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The Top 20 Skirmishes in the Battle Over Homosexuality in the Schools:GRAPHIC CONTENT!
Mission America ^ | Linda Harvey

Posted on 01/26/2004 5:02:11 PM PST by GrandMoM

January 26, 2004

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Intolerance and hatred are ugly attitudes, yet in today’s schools, hostility is often the greeting for traditional values. Adults are likely to be treated like adversaries at their neighborhood schools if they don’t want acceptance of homosexuality or cross-dressing to be a part of youth education.

Nationwide, reports of the suppression of religious freedom and parental rights are coming in as never before, all because educators too often try to mold youth attitudes regardless of what families believe. Many support the acceptance of homosexuality among students and faculty, and will ignore or even deliberately undermine community concerns.

The picture is not all negative, though. There are some signs that America is slowly grasping the depth of the problem. Sometimes it is the advocates of the homosexual agenda whose views are expelled. School officials have lost jobs, projects have been halted and even court decisions have in some cases put an end to the nonsense.

The list of incidents, with both positive and negative outcomes, is growing as the battle intensifies. Here’s a list of twenty recent events/trends in the battle over homosexuality in the schools. It is just a small representation of many such incidents nationwide.

Middle school students were recruited in West Virginia schools to serve on “civil rights action” teams. Students as young as sixth grade were trained by local police to listen for and report statements of peers that were “hateful” regarding homosexuality. The project was funded by the U.S. Safe and Drug Free Schools program. The effort, which originated out of the state Attorney General’s office, came to a halt last year once pro-family groups exposed it through the media. In Maine, 2,000 students attended a Civil Rights Team conference in April 2003 as part of a similar effort in that state. Pro-family volunteers and pastors tried to hand out literature at the conference with a different viewpoint, including testimony of an ex-homosexual. Apparently organizers of this taxpayer-funded event had coached the students in advance, because many students refused to accept the brochures at this conference on “diversity,” where students heard one young woman speaker describe her testosterone hormone therapy to change her gender to male.

A conference for teachers, middle and high school students at Tufts University in March 2000 erupted in a controversy that became known as “Fistgate.” Students at one of the workshops, billed for “youth only ages 14-21,” learned explicit details of high-risk homosexual practices, including the practice of “fisting” which involves the insertion of a fist into a rectum or vagina. The instructors were three professionals from the Massachusetts Departments of Education and Health. A workshop participant secretly taped the workshop and when tapes were released to the public, a firestorm of controversy erupted, but the liberals prevailed in Massachusetts, and the conference has returned to Tufts every year since, just without that particular workshop. GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, one of the conference sponsors, sued the person who taped the workshop and another pro-family activist who wrote about the workshop. It is estimated that these two could incur over $200,000 in legal defense costs. The three workshop instructors were meanwhile dismissed, but one was later re-hired.

The national 2003 Day of Silence (DOS) event, organized by the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), was observed in April by a reported 200,000 students in 2,000 middle and high schools. Students and some teachers remained silent all day to protest “discrimination” against homosexuals. At Evansville High School in Wisconsin, Christian students who countered the DOS by praying and sharing Bible verses in the school commons were given unexcused absences. The Silence students, by contrast, were permitted to publicize the event through posters and over the intercom, as well as being given a “safe room” for use that day if they believed they were being harassed.

Over 2,000 people protested the forced establishment of a homosexual club at the high school in Boyd County (Ashland) Kentucky. The ACLU sued the school which eventually succumbed to pressure. The club proceeded as an approved non-curricular activity in 2003.

In Novato, CA (Marin County), parents sued the schools after a pro-homosexual play called “Cootie Shots” was shown to two elementary schools. Parental opt-out forms were ignored and children saw the play without parental notification or approval. The play portrays those who don’t accept homosexuality as hateful and bigoted. The suit was dismissed by parents in 2003. The former principal had been replaced by a parent-friendly administrator, and a working parental opt-out program established. “Cootie Shots” includes the song, to be performed by a grade school age boy, “Mommy’s High Heels,” in which the boy is supposed to proudly reveal he’s wearing his mom’s shoes.

