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Two Tancredo’s Two Too Many for Bush Administration
azconservative.org ^ | 01/20/2004 | By Dennis Durband, Editor

Posted on 01/20/2004 9:05:55 AM PST by VU4G10

Colorado Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo is a thorn in Karl Rove’s side, to say the least. Tancredo favors border controls; the president and many in Congress do not. Rove, the president’s senior advisor, is attempting to find someone to run against Cong. Tancredo in this year’s election. So far, he has no takers. After all, Tancredo won re-election in 2002 with a 70-percent majority, and no mentally-balanced person would want to challenge such a formidable foe. It would be a waste of time and money.

Many Arizona conservatives are urging State Rep. Russell Pearce to run against Cong. Jeff Flake in District 6 this year. Pearce is a senior advisor to the popular Protect Arizona Now (PAN) initiative. If placed on the 2004 ballot, and if voters support it as expected, PAN would actually require proof of citizenship for things of some importance, such as voting. The White House, state and national GOP leadership favor the president’s Temporary Worker Program and the Flake-McCain-Kolbe guest worker bill, which amount to nothing more than amnesty for millions of foreign invaders.

Now the stage is set: two diametrically-opposed sides with sharply-contrasting views on the border invasion. Tancredo and Pearce are advocating tighter controls of the borders and a stoppage of the drain on American taxpayers caused by the border invasion. The corporate appeasers want to dissolve the borders.

The worst thing in Rove’s world would be to lose Flake and have Pearce replace him through the election process. Rove wants to subtract Tancredo and isn’t going to succeed in that aim. He sure doesn’t want Pearce -- another Tancredo -- going to Washington, D.C., a year from now. Two Tancredo’s are two too many, in the view of the Bush Administration. However, most Republicans would love to see Tancredo and Pearce representing them in Congress.

How motivated are those who oppose Tancredo and Pearce? Let's put things into proper perspective and look at some very recent history.

Some influential and well-connected people have recently suggest that Barnes may be a set-up, a plant to dilute a potential Pearce candidacy by splitting votes between Flake's would-be challengers. Barnes is a moderate who's totally with President Bush.

On Dec. 31, Rep. Pearce was getting ready to appear as a guest on Salt Lake City Radio Station KSL's “Born on the 4th of July" program, hosted by Barbara Jean. It appeared that this would be just another of the many state/regional/national media appearances Pearce would make on the border controversy. As it turned out, this was no ordinary day.

Arizona people listening on the Internet reported that the Salt Lake City station's power went down and the show’s producers were having trouble with outgoing broadcasting and incoming calls. Just bad luck? Tampering? Sun spots? Possibly any of the above, but we're just getting warmed up. There's more to the story.

Fast forward to last week when Pearce was getting ready to guest-host two hours of Ernie Hancock's show on KFNX Radio in Phoenix. Guess what? The station reported losing power and similar problems as the Utah station had experienced. Pearce claims a car accident damaged a nearby power source. But wait: we're still not done.

Rusty Childress, co-chairman of PAN, was a guest on KJZZ Radio, of Mesa, last week ... and guess what happened? The call-in lines went dead.

On Saturday night, Kathy McKee, the other co-chair of PAN, tried to call KFNX Radio to be the guest on the "Mad as Hell" program. ''To make a long story short, I couldn't get in .. . . because the phone lines went down at 10:45 p.m.,'' McKee said. ''They had to call me and patch me in, but then callers couldn't call in.'' Hmmm ... mighty, mighty interesting series of events.

Also, last week GOPUSA/Arizona posted two separate Internet polls on the Congressional District 6 race. The first poll appeared on the Internet for three days and queried readers as to their choice between Barnes and the incumbent Flake. This was a poll that did not get much traction or generate much excitement. Barnes received 22 of the 40 total votes cast, with Flake garnering 13 votes and the third option: “other” getting five votes.

In mid-week, the poll changed to add Pearce to the mix. Almost as quickly as the poll went up, some unknown person(s) with great technical expertise -- possibly some of it legal -- developed a very keen interest in the poll. It became readily apparent that the insertion of Pearce’s name had tripped the sensor of someone very interested in one Arizona congressional seat.

