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My Son and War
Painfully typed in from the American Legion Magazine, Vol, 156, No. 1, pp. 30-31 | January 2004 | Frank Schaeffer

Posted on 03/06/2004 9:06:29 AM PST by sauropod

I read this article in the laundromat yesterday. I found it to be a powerful indictment on "Military Families Speak Out." It is not online at the American Legion Magazine Web site, so i typed it in. 'Pod

My Son and War: A once-skeptical father shares his perspective on military parenthood.

By Frank Schaeffer

I write novels for a living and never served in the military. My two older children did the expected: Georgetown and New York University. Our kind - higher-education-worshipping denizens of the North Shore, north of Boston - rarely enlist these days. In 1999, my youngest son, John, was the only senior graduating from his exclusive private high school to join the military. As I write, he is in the Middle East on his second deployment as a U.S. Marine.

After reading an opinion piece I wrote for The Washington Post - about the wrenching adjustment I made from ambivalence toward our military to proud support for my Marine - Gen. James L. Jones (then commandant of the Marine Corps, now chief of NATO), wrote to me, "There has been a 'disconnect' between the men and women who defend our nation and those who are the beneficiaries of that service." The "disconnect" to which Jones refers is illustrated by the contrast between most parents of military personnel and Americans who will not even allow their children's high schools to give their names and addresses to recruiters.

Under the No Child Left Behind Act, schools are required to give the names of graduating students to recruiters. Some parents find it unbearable that their children might be asked to even consider serving. In a New York Times article, Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, says, "Students have a right to not be bothered by agressive military recruiters." School-board members in the San Francisco area said they were working to thwart the "dangerous" law.

Apparently some parents, failing to thwart the recruiter and their child's choice to serve, never reconcile themselves with their feelings about military service. An antiwar organization called "Military Families Speak Out" was formed in 2002 by parents and relatives of servicemembers. Speak Out claims to represent military parents against our liberation of Iraq. The Group's Web site is linked ot a grab bag of anti-globalization and pacifist groups. Speak Out exploits an emotional antiwar tactic: it prints letters on its Web site from frightened parents and children of soldiers pleading with the president to let their mommies, daddies, sons or daughters come home.

What are the factors contributing to the existence of groups like Speak Out? Fear is an obvious reason. But a number of other underlying factors exist. Class is one; the rise of anti-military and anti-traditional-male, politically correct ideology is another.

At one time, our military was drawn from a true cross section of society. Even the Ivy League contributed its fair share - until my generation came along. We were the "60s generation." Some of us served. Many, including me, did not. Vietnam was our excuse. I say excuse because since that war ended, the upper classes - especially the most educated - never regained any sense of moral obligation to serve, let alone the desire to see their children volunteer.

Harvard's memorial wall tells the story. It has many names form World War I and World War II on it, a few from Korea, a handful from Vietnam and none since. Now it's rare to find members of Congress who voluntarily served, much less their children.

The absence of the educated and wealthy elite from our military exacerbates the sense that something un-American and unfair is going on when "my kid" gets sent to war and "rich kids" do not. A country where fairly shared sacrifice is the norm might be less apt to breed groups like Speak Out.

What of the second factor, the rise of anti-military and anti-traditional-male ideology? Before my generation took its turn at the raising and education of children, oversolicitous, hand-wringing "soccer moms" wailing "Be careful!" were nowhere in sight. Winston Churchill and Gen. George Patton were heroes, and no one use the word "sensitivity" except when describing a rash to their doctor.

Patton would not recognize most of today's pool of potential male recruits. I say "male recruits" because while females serve and serve well, it is the role of boys in our culture that best represents our elite's change in attitude about service and, more fundamentally, about the traditional warror role of young men. I believe this shift has something to do with the climate that produces a type of military parent who wants the military to do anything but fight wars.