Belying the usual claims that homosexual clubs for youth don’t focus on homosexual sex, members of California “gay-straight alliances” (GSA’s) marched in the San Francisco Gay Pride parade on June 29, 2003.These high school and some middle school students mingled alongside openly nude men and topless women as well as proponents of sado-masochism. Simulated sex acts were performed along the parade route, and signs like “Sodomize me, it’s legal!” celebrated the recent Supreme Court decision overturning Texas’ sodomy law. Police stood quietly by and made no attempt to arrest the naked celebrants. The homosexual advocate group GLSEN (the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network) brought many of the GSA members to the parade in a yellow school bus. The organization PFLAG (Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) also marched in the parade.

At Murphy Junior High School in Stony Creek, NY (Long Island) in 2002, a middle school homosexual club was formed following an “outreach” effort by the homosexual club at the local high school. The author of a graphic homosexual novel called Rainbow Boys was invited to speak to the middle school group. This book includes graphic descriptions of heterosexual oral sex as well as homosexual anal sex between a 17 year-old boy and an adult male he recently met via the Internet. Parents and students who objected to the high school and middle school promotion of homosexuality were reportedly verbally harassed to the point of police involvement. As a result, the principal of the middle school and several teachers have reportedly left the school.

At James Madison High School, Vienna, VA, students heard a homosexual man, formerly married with children but now living with a homosexual lover, speak at a school assembly in March 2003 on the need for homosexuals to be able to adopt children. The speech was part of “Sexual Equality Awareness Week.” One class called “Combating Intolerance” gave extra credit for attending presentations by PFLAG (Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays). No opposing viewpoint was offered to students. Reportedly, PFLAG brochures are distributed to guidance counselors at the school. (For a review of PFLAG’s acceptance of sexually deviant activities, see Mission America’s report, “The World According to PFLAG: Why PFLAG and Children Don’t Mix” at www.missionamerica.com .)

The award-winning student news publication of Upper Arlington High School, Columbus, OH, published a ten page insert in April 2001 about “growing up gay.” It featured a detailed biography of a “gay” male student, including abuse by his father, and his visits to homosexual bars. Sidebar articles included one depicting Exodus International and ex-homosexuals as frauds, and repeating unsubstantiated claims about one man’s return to homosexuality, without contacting him for a statement. Another sidebar spoke glowingly about a local church which performed homosexual commitment ceremonies. Phone numbers and web sites supporting youth homosexuality were also published. One letter in opposition and a paid ad about coming out of homosexuality were the only opposing viewpoints offered in a later issue. Administration officials supported the publication’s right to publish this misleading material.

In St. Paul, Minnesota, high school student Elliott Chambers was suspended for wearing a sweatshirt with the message “Straight Pride” and a drawing of a man and woman holding hands. He wore the shirt after witnessing the school’s heavy promotion of homosexuality, including the posting of numerous “safe zone” pink triangles in classrooms and offices throughout the school. The principal told Chambers and his parents they were “homophobes.” A U.S. District court ruled that Elliott could return to school and that his rights had been violated.

In Arcata, California in 2002, a ninth grade class was instructed by a guest speaker from Planned Parenthood to form a circle. The speaker posed questions and students who responded affirmatively remained standing. When asked, “Do you have a religious belief about homosexuality that considers it a sin and wrong?” the remaining students were subjected to hostile follow-up questions.

At Pioneer High School in Ann Arbor, MI in 2002, a homosexual club demanded that the school’s Christian Club adopt a policy of “non-discrimination” based on sexual orientation, as the school itself had done. The Christian club refused, citing its religious beliefs and constitutional rights. After a threatened law suit by the Christian club, the homosexual club backed off. In addition, the school changed its policy.

Over 100 “safe zone” pink triangles decorated the doors of classrooms and offices at a school in Olympia Fields, IL in 2002. These are used by homosexual activists to designate acceptance of homosexuality and by implication, to stigmatize those who object. School board members voted to have them removed after parent objections.

In the San Leandro CA school district, a married teacher won a case in 2002 defended by the National Education Association after he talked to his class about respecting “gays, lesbians and bisexuals.” Parents complained and the teacher was reprimanded. He sued and won the case based on his rights of free speech.

