrying that terrorists might strike the United States before the November elections.

Now, with the Socialists' surprise election victory in Spain, analysts believe the ballot box rebuke of one of President Bush (news - web sites)'s closest allies in the war in Iraq (news - web sites) could embolden terrorists to try the same tactics in the United States to create fear and chaos.

"That's an amazing impact of a terrorist event, to change the party in power," said Jerrold Post, a former CIA (news - web sites) profiler who directs the political psychology program at George Washington University.

"The implications of this are fairly staggering," agreed political psychologist Stanley Renshon of City University of New York. "This is the first time that a terrorist act has influenced a democratic election. This is a gigantic, loud wakeup call. There's no one they'd like to have out of office more than George W. Bush."

In political terms, the question is whether an attack would cause Americans to rally around Bush or blame him for the nation's vulnerabilities.

Bush has made the war on terrorism his trademark issue, spending tens of billions of dollars at home and abroad in the name of fighting terrorists. Polls show it's his strongest suit in his re-election battle against Democrat John Kerry.

Traditionally, in times of peril, Americans have supported their president. After Sept. 11, 2001, Bush soared in the polls. That standing has softened over time but still remains strong, reinforced by the fact that America has not been hit again.

"People are critical of Bush in lots of ways but they still give him pretty good grades for dealing with the war on terrorism," said pollster Andy Kohut.

If there were an attack, he said, "the traditional effect is a rally."

But Kohut and others say the rally effect could diminish, particularly if Americans doubted Bush's ability to protect them or thought the war on Iraq played any part. His anti-terrorism standing might be weakened by other factors, too, such as doubts about his handling of the economy, analysts say.

How the Democrats responded to a possible attack would figure in as well.

"It has been made a political issue already," said Columbia University political scientist Robert Shapiro. "It's no longer the attack out of nowhere like 9-11 was," he said. "There's a context for it that's very different."

Kerry has been probing for Bush weaknesses on the international front, accusing the president of alienating allies at a time when the United States needed them the most. Kerry claims that some foreign leaders have told him privately that they would prefer him in the White House. The administration shot back Monday that Kerry ought to name names of foreign leaders, suggesting it would mean he lied if he failed to produce.

The administration has made no attempt to hide its concern about another attack.

"We live in an age of terror, in which ruthless enemies seek to destroy not only our nation and not only to destroy all free nations but to destroy freedom as a way of life," National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said last week. She spoke of "our worst nightmare" of attack by chemical, biological or nuclear weapons at the hands of terrorists.

Bush regularly talks about the threat in his stump speeches. In his State of the Union address, he said it was tempting to think, after more than two years, that the danger was behind Americans. "That hope is understandable, comforting and false," Bush said.

Brookings Institution political analyst Stephen Hess said issues such as terrorist attacks are troublesome for campaigns because they represent the unknown.

"Nothing bothers a politician or a strategist as much as trying to contemplate the unknown, trying to factor it in, what would happen."


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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All; livius
your post reminded me (that doesn't mean i'm agreeing with it) of something that i heard today several times. there is a lefty rumor circulating that says that the PP tried to call off the elections on Saturday and then tried on Sunday to have the reuslts discounted. It's gaining momentum over the internet and being discussed here on the radio.
p.s. ping Libius
141 posted on 03/16/2004 12:03:00 PM PST by freedom moose (mooses like freedom and beer)
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To: jwalsh07
I can see the liberal areas of the country, the big cities, reacting that way. They will vote dem anyway so no big loss when those areas pull in more votes.

There is no way the red areas cower and give the election to a pansy appeasing dem when we are attacked, that is against every thing they have been taught makes a man, yes even union guys. That unwillingness to cower from bullies is the make up of the American spirit, that has the rest of the weak socialist world calling us cowboys. When they say it about Bush they think they are being deragatory, I and most of Americans just say amen. Unlike Europe Americans have been taught that there are some things worth fighting for, freedom being one.