Within 12 hours, 188 votes showed up on the poll screen. Flake and Barnes were neck and neck; Pearce did not show up on the radar. A short time later, the vote tally reached 240 and Flake began to pull away from Barnes. Pearce barely registered a heartbeat with a 3-percent showing.

Then a remarkable thing happened for the first time in the 20-month history of GOPUSA/Arizona polls: The numbers actually went down -- from 240 total votes to 75. And Pearce’s numbers dropped to zero.

Then the vote tally started racing wildly upward. In the next few hours, the vote total pushed toward 2,000. Flake was winning big and Pearce was staying at zero percent, even though his supporters informed me they were starting to vote for him -- and starting to wonder why their tallies were not showing up. In one 10-minute period, 100 new votes went up on the board.

The next morning, the vote total continued to balloon, reaching nearly 4,800. It had been less than 36 hours since the poll was posted on the Internet. Flake had a lead of 2-1 over Barnes, and Pearce registered a faint glimmer with one percent of the vote.

As emails started coming in from bewildered people watching the poll, GOPUSA’s CEO, Bobby Eberle, was alerted about the dubious nature of the poll. Whoever was tampering with this poll had all the guile of a Pampalona bull on its way to Barcelona.

A short time later, Eberle confirmed that someone had indeed hacked into the system. He advised that the poll be removed to get the hacker out of the system. A new poll was quickly posted. Over the next several hours, only a trickle of new votes came in on the new poll. Someone no longer had any interest in GOPUSA/Arizona polls.

Looking again at the bogus poll results, one more strange occurrence was discovered. The poll totals now sat at 4,514 votes, a decline of nearly 300 votes in the last few minutes. Flake had 2,880 “votes,” Barnes had 1,560, Pearce 66 and the “other” option had four votes. Whomever tampered with Flake’s vote total obviously took Barnes’ total up in an effort to make it look like a second contestant was registering believable vote totals. Nice try, but it didn’t work. Nice, illegal try.

The 4,514 votes represented a higher number than the total number of votes cast in all the GOPUSA/Arizona poll votes for the entire year of 2003.

Now the big questions: Who has an interest in the re-election of Cong. Flake? Who has an interest in undermining Rep. Pearce? Is the hacker just some kid down the street who likes to play games with other people’s websites? Was it a political organization or a political operative acting on someone’s orders? Who would care enough about this particular poll to risk a visit from the FBI for hacking?

The answers, as of this moment, are unknown, but the questions are legitimate.

As of Sunday night, Eberle had not responded to queries about whether or not he was able to discern the identity of the hacker, or if he had reported the crime to authorities.

One footnote: Just as Cong. Tom Tancredo concluded his address to the Arizona Republican Assembly in Scottsdale Saturday morning, the power went out in the auditorium. Russell Pearce was in that room; he had introduced Tancredo. Two Tancredo’s is two too many for some people.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; arizona; bushrovefox; illegalaliens; karlrove; nationalsecurity; tancredo
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1 posted on 01/20/2004 9:05:55 AM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10
Cindy McCain?....Jake Plummer?
2 posted on 01/20/2004 9:08:41 AM PST by ken5050
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To: VU4G10
Karl Rove is asinine. If he's a political guru, he knows the American people are against amnesty and blatant giveaways to illegal aliens. Tom Tancredo and Russell Pearce mirror the national mood on the subject. Too bad the President won't give them the time of day.
3 posted on 01/20/2004 9:09:58 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: VU4G10
Karl Rove is a traitorous piece of S***!
4 posted on 01/20/2004 9:12:32 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Bush and Co. are quickly convincing me that the Constitution Party is our only hope.)
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To: VU4G10
Dude, this guy's supporting Tancredo and complaining about internet polls!!!

He might break the moron meter!

5 posted on 01/20/2004 9:13:25 AM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: VU4G10
I find The Arizona Conservative guilty of apostrophe abuse.
6 posted on 01/20/2004 9:14:14 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina (How 'bout those CAROLINA PANTHERS!)
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To: VU4G10
How motivated are those who oppose Tancredo and Pearce? Let's put things into proper perspective and look at some very recent history.

Who's misleading Bush?