What kind of boy would be drafted into Patton's army today? Today's 17-year-old potential recruit - let's call him Gabriel (fictitious name) - is an obese, Ritalin-oppressed young man, soft as a Twinkie. The post-'60s, anti-traditional-male and anti-military views of our educated elite have played a role in shaping Gabriel. He only knows about what were once called "boyhood" or "manly" experiences via grotesque video games and other electronic adentures he vicariously undertakes from a snack-littered couch. If he ever got punched at school, the other kid was suspended for violence. If his teacher spanked him, she was fired or maybe jailed. If Gabriel ever read "Huckleberry Finn," he related to the robust protagonist the way a chubby goldfish trapped in a small glass bowl might gape incredulously at a 600-pound Blue Fin slicing his way through the open ocean.

Unlike teachers of the World War II era, too many of Gabriel's instructors see no virtue in martial skills, let alone military service. His teacher is most likely a politically correct, speech-code-sensitivity-enforcing do-gooder trained to make sure Gabriel does his best to behave like the girls in his class. Gabriel's teacher has commanded Gabriel to have "high self-esteem," for what reason or for what acoomplishment he's never been told. "Force never solves anything," he or she has told Gabriel. If Gabriel's teacher ever mentions the military, it is with a shudder and perhaps a condescending smirk.

The smirk was momentarily replaced by a howl of terrified dismay when 19 hijackers killed 3,000 Americans one bright morning. Suddenly Gabriel's teacher's progressive tolerance of everybody and everything - except traditional males - evaporated. Gabriel, his teacher, and maybe even Gabriel's parents looked around, as if waking from a dream, and fervently hoped there were a few good men and women selfless and strong enough to shoulder an 80-pound pack and sling on an M-16 to defend the rest of us.

There were. Not all young men and women are "Gabriel," and even some who once were, volunteered to be mentally and physically "readjusted" by their drill instructors from "nasty civilians" into America's finest warriors.

We went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. The military performed brilliantly. But the war was not over in 15 minutes. It wasn't cut to the pace of a TV commercial. Disney had not supplied a happy ending. Our elites did not like to see our military force used. Our war was fought on the ground, not with cruise missiles. Our attention wandered. Some military parents grew impatient. When where their children coming home? What the hell was this word "sacrifice" supposed to mean?

How far will Speak Out go in bedding down with the rabble of America-haters that inflict themselves on the rest of us through the worldwide peace movement? Would the founders of Speak Out have walked out on the Columbia University associate professor [Nicholas DiGenova] who, according to The New York Times, told thousands of students and faculty at a "peace teach-in" in March that he would like to see the United States suffer "a million Mogadishus"? Maybe members of Speak Out don't go that far. But, as the parents of military men and women, they sure have some strange bedfellows.

Like myself, most military parents honor the fact that our children took an oath to serve. Most of us are more patient than members of the chattering classes who write editorials about how our American policy is failing in the Middle East. Most of us know that even if it does fail, we must still try to transform the breeding grounds of hopelessness, terror and oppression into places where freedom and human rights are given a chance. Most military parents know that World War II lasted almost five years. Germany took 20 years to reconstruct. We still have troops in Korea, Japan and Germany. We know that the Middle East is a complex mess and that the chaotic "crescent of instability," stretching from the horn of Africa through the Middle East and all the way to Indonesia, cannot be allowed to continue breeding violent anti-American terrorists.

My Marine has my absolute support, even though I feel sick at the thought that he could be hurt, or worse. I pray my way through each day and many lonely nights. He is engaged in a noble undertaking. I think most military parents feel as I do, though maybe the press doesn't quote us as often as it trumpets the fears of a few oversolicitous hand-wringing military "soccer moms" (and dads) wailing "Be careful!" as their sons and daughters try to defend us. I hope such parents come to understand that they are putting our children at risk by making us look weak and divided to terrorists who already dismiss us as soft.


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To: mathluv
There was a man and his son on Fox - Fox & Friends, I think, about a year ago. I wonder is this is the same man.