142 posted on 03/16/2004 12:05:32 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Will_Zurmacht
but my gut reaction is the "moderate-soccer mom" types
again just a hunch
yes i would call that a hunch
or a lack of understanding of Spain
143 posted on 03/16/2004 12:07:36 PM PST by freedom moose (mooses like freedom and beer)
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To: QED
Sorry we would have done the same. ... Remember Reagan in Lebanon?"

I'd like to think we wouldn't have. But yes, I remember Reagan. Pulling out was a mistake and shelling the hills instead of the terrorist camps was a mistake too. There has been a combination of errors that led up to 9/11. And it included Carter's handling of Iran, Reagan's handling of Lebanon, Bush Sr's failure to remove Saddam the first time and Clinton's failure to respond to the first WTC bombing, the OKC bombing, the TWA flight bombing, and opportunities to catch Bin Laden.

Reagan's blasting of Libya and Bush Sr's driving Iraq out of Kuwait were the only bright spots.

144 posted on 03/16/2004 12:07:59 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: texasflower
Kind words ... but actually I recall you agreeing to just that, last week.

I wrote:

You replied: To which I replied: You're too young to be forgetting stuff. Must be that Texas hospitality showing <grin>. Take care of your good self.
145 posted on 03/16/2004 12:20:23 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!!!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Well, I do remember that exchange, but I guess I got even more insight out of this one!

See, you are just so wise that I learn something from all of your posts!

146 posted on 03/16/2004 12:35:33 PM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: Indy Pendance
Okay, so AQ decides to destroy a group of people.... Lets say they opt for mass casualities in a city by using Anthrax or a small nuclear device; or even a subway or metro train.... They will be killing, by and large those very folks who vote for democrats.

If America ever has a nuclear conflict, the democrats will lose cities and the republicans gain states in Presidential elections. Seems those who reside in the heartland and countryside vote republican while those who live in the squalor of their socialist cities vote democrat.

Flame me:) But demographics seem to indicate the democrats will be on the receiving end of any conflict in which mass casualities are the objective.

147 posted on 03/16/2004 12:59:59 PM PST by Jumper
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To: eno_
I have no problem with the destruction of Islam, I just don't think we need to throw nukes around to do it.

My post was meant more in reference to Kerry's cowardice.
:O(

148 posted on 03/16/2004 1:00:40 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: BlackRazor
"What happens if an attack is @ noon,Election day?
If that were to happen, and it caused turnout to be severely depressed, and Bush emerged as the winner, I'm sure the Democrats would (eventually, maybe not the very next day) claim it was an illegitimate outcome."

And we could then say: Cowards who don't vote do not deserve to run my country.
149 posted on 03/16/2004 1:00:58 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: metesky
Yes, Kerry would nuke some unpopulated hill in Afganistan and think himself a big man.

However, we are currently facing down a gang of mad mullahs with the bomb in Iran. Do we have the guts to nuke them before they nuke us?
150 posted on 03/16/2004 2:24:22 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: eno_
Iran doesn't have the big one yet and if they don't get it by November 2nd, they never will.

IMO

151 posted on 03/16/2004 2:37:37 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: freedom moose
Interesting. I had heard that the board of elections (or its SP equivalent, at any rate) had filed a suit on behalf of the PP because of the demonstrations outside of its offices all over Spain on Saturday night, which, because they occurred during a time when campaigning was forbidden and in many cases seemed to be organized by other political parties (particularly in Andalucia) represented illegal manipulation.

Frankly, they should have postponed the elections for a week. There were elections going on in New York on 9/11, but they simply halted them and held them later.
152 posted on 03/16/2004 3:11:04 PM PST by livius
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To: livius; freedom moose
Thanks for the info.
153 posted on 03/16/2004 3:32:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: texasflower

154 posted on 03/16/2004 4:18:27 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!!!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
LOL!!
155 posted on 03/16/2004 5:00:57 PM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: inkling

An Open Letter to the People of Spain

by Laura Mansfield, Analyst - NE Intelligence Network

The terrorist attack that massacred 200 of your countrymen, and injured over a thousand, was a horrific act. The world grieves with you. We all know it could have happened to our people in our countries just as easily as it happened in Madrid last Thursday.

