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How Bush could lose it
OC Register ^ | 1/25/04 | John Hood

Posted on 01/25/2004 10:34:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:06:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President George W. Bush blew it Tuesday night. He delivered a State of the Union address that downplayed his most promising - and potentially revolutionary - domestic-policy initiatives. Earlier drafts had reportedly contained a lengthy exposition of his vision of an "ownership society," expanded and strengthened by tax changes and Social Security reform.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; couldloseit; electionpresident; gwb2004; reform; socialsecurity
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To: MEG33
I live in the Appalachians where 80% of the people are descended from Scots/Irish/Welsh/Austrian settlers.
Every single one of is capable of picking up a flag and leading the charge into battle.
Trouble is, every single one of us would carrying our *own* particular flag, charging all by ourselves with no one else behind us and only by luck would we all arrive at the *same* battle!...LOL!

I must work very hard to overcome those tendencies and act in the interest of the whole....;)

241 posted on 01/25/2004 4:32:50 PM PST by Salamander (Sal O'Mander)
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To: eleni121
would you be comfortable doing away with homeland security?

If you mean the dressed up version of a police state complete with the patriot act, yes absolutely.

Richard W.

242 posted on 01/25/2004 4:39:05 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Best reason to vote for GWB is he's the sitting Commander in Chief during a time of war, a war that we must not lose. In that respect there's no one else I'd entrust to deal with it.

But that doesn't equate into long coattails. Most of the arguments I've read here are spot on. Love that expression "Dance with them that brung ya". Still time for that maybe. AWB would be a chance.

Hate to hear we now have to establish we aren't disruptors to express a conservative complaint about a less-than-conservative president.

243 posted on 01/25/2004 4:40:06 PM PST by kcar (A tax slave who feels like an enabler.)
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To: Salamander
LOL!
244 posted on 01/25/2004 4:41:02 PM PST by MEG33
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To: snickeroon
I want to live in the nation we were founded to be, not the one that was taken over to serve as a slavemaster for the globalist federation. Where is that nation? Where are those patriots? Who is THAT leader?

Some would argue that he was Jefferson Davis.

( but that's a whole different can of worms )...;)

245 posted on 01/25/2004 4:41:17 PM PST by Salamander (Sal O'Mander)
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To: Jorge
Guess you guys all regret that Gore didn't win in 2000.

I regret that Bush turned out to be just another pretender.

Richard W.

246 posted on 01/25/2004 4:43:02 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: kcar
I have expressed complaint and not been called a disrupter.I also strongly support the election of George Bush.
247 posted on 01/25/2004 4:43:14 PM PST by MEG33
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To: David
How will Hillary be worse than George II?

Think Supreme Court appointees.

Think abortion.

Think Affirmative Action.

Think judicial activism.

248 posted on 01/25/2004 4:45:12 PM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Well said, Irish. And, please thank your sons and your brother for their service to our great country. God bless them, you and your family for the sacrifices made for the rest of us.
249 posted on 01/25/2004 4:47:42 PM PST by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: 13foxtrot
I would rather put Demos in...

What do you hold most against Bush?

Not signing onto Kyoto?
Stopping federal funding of abortions?
Refusing to sign on to U.N. Crimes Court?
Outlawing partial birth abortion?
Repealing OSHA's new ergonomic regulations that were about to put every home-based business in America out of commission?
Canceling the ABM treaty with the defunct USSR, and refunding our National Missile Defense program?
Restoring irrigation water to Klamath Falls farmers?
His support for faith based initiatives?
His tax cuts?
His war on TERROR - Taking it to the enemy?

You think Gore would have done any of these things?

The idea that some so-called conservatives would rather give us a Democrat President than vote for Bush, just because they don't get everything they want is really sad.

250 posted on 01/25/2004 4:48:26 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It
How will Hillary be worse than George II?


if you dont know, then you deserve to be carried off by jack-booted thugs in the middle of the night

251 posted on 01/25/2004 4:49:06 PM PST by lsmith1990
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To: Jorge
I used to call that throwing a tantrum when the grand son was young.
252 posted on 01/25/2004 4:51:03 PM PST by MEG33
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To: Jorge
The Rove Republicans have accomplished some good things but it seems they are not acting on principle but on "pandering." In the spirit of pandering, naturally, some of things they do will be appreciated by conservatives.

