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Al Qaeda again threatens America (Thread 3) Daily Terror Threat
World Tribune ^ | Thursday, February 5, 2004

Posted on 02/05/2004 8:31:17 PM PST by Mossad1967

Edited on 02/09/2004 3:20:18 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Calpernia
Some of the incidents that I recall after 9/11/01 and into 2002 were what seemed like a large number of train derailments. I just did a quick google search on derailments, and these are the most recent. Also derailments in UK, more in Canada, and Australia. These could be a common occurence, maybe the weather this time of the year. The recent train with hazardous chemicals that derailed in MD this past week, piqued my interest into checking on other recent occurences.

2-9-04 -- Lafayette, LA Derailment delays traffic Bad tracks force train off, official says A train rolled off the track Monday on Moss Street, causing at least part of a major thoroughfare to be closed for several hours, much of it during rush-hour traffic

2-10-04 -- MONCTON, Canada— A rail line through northeastern New Brunswick (Canada) remains closed today after two freight cars on the same train jumped the tracks at a river crossing near Bathurst. It's the second derailment to disrupt rail service. A train derailment on Quebec on Saturday is still affecting passenger service.

2-10-04 -- Deepika, India - 18 hours ago Chennai, Feb 10 (UNI) A high-level probe by the Commissioner of Railway Safety has been ordered into last night's derailment of an Electrical Multiple Unit

2-9-04 -- Kansas City -Amtrak derailment in KCK causes minor injuries. An Amtrak train carrying as many as 115 passengers derailed this morning near the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad's Argentine yard in Kansas City, Kan.

2-7-04 --Workers Clear Cars From Cecil Co. Derailment ELKTON, Md. -- Crews worked Sunday to clear and repair the track where 34 cars of a train carrying merchandise and hazardous materials derailed in Cecil County, the freight company said.

2-9-04 -- Cheektowaga, NY, February 9, 2004 A derailment at a Cheektowaga train yard is prompting questions about safety Monday night. Some CSX employees believe the new automated cars are a danger to workers and the public.

1-23-04 --North Charleston, SC - Rail notification procedure reworked after cars carrying munitions skip track The derailment last month of a train carrying military munitions through North Charleston has led to development of an improved procedure to notify state and local authorities about rail emergencies and potential threats to public safety.

2-4-04 -- ELBURN, IL —Officials call Elburn train derailment 'a miracle' A Union Pacific train derailed and rerailed itself early Saturday morning, and village officials are saying it was an absolute miracle that no one was hurt.

2-4-04 -- Jamaica, NY -- A Long Island Rail Road train that derailed Monday at the Jamaica station did not cause any delays during Tuesday's morning rush despite a warning from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

2-2-04 -- Richmond, VA -Derailment delays train service in Richmond A CSX Corp. car carrying molten sulfur left the tracks north of Emporia yesterday.

2,021 posted on 02/10/2004 6:51:07 PM PST by all4one (Major Brian Reed said he responded to Saddam: "President Bush sends his regards.")
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To: Calpernia; FairOpinion; Cindy
Something for those more talented in research than I in the research department...


I was leaving the local Wal mart here in suburban west Atlanta, Thorton road to be exact, and off to the side where 18 wheelers usually park, was a new ford Escape pulling an enclosed aluminum trailer, both with Florida plates.

The trailer was very nice, new, and painted with a logo on all three visible sides. Ferno-Mir...The future of Crisis Management.

When I got home, a google search hit on the following...
Google Ferno Mir


Interesting enough...clicking on the google links won't take you to their website, but copy/pasting the addy in the address bar will take you to their website here
Ferno Mir.com

Here's what I find interesting....

This is a worldwide private sector company making a major bet that money is to be made in future major terrorist attacks in the USA.  Future of Crisis Mangement???

And then there's that Melbourne, Florida address...

Again, I apologize if this is nothing more than my mind running rampant, but I feel Freno-Mir needs a major lookover by someone with more talent than I.