The author of the book mentioned earlier on this thread and his son were on Fox.
121 posted on 03/06/2004 1:39:05 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: sheltonmac
Oh,no.I know you are seriously questioning the war.I was really just noting that you were antiwar without the insults one poster has engaged in.I do think the parent whose son is there answered your question about whether the reasons for war were weighed.
122 posted on 03/06/2004 1:39:59 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: sheltonmac
Have you ever questioned what a disservice we did to those left behind in Viet Nam and Cambodia when (thanks to the success of Kerry, Fonda, and the peaceniks crowd) we got out when and in the way we did?

Contrast life in those areas to that in Germany and Japan.
123 posted on 03/06/2004 1:43:11 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: sauropod
Great article Sauropod.

As a would be line doggie (was seperated from ROTC on a medical, to my regret, neurological reasons, grand mall siezures will do that). I agree, too many are too unwilling to "get into the war" and it's hard for those of us who want to get in. I know, as I finally finished my undergrad and I have been applying my arse off to find a job to do my part. So far, no dice. I lost my stepfather on 9/11 as many of you know, and I promised my mom if I couldn't be a shooter, I'd do my best to support them. I still want to, I'm young, relatively healthy, (I'd never pass the MEPS station with my siezure history) and I want to serve SOMEHOW! I love this nation, and I even voulenteered for the Bush campaign, being an out of work smoe like me.

I guess what hurts the most is people I know, people I went on those FTXs and STRAC lanes with are fighting and in some cases, dying out there. People I care about. I owe them, and my stepfather my service, I am just trying to find a way to give it.

124 posted on 03/06/2004 2:11:17 PM PST by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: Burkeman1
You don't vote and you wouldn't serve in the military - you are lazy, apathetic and gutless.

Wake up bone-head! We're facing a guerrilla army of islamic wackos who will gladly kill you and your sons. Just keep your fat arse in front of the tube and whine about President Bush. Let the adults protect America.
125 posted on 03/06/2004 2:40:57 PM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Old Professer
Brillian observation.

There's always been something swarmy about this guy and the book he peddled with his son.
126 posted on 03/06/2004 2:48:46 PM PST by IGOTMINE (We are being incrementally criminalized by a government that does not trust us with firearms.)
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To: sheltonmac
I think the faulty premise is that service is looked upon as "noble" or as a "moral obligation" regardless of the reason or the cause. Those who went along without question in every unconstitutional military conflict in U.S. history (e.g., Bosnia) are considered "noble" because they "did their duty." Those who refuse to take part, whether on moral or constitutional grounds, are considered unpatriotic cowards who don't deserve to live. It seems people will think or say anything to set their minds at ease

''I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.''

This is the oath of office taken by all who enter the military. Where and when they fight is determined not by them but by the President and Congress. As a civilian you can question a conflict and whether it is right or not. Those who wear the uniform can't. That is what makes it noble. Maybe you don't consider it noble to give up your rights as an American citizen and risk your life for our way of life but I do. That is what makes our Vietnam vets who still love their country so great. They served at the whim of our elected officials and returned home to be spit on by the people who elected them. May God bless those who serve and those who have.

127 posted on 03/06/2004 2:51:44 PM PST by armymarinedad (Patriots love their way of life. Liberals love their lifestyle.)
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To: Burkeman1; hchutch; rdb3
Yeah- conscription is great! Try and get me or my sons for your army and wars.

We don't want cowards in the army. That's why we don't draft anyone. And, if we ever do have to have a draft, I'm sure you and your sons will be exempt under a "congenital loser" clause.

128 posted on 03/06/2004 2:54:13 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: armymarinedad
Amen
129 posted on 03/06/2004 2:54:14 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: cyclotic
Coolest part was that I brought a friend along for the ride and ended up married to her.

LOL! It's always best to marry a friend. :)

130 posted on 03/06/2004 2:57:57 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: sauropod
You get those too eh? Along with ads for the Paris Hilton video.

And here I thought I was getting spam for some hotel in France!

131 posted on 03/06/2004 3:02:07 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: mountaineer
Frank Schaeffer, son of the great Christian writer/missionary/teacher Francis A. Schaeffer,
had an epiphany of sorts when his boy joined the Marines:


Just reposting for lukers/posters.
I saw Frank Schaeffer and his son appear on a couple of TV shows...but only when Frank
said he'd been raised in Switzerland by missionary parents, did it hit me that
he might be Francis Schaeffer's son.