Parent Mary Clossey complained about her son’s reading requirement at Newton North High School in Newton Massachusetts in 2001. It included the book, The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky which included passages on sex between a boy and a dog, man-boy sex, anal sex between boys, male masturbation and female masturbation with a hot dog. Her calls to the mayor were never returned and school officials were disrespectful, so she filed a criminal complaint against the teacher for corrupting a minor. But after trying repeatedly, she was never able to meet with the district attorney. Clossey discovered that the book was on a reading list given to every student. She received a letter from the district attorney informing her that the state’s schools and libraries were immune from laws relating to exposing children to pornography.

School boards in Portage, MI and Winston Salem, NC both nixed adding “sexual orientation” to their school districts non-discrimination policies in 2002. Such policies, now in effect in many U.S. schools, have been used to force pro-homosexual clubs, curricula and events on schools.

Parent Debra Loveless of St. Louis sued Metro High School after trying to attend a school event sponsored by GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network. Loveless was blocked from the school assembly and ushered out of the school by an armed official. She had already exempted her daughter from attending, but wanted to observe the content first-hand.

After a bitter and controversial battle, the school district of Broward County, FL (Fort Lauderdale) voted in 2002 to allow the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network to provide tolerance training for psychologists, teachers and social workers at its schools over the next five years. (For more information about the sexually deviant practices accepted by GLSEN, see our paper, “Children At Risk,” on the Mission America web site at www.missionamerica.com .)

The 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in Minnesota ruled in 2002 that Carla Cruzan, a teacher at Southwest High School, had to share a restroom with a cross-dressing male librarian. The male, David Nielsen, now goes by the name of Debra Davis. He wanted to be able to use the same general restroom as the female staff. Many of the female staff were reportedly unhappy with the arrangement, but Cruzan was the only one who sued. She was told by the court she should use a unisex single restroom if she preferred.

In Wilmette, IL, middle school principal Donald Reed returned to school as Deanna Reed in the fall of 2001 after sex change surgery over the summer. Instead of dismissing the principal, the district retained him and held “counseling” opportunities for students and parents to smooth over the transition. A male art teacher in Eastchester, NY returned to school as a woman, and a Northbook, IL science teacher also had female-to-male sex change surgery before returning to her/his teaching post.

Again, these are just a sample of many, many similar incidents around the country. If you have news about the promotion of homosexuality in your schools, please let us know by e-mailing us at editor@missionamerica.com .

° Get the latest on the agenda for same-sex "marriage" ° Is the Da Vinci Code Christian? ° Parents Against Bad Books in Schools – Get info on porn-laden school "literature" ° Hollywood's Distorted Picture of So-Called "Homophobes" ° Abercrombie Pulls Porn Kids' Catalog - Is It Permanent? ° Christian Witness to a Pagan Planet ° Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood

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To: GrandMoM
At James Madison High School, Vienna, VA, students heard a homosexual man, formerly married with children but now living with a homosexual lover, speak at a school assembly in March 2003 on the need for homosexuals to be able to adopt children.

Let me get this straight (pun intended). A man who abandoned his children by birth is a spokesqueer for adoption?????

Shalom.

41 posted on 01/27/2004 9:24:23 AM PST by ArGee ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." - George W. Bush)
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To: nhguy78
Gay pride... straight pride - side by side

Do people have a right to be mentally ill?

Shalom.

42 posted on 01/27/2004 9:46:24 AM PST by ArGee ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." - George W. Bush)
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To: cspackler
I fully intend to send my daughter to kindergarten this fall, and if we really want our schools back, we can get back inside, get involved and do everything we can to take them back.

You may be ready to be a culture warrior, but your 5 year old daugher probably is not.

I'm not judging your choice, just making sure you understand the choice you are making.

Shalom.

43 posted on 01/27/2004 9:47:27 AM PST by ArGee ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." - George W. Bush)
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To: RonF
There are such things as "swingers' clubs" that operate openly in many areas, including nice surburban neighborhoods. I believe there are web sites, too

There may well be. I've never seen one or heard of one outside the democrat zones.

The questions remains though, have you seen any adultery-pride parades? Or seen the adulterers recruiting in the high schools?

44 posted on 01/27/2004 9:52:52 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: ArGee
You may be ready to be a culture warrior, but your 5 year old daugher probably is not.