But no matter how tragic and horrible that act was, it was not a victory for the terrorists.

The victory for the terrorists in Spain came on Sunday.

The professed goal of the attack, according to numerous Al Qaeda communiques, was to punish Spain for its support of the United States in the war against Iraq.

Sunday, in your free elections, you voted to place the communist party in power. This morning your new leadership announced that it would withdraw the Spanish troops from Iraq, and in effect abandon the coalition.

Your actions proved beyond the shadow of a doubt to Al Qaeda that if they kill enough people in a mass casualty attack that they can swing the popular vote. You've proved that they can influence elections.

You have just guaranteed that the United States will sustain a mass casualty terrorist action on our soil before our November elections. After all, maybe we too can be frightened into a policy of isolationalism. You probably also doomed Tony Blair's government in England to the same fate. How many will die in terror attacks in the United States and England in order for the terrorists to try and intimidate us?

In 1937, your countryman Pablo Picasso created a masterpiece depicting the horrors of wars in Guernica.

That same year, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain made this statement: "We should seek by all means in our power to avoid war, by analyzing possible causes, by trying to remove them, by discussion in a spirit of collaboration and good will." He entered into a policy of appeasement with Germany, instead of taking a stand and drawing a line in the sands of time. The end result was that Adolf Hitler had more time to strengthen his hold on power and perpetrate a holocaust not just on the Jews of Germany, but on much of Europe.

At the same time, your countrymen were giving their lives in a struggle for freedom in Spain.

You were not afraid in 1937. Where is the courage of 1937?

The message you sent to Al Qaeda yesterday was clear. "Please don't threaten us; please don't kill our people; we'll do what you want us to do."

Why are you allowing the terrorists to intimidate you now? Why do you let them win?

What happened?

I leave you now with the words "Hasta la Vista". Call us when you need us. You will be calling; your actions in response to the Madrid terrorism attack guaranteed it. And when you call us, we will come and help. Even if Al Qaeda threatens us and attacks us. We don't let fear cower us into appeasement or surrender. That's the kind of people we are.

156 posted on 03/16/2004 5:04:25 PM PST by B-Cause
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To: VadeRetro
The People of the USA would fold if the Attack was in Iraq. If there was a high body count or if some US soldiers were captured (female would be best)and held. It would have to be something big like what happened in Beirut. Triple digets only. Then the Dimocrats would say we must pull out--and Kerry would pull em after he is (Sic) elected President of the US of A. Kerry would be Clinton II only without the charm.
157 posted on 03/16/2004 5:10:44 PM PST by Hollywoodghost (Let he who would be free strike the first blow)
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To: Hollywoodghost
In our post-Vietnam conflicts, we altered tactics to keep casualties down and have become somewhat spoiled, true. We've come to expect an easy slicing and dicing of the foe with amazingly low losses for our own side. Mostly, we aren't disappointed. Where we once took hundreds of military deaths in our national stride, the occasions in which such figures occur are now a calamity. But Iraq isn't our little Beirut adventure of the eighties. The latter was before Sept. 11, 2001.

People realize that the point of keeping the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is so that it isn't being fought here anymore. I don't think a folding of the tent would be popular.
158 posted on 03/16/2004 5:29:44 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Agnes Heep
There is no question. This is a cultural and religious war. A Christian can practice his religion anywhere. In his home, on the job, in church. But Islamist must have their prayer rugs wherever in order to pray their five times a day. Where do they pray. Mecca. If the shrines of their barbaric religion were vaporized, what direction would they raise their asses five times a day? Game over!
159 posted on 03/16/2004 5:32:46 PM PST by jslade (People who are easily offended, OFFEND ME!)
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To: Agnes Heep
Fortunately, were that to occur, Bush would still be president for six weeks, and if he has any hair where most men have some, he can nuke as much of Islam as is cost-effective. The day the United States is ruled by Islamic terrorists is never coming, and the day that Islam is dead meat hopefully is not long to be awaited. Islam sucks.
160 posted on 03/16/2004 5:38:18 PM PST by mathurine
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