If anyone can figure out their stock symbol, please let me know.

2,022 posted on 02/10/2004 6:51:46 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen (President Bush still has my vote.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Bump!
2,023 posted on 02/10/2004 6:53:03 PM PST by jerseygirl
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To: TexKat
And let's add on to Tex's post here a reminder of that UN Security guard that 'shot himself' and no cause of death was ever released.
2,024 posted on 02/10/2004 6:53:04 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: rickylc
I wasn't referring to the baking soda in that post. I was referring to the incident at Loews.
2,025 posted on 02/10/2004 6:53:58 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: judicial meanz
building a nuke in a bath tub...I don't know why that strikes me as funny.
It's not. I know...maybe I need a vacation.
2,026 posted on 02/10/2004 6:54:05 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Calpernia
Any news come out as to whether these 'Nuns' were wearing full habbits?

I've searched and that's the only article that there is on the strange incident.

2,027 posted on 02/10/2004 6:56:42 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: all4one
here's another one for your collection, I found it this morning

Nuclear or Military Train Takes Tamaroa Mayor's Mind off Chemical Trains

It's one of those black helicopter stories!

2,028 posted on 02/10/2004 6:59:11 PM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: All
Coming up NEXT on FOX NEWS (Greta) her promo was:

"Are sleeper cells among us" and "You'll never guess where sleeper cells..." (sorry, brain cramp, forgot the rest of what she said)

Anyway, Greta coming up next.
2,029 posted on 02/10/2004 6:59:20 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: FairOpinion
Yes. Should we all drive with sun glasses...Even at night ? Just kidding.
2,030 posted on 02/10/2004 7:02:10 PM PST by Revel
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To: Calpernia
Sorry, my mistake. I thought you were conecting the two incidents. (face turning embarassingly red)

2,031 posted on 02/10/2004 7:03:17 PM PST by rickylc
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To: all4one
bump!!!!
2,032 posted on 02/10/2004 7:06:05 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: judicial meanz
"Russia is always behind something in this war on terror."

And their military advisors being in Iraq up to the last minute as we entered Baqhdad was very provocative.
2,033 posted on 02/10/2004 7:10:32 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: All
Truly bizarre:


Italian villagers call for exorcist to end 'demon' fires

JEREMY CHARLES IN ROME

AN ITALIAN village was evacuated yesterday as investigators attempted to explain an outbreak of spontaneous household appliance combustions, which have left locals fearing for their safety.

Fridges, cookers, televisions, washing machines, mobile telephones and furniture have burst into flame for no apparent reason at a dozen houses in the Sicilian village of Canneto di Caronia near Messina. (snipped)
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=165132004
2,034 posted on 02/10/2004 7:19:38 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Private companies are publicly traded on the stock market.
2,035 posted on 02/10/2004 7:28:39 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Very interesting. Keep you eye open, you never know what's important.

It seems like Ferno Mir is either a department or subsidiary of Ferno Solutions http://www.ferno.com and seems they also have a separate page for fernomir.com, which you have found. It seems like they have been on emergency equipment business and they expanded it, based on today's threat situation. They have been in business sinec 1955. I think, when a need exists, there is always someone who steps in. I don't think there is anything sinister about them.


Here is what they say about themeselves:

http://www.ferno.com/solution.php?solution_key=1

and their history:

http://www.ferno.com/solution.php?solution_key=1

There wasn't a stock symbol, when I searched, it's probably privately owned.

As I said, they look to be on the up and up, but I don't want to discourage you or anyone else from being suspicious of things -- rather a hundred or a thousand false alarms, than to miss one real danger, which we could have prevented.




2,036 posted on 02/10/2004 7:33:58 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: rickylc
The message you replied to, I was referring to the Loews.

But yes, I am suspicious of the results from the Windsor Hotel in light of the Loews.