7 posted on 01/20/2004 9:17:55 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

"Let my Tancredos go!" -- Willie

8 posted on 01/20/2004 9:26:10 AM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: goldstategop
I'm wondering if the faves of labor (Gephardt and Dean) taking a beating in Iowa means that voters are sick of unions that don't choose candidates who protect our borders, oppose NAFTA/WTO, and are sick of workers losing jobs.

Maybe unions will come around and get it, that average US citizens they pretend to represent, want candidates such as Tom Tancredo? Maybe union leadership will get on the bandwagon.

When pigs fly?

9 posted on 01/20/2004 9:28:07 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: VU4G10
EITC.

If Bush's plan passes and the illegals start paying taxes won't they qualify for EITC? If they do won't they be getting much more from the tax system than they pay in? After all these are mostly low paying jobs we are talking about.
10 posted on 01/20/2004 9:32:33 AM PST by DMCA (TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
The Apostrophe Protection Society
11 posted on 01/20/2004 9:38:42 AM PST by Consort
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To: VU4G10
I'm wondering if Tancredo and Pearce should get all of my political donations this year.

Maybe all who are upset with this administration's immigration policy should give to Tom and let him distribute the excess.
12 posted on 01/20/2004 9:49:12 AM PST by WayneM (Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan). Call your elected officials and say "NO!!")
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To: Bikers4Bush
No kidding. I'd like to tell him that if I'd wanted a dimwitted socialist bent on destroying the nation, I would have voted for Gore.
13 posted on 01/20/2004 9:49:48 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: WayneM
I just sent an e-mail to Tancredo to that effect. Asking him for a list of people he would donate to.
14 posted on 01/20/2004 9:50:25 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Bush and Co. are quickly convincing me that the Constitution Party is our only hope.)
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To: VU4G10
"Rove, the president’s senior advisor, is attempting to find someone to run against Cong. Tancredo in this year’s election.

I guess honoring one's oath of office and truly representing one's district is the wrong approach for today's gop......

15 posted on 01/20/2004 9:52:43 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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Tom Tancredo's rhetoric may be over the top on occasion, but when it comes to the issue of immigration policy and illegal aliens, he's in tune with mainstream America. It's quite obvious that the President was pandering to the pro-amnesty/open borders contingent of Hispanic's, pandering politicians, hardcore leftwingers, social liberals and libertarians. For the most part, these political factions aren't part of the Bush constituency and never will be. Thereby, they can be of no value to Bush`s reelection. But if Bush can increase his support among Hispanic's on election day, he'll have an insurance policy of sorts that will help him secure victory. It makes for a good stump speech, but its lousy policy.
16 posted on 01/20/2004 9:57:45 AM PST by Reagan Man (The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY in 2004)
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To: VU4G10
Karl Rove is a leftist POS, and GWB is allowing him to lead this administration to the ash-heap of history. Their plan seems to be "when in doubt, or when frightened, head left." Do they not read trends very well? -- after every left turn, the Prez's numbers go straight down.

The only thing that has helped Bush's numbers has been success in the WOT --- victory in Afghanistan and Iraq, Saddam's capture, etc.

Singing CFR didn't help him. Nor did the $400 billion drug giveaway, the (cloaked) amnesty for illegal aliens, the $15 billion to Africa (ostensibly to fight AIDS), expanding Clinton's AmeriCorps program, the largest farm subsidy bill in history, or his support for the Assault Weapons Ban renewal bill.

Advice, GWB: Act like a conservative, and your re-election is assured.

And fire that socialist moron Rove.

17 posted on 01/20/2004 10:01:55 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
"And fire that socialist moron Rove."

And if Bush doesn't kill his own amnesty proposal, this could bring him down too!


18 posted on 01/20/2004 10:08:23 AM PST by international american (support our troops...........................revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: VU4G10
Why does the Bush admin listen to Karl Rove...who IS this guy...that he would hold such sway?
19 posted on 01/20/2004 10:15:18 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: VU4G10
Many Arizona conservatives are urging State Rep. Russell Pearce to run against Cong. Jeff Flake in District 6 this year.

Wow I hope this guy runs against Flake. I'll personally send him a donation even though I'm in NY. Patriots all across this country deserve our support.

20 posted on 01/20/2004 10:18:07 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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