OK, we really do need a reality check. This is still kindergarten, not the back alleys of Baghdad. (Which are safer that the back alleys of DC...) We don't have to go in like it's a battle zone, we just have to slowly change the culture so that the teachers of the future aren't brainwashed. It's a slow process, and I hope my daughter will be one who will stand up for her beliefs (even if they are not the same as mine) as opposed to running and hiding.

45 posted on 01/27/2004 11:09:42 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Lucky Dog
Sometimes it's just enough to know where they live.

And that's all I'm gonna say here...
46 posted on 01/27/2004 11:31:28 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: cspackler
We don't have to go in like it's a battle zone,

If the are, you do.

we just have to slowly change the culture so that the teachers of the future aren't brainwashed.

The problem is, it's the teachers who are doing the brainwashing and your child will be the recipient.

It's a slow process, and I hope my daughter will be one who will stand up for her beliefs (even if they are not the same as mine) as opposed to running and hiding.

I agree with you fully, but she will be ill equipped to do that as a 5 year old. She will be well equipped to do that as an 18 year old. She may be well equipped before then.

You are in a battle zone whether you realize it or not. The other side will throw everything at you and your daughter to win. You may be ready for that. Is she?

Shalom.

47 posted on 01/27/2004 11:54:48 AM PST by ArGee ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." - George W. Bush)
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To: ArGee; cspackler; scripter
Teaching Kindergarten Kids About 'Human Differences' and Homosexuality Isn't 'Easy' in Newton

It's Elementary: Gay and Lesbian Issues in the Classroom

Education Exchange, November/December 1998

"Often, portions of the video are shown in classrooms with children as young as kindergarten, a practice that Concerned Women for America has labeled "an aggressive new national campaign." A columnist with the New York Post characterized It's Elementary as "78-minutes of relentless propaganda to advance the acceptance of homosexuality, as distinct from tolerance."

(Gay) School Days

"What would schools look like if they were run by homosexual activists? In California, parents are learning the answer.

PARENTAL ADVISORY: Portions of this article may be inappropriate for young readers.

"...All the second- through fifth-graders at Pleasant Valley School had been called to an assembly, where they learned slogans like "I'm gay and it's OK," reinforced by various skits-like one in which Rapunzel cut her hair and ran away with her girlfriend. The show made an impact. "Daddy, am I a lesbian?" one third-grade girl asked. "I like girls better than boys." The group behind the assembly bore an innocent-sounding name, Cootie Shots. But it turned out to be an offshoot of Fringe Benefits, a theater group that gets public funds for "tolerance of diversity" performances in high schools and middle schools throughout the Los Angeles Unified School District. Now the group is targeting much younger kids, because-in the words of a longtime Fringe Benefits booster, Steven Hicks of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) of Los Angeles-"It is imperative to begin addressing these issues in the elementary schools as early as possible."..."


Psychiatrist "Reassures" Parents About Lesbian Experimentation

"...The article describes a parent-faculty meeting at The Spence School, a private enclave overlooking Central Park, where several eighth-grade girls had declared themselves "bisexual." The school called in a Harvard-educated psychiatrist, Dr. Justin Richardson--himself a gay man--to reassure the parents that lesbian experimentation is common, and that it was too soon to know if they would be lesbians or heterosexuals.

At the all-girl Brearly School two weeks earlier, Dr. Richardson told a parent group to advise their daughters as young as nine years old that they, too, may have sex with other girls in the future. "It is a good idea," he said, "to mention that people have sex with members of the same sex sometimes, and that when they grow up they may have friends that do that--and that it may be something that they themselves do."

"A small but growing number of students," the Times article reported, "have come out at these schools, or at least say that bisexuality is stylish." Parents are concerned, and Dr. Richardson--"pedigreed, carefully-spoken, determinedly nonthreatening--has become the schools' gay issues consultant of choice" because he is "sane and clear," according to the Spence headmaster..."


Targeting Children - Part two: How the homosexual movement uses public schools as instruments of change

"GLSEN activist and New York kindergarten teacher Jaki Williams said starting in kindergarten is a must, since children at that age are still developing their ideas about the world around them. Even at that age, she said, “the saturation process needs to begin.” Williams, in fact, is a model teacher when it comes to this “saturation” process. She regularly initiates conversations with her children by reading to them such controversial books as Heather Has Two Mommies, Daddy’s Roommate, and One Dad, Two Dads, Browns Dads, Blue Dads. She also hosts a viewing of the video Both of My Moms’ Names Are Judy: Children of Lesbians and Gays Speak Out, produced by a San Francisco pro-homosexual advocacy group. According to one writer for The Lambda Report, who infiltrated a 1997 GLSEN workshop, one former teacher admitted that changing the mind of a child required more than a one-time effort. She said she had to expose her children to a constant stream of homosexual words and images, because "It’s really a conditioning process."