2,037 posted on 02/10/2004 7:34:25 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: All
Bush Opens New Campaign in WMD Fight

JENNIFER LOVEN

Associated Press

WASHINGTON - President Bush is launching a new push for greater international cooperation against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, with particular criticism aimed at the United Nations' nuclear watchdog agency, a senior administration official said.

In a speech Wednesday at the National Defense University, Bush also will outline the role that good U.S. intelligence has played in recent nonproliferation successes in places such as Libya and Pakistan, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Bush has been under renewed fire over the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which were the main rationale for going to war. Last week, he reversed course and established an independent commission to examine prewar intelligence lapses.

On Wednesday, the president planned to sketch the change in the threat from weapons of mass destruction from the Cold War to the post-Sept. 11, 2001, era, the official said. Now, nuclear bombs and other weapons of mass destruction can no longer be considered a tool of last resort in a world where terrorists seek maximum destruction, Bush will argue, reprising a theme of a May 1, 2001, address also at the National Defense University.

Bush will use the disclosure that the father of Pakistan's nuclear program sold nuclear technology to countries such as Iraq, Iran and North Korea as an example of the global nature of the problem, the official said.

After Abdul Qadeer Khan confessed last week to transferring nuclear secrets, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf at first granted him a pardon and then made it dependent on the outcome of an investigation.

Bush planned to show how U.S. intelligence helped prod Musharraf into acting against Khan. While applauding Musharraf for making such a politically risky move, Bush also was to signal the U.S. expectations that Pakistan finish the job of completely dismantling the black market network in which Khan was involved, the official said.

The U.S. intelligence community also was to get presidential praise for helping to bring about Libya's agreement in December with the United States and Britain to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction and missile programs, the official said.

To expand on those successes, Bush will propose ways to strengthen various nonproliferation efforts, primarily by prodding other nations to get more involved and by pushing for greater accountability and effectiveness on the part of international organizations, the official said.

The president was to propose new controls at the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency, for instance. The agency is seen as ineffective by many in the Bush administration who cite the agency's failure to stop weapons programs in Libya, North Korea and other countries.

Bush also was to focus on the need to prevent countries from acquiring nuclear enrichment and reprocessing technology under the guise of building civilian power facilities, the official said.

And he was to renew his call, first made before the U.N. General Assembly last fall, for a new Security Council resolution demanding that all U.N. members enact stricter export controls and criminalize weapons proliferation, the official said.

Democratic Rep. Ellen Tauscher said the president's intentions seemed long on rhetoric and short on action, criticizing him for not stepping up funding for programs to secure Russia's weapons stockpiles and for withdrawing the United States from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

"Since September 11th, the president has rightfully highlighted the threat of terrorist organizations and rogue nations acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction against the United States and our allies," said Tauscher, D-Calif. "At the same time, he has consistently underfunded and even cut the nonproliferation programs that would make the United States safer."

2,038 posted on 02/10/2004 7:36:15 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: FairOpinion; Calpernia
I missed the China tie in as well...shudder! This throws out the window some of the rational of it just being a showcase.
2,039 posted on 02/10/2004 7:36:27 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Velveeta
"You'll never guess where sleeper cells..."

==

No wonder you don't remember more, that is all she said. I have it on, still waiting for the story.

But it could be this story (just a guess):

http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13385817


Al-Qaeda boosts sleeper cells in US


Tuesday, 10 February , 2004, 18:07

Washington: Al-Qaeda is training hundreds of Islamic radicals in Pakistan and Kashmir to send them to "sleeper cells" in the United states, The Washington Times said Tuesday quoting US and foreign officials.
As many as 400 radicals have been trained or are in training in special camps, and dozens have already been routed through Europe to Muslim communities in the United States, said the officials who cited intelligenge data and information from people detained by US authorities.

US intelligence officials said the camps operate in remote regions of western Pakistan and in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir and are financed by various terrorist networks including Al-Qaeda and sources in Saudi Arabia.



2,040 posted on 02/10/2004 7:39:34 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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