The Farm Bill and immigration. et al, are inconsistent with the more conservative items you listed. Which indicates a lack of principled leadership.

It would be different if big-goverment-entitlement programs were Democratic initiatives that were begrudgingly accepted as part of the normal democratic process of give and take - but that was not the case. These inconsistent policies were willfully brought forth and promoted by the Rove Replublicans to pander to certain special interests at the expense of their core base.
253 posted on 01/25/2004 4:57:37 PM PST by 13foxtrot
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To: MEG33
Of course vote for GWB due to war. But why give him a majority in Congress if domestically he is in favor of Big Government, especially if it turns out that that "majority" is a de facto minority because of all the RINOs? Better to "waste" your vote than vote for a RINO.
254 posted on 01/25/2004 4:58:58 PM PST by kcar (A tax slave who feels like an enabler.)
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To: kcar
Of course vote for GWB due to war.

You should have quit right there while you were ahead. The rest is political gibberish.

255 posted on 01/25/2004 5:04:42 PM PST by Consort
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To: Salamander
Er, uh....see your point, sort of....but it's a can I 'd rather leave on the shelf.

It's just so hard for me (and from the posts on many different threads) for many of us to see America, the REAL United States of America, disappear before our very eyes. Really, I'm not so naive that I don't understand that "politics as usual" is being played....

Sure, W is outplaying the dems by stripping them of campaign promises. Even as this happens the more militant push harder on the old standbys of abortion "rights" (how can there be ANYTHING right about something so wrong), and "gun control," etc. etc. But there comes a time when I expect someone who is not afraid to announce that he is a BELIEVER, to obey the Bible's mandate to nations to SUPPORT and STAND WITH Israel....no matter what the cost.

I expect him to afford the CITIZENS of the nation he was ELECTED to lead, far more consideration than he would those who break laws left and right to sneak in. They DON'T deserve ANY consideration. They need to be shipped back, immediately, and the groups that are so vocal about the rights of the non-citizens need to be told that amnesty is not an option. If they don't like it then perhaps they should be activists in Mexico.

Instead, the Pres. seems to have a weak spot for Fox"s every whim. Along with a lot of other whims that add up to some really confusing bottom lines. Need some for instances? Well.... why was steroids in a State of the Union address? Do we NEED to be colonizing Mars and/or the moon (does he know something we don't?) What happened to the ideas of educational vouchers? Why does he place more emphasis on illegals when OVERWHELMING poll figures make our majority view clear? If we are in a war on terror, why and when will Homeland Security do as they demand us to do? Open borders seem to be of a great deal MORE concern than making sure our credit reports are good enough to allow us to fly on planes..... and the beat drones on....
256 posted on 01/25/2004 5:11:49 PM PST by snickeroon
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To: Consort
Gibberish or not that's how I am hardwired. Not willing to vote for weak or ingenuine representatives who want to spend, spend and speak as though they want smaller government but actually vote another way, and appear to enjoy the good life in the governing class at my expense. Would like to see the Republicans work for my vote, not just assume it. Don't want a handout either. Just keep governemnts' hands off. Is that gibberish? Been doing that all my life.
257 posted on 01/25/2004 5:13:31 PM PST by kcar (A tax slave who feels like an enabler.)
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To: arete
If you are not willing to defend freedom you don't deserve it.
258 posted on 01/25/2004 5:20:16 PM PST by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent)
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To: eleni121
If you are not willing to defend freedom you don't deserve it.

My point exactly. We need to defend the constitution against the war and fear mongers who are pushing us into a police state with more "homeland" security and partiot acts. The administration is trying to make everyone believe that if they yell "terrorism/terrorist" a hundred times a day, they can trash the constitution and rob us of our freedoms and liberties. People had better wake up to where the real threat to freedom is coming from.

Richard W.

259 posted on 01/25/2004 5:26:12 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: arete
What a strange and convoluted response. Very doctrinaire actually.

I suppose when Al Qaeda starts bombing your hometown you will wake up and defend it...does that kinda sum it up for you?

260 posted on 01/25/2004 5:31:54 PM PST by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent)
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