'Parents' No Longer Recognized By Schools - Daycare Centers Are Closely Monitored

Veteran Teacher Traumatized at Fistgate - Keeping children out of sex-ed doesn't guarantee safety, says teacher

Focus on Education - Never Too Young to Indoctrinate

48 posted on 01/27/2004 1:21:43 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
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To: EdReform
BTTT
49 posted on 01/28/2004 9:48:04 AM PST by GrandMoM ("Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit," says the Lord Almighty. {Zechariah 4:6})
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To: GrandMoM
Bump! Hope all is well with you and your family!
50 posted on 01/31/2004 8:00:09 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
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To: EdReform
Thanks, ALL is well!!!
51 posted on 01/31/2004 8:08:07 AM PST by GrandMoM ("The earnest prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power available! {James 5:16})
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To: GrandMoM
And the WINNER is...

In St. Paul, Minnesota, high school student Elliott Chambers was suspended for wearing a sweatshirt with the message “Straight Pride” and a drawing of a man and woman holding hands. He wore the shirt after witnessing the school’s heavy promotion of homosexuality, including the posting of numerous “safe zone” pink triangles in classrooms and offices throughout the school. The principal told Chambers and his parents they were “homophobes.” A U.S. District court ruled that Elliott could return to school and that his rights had been violated.

52 posted on 01/31/2004 8:31:37 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: GrandMoM
bump

Also, just thinking aloud...

Could health become a 'wedge' issue to split the PC crowd and the apathetic mainstream from the homosexual activists? I believe a pretty clear case could be made that promiscuity has caused serious health problems.

If we promoted Abstinence and Monogamy more, doesn't that confront the homosexual agenda? As this article shows, much of the homosexual movement is tied to sexual abandon. Is there such a thing, for example, as platonic love between two gay men? Or any abstinence before a gay relationship?

BTW, promoting abstinence and monogamy will get a lot of hetero people back to healthier view of their own sexuality, and of what constitutes entertainment, appropriate public behavior, and a clear perspective on what is just deviant in the world around us.

Just a thought,

-- Joe
53 posted on 02/07/2004 1:53:06 PM PST by Joe Republc
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To: GrandMoM; All
Anyone wanna help me give a answer to this homosexual from another website?

"Why do straight people feel the need to CONSTANTLY flaunt their sexuality?

I swear to god, every other sentence that comes out of the mouths of people I work with is "my boyfriend..." "my husband..." "my kids..." "my girlfriend..." "my wife..." blah blah blah! Keep it to yourself! JEEZ take a lesson from the fags. NO ONE CARES.

54 posted on 02/07/2004 1:59:37 PM PST by expatguy
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To: expatguy
Yeah, he's a try.

"Because people like to talk and get to know each other. Even at work, people like to have some kind of cordial relationships and get to know each other. It's just normal.

If I had eating problems and felt bad at myself for it, I might get bothered by people talking about great meals and great restaurants. If I was crippled and felt bad about myself for it, I would resent people talking about the fun they had playing sports over the weekend.

If I felt bad about my sexuality or lack of relationships, I would resent people matter-of-factly talking about their healthy heterosexual relationships.

In short, that guy has a chip on his shoulder.

-- Joe
55 posted on 02/07/2004 2:41:19 PM PST by Joe Republc
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To: Joe Republc
Yeah, he's a try.

typo, should be...

Yeah, here' a try.
56 posted on 02/07/2004 2:41:59 PM PST by Joe Republc
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To: Joe Republc
oh, nevrmind...
57 posted on 02/07/2004 2:42:21 PM PST by Joe Republc
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To: GrandMoM
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 

58 posted on 08/22/2013 6:51:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

what in the sam hill caused this thread to be resurrected? just wonderin’


59 posted on 08/22/2013 7:00:32 PM PDT by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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