Occassionally, "The Coral Ridge Hour" will show some of the sermons/commentary that
Francis Schaeffer delivered at the Coral Ridge Church.

Looks like living in Boston couldn't even extinguish the moral strain in Frank Schaeffer
or his son.
While it's a heretical thought...this grandfather, son and grandson flow of
being moral fellow looks almost genetic!
132 posted on 03/06/2004 3:06:34 PM PST by VOA
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To: sauropod
This is a great article! May God Bless and protect our soldiers! Thanks for typing this out for us. :)
133 posted on 03/06/2004 3:09:41 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: Burkeman1
How dare you not want to sacrifice your life or the life of a son to spreading Democracy in other lands?

Yawn.

Please supply one tangible bit of evidence that anything we are currently doing in either Iraq or Afghanistan is 'spreading democracy'.

134 posted on 03/06/2004 3:10:01 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Poohbah
We don't want cowards in the army. That's why we don't draft anyone. And, if we ever do have to have a draft, I'm sure you and your sons will be exempt under a "congenital loser" clause.

Amen, brother. This guy is a pacifist and a fool.

135 posted on 03/06/2004 3:19:51 PM PST by ChuckHam
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To: sauropod; MoJo2001; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...
Thanks for typing this, sauropod. Great post.

Forwarding to a few members of the press, military...+.

A fine answer to ANSWER.

Thanks for the ping, MoJo!

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We went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. The military performed brilliantly. But the war was not over in 15 minutes. It wasn't cut to the pace of a TV commercial....Some military parents grew impatient...

How far will Speak Out go in bedding down with the rabble of America-haters that inflict themselves on the rest of us through the worldwide peace movement?

Like myself, most military parents honor the fact that our children took an oath to serve. Most of us are more patient than members of the chattering classes who write editorials about how our American policy is failing in the Middle East...Most military parents know that World War II lasted almost five years. Germany took 20 years to reconstruct. We still have troops in Korea, Japan and Germany. We know that the Middle East is a complex mess and that the chaotic "crescent of instability," stretching from the horn of Africa through the Middle East and all the way to Indonesia, cannot be allowed to continue breeding violent anti-American terrorists.

136 posted on 03/06/2004 3:21:19 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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To: MEG33
Well, we obviously know that...but if there one is implemented at least he would be willing to go..and the Democrats certainly continue to threaten us with one...but you still must register.....
137 posted on 03/06/2004 3:23:04 PM PST by LADYAK
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To: LADYAK
It's been a long time since I had one that age and did not realize one still had to register.
138 posted on 03/06/2004 3:26:38 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Pahuanui
Your question proves that you aren't paying attention, so why anyone would bother answering ....some of us are hopeful that others will wake up.

We have done astounding things in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

If you cared, you'd listen to the troops who are there, volunteering to risk their lives for freedom, and a better future for their families, or listen to the Iraqi people - not the Ba'athists and enemies of America our free press use as sources, but the many bloggers, and the new Iraqi free press...

If you really care, spend a few hours here. Be warned, if you really care, and learn, it will be difficult repeating the popular AP anti-war pap without at least a twinge of a guilty conscience in the future...and you may even lose a few elite, popular friends.

139 posted on 03/06/2004 3:33:50 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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To: MEG33
Thanks. I don't mean to be so passionate about supporting our troops and their efforts in the War on Terror but I can't forget the first battle, The World Trade Center/Pentagon/Penn plane crash. I don't like it when conservatives start to side with ANSWER and the bring them home now crowd. I grew up watching the liberal press convince otherwise intelligent Americans to turn their backs on our troops. I don't want to see it again. If the left wants us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, being there must be a good thing. I just can't bring myself to support anything CPUSA is for when it comes to foriegn policy.
140 posted on 03/06/2004 3:40:48 PM PST by armymarinedad (Patriots love their way of life. Liberals love their lifestyle.)
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