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No proof of water found, Mars rover may have journey ahead
USA Today ^ | 18 Jan 04

Posted on 01/18/2004 5:51:25 PM PST by xzins

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:41:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

PASADENA, Calif. (AP)

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: life; mars; proof; rover; water
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To: Destro
Certainly, but I hope that man would have the sense to bring some plentiful Earth water with him while he's prospecting for Martian water.
61 posted on 01/18/2004 10:31:25 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Thank you so much for sharing your views! I see from your Freep profile that you are very interested in Astronomy.

I'm interested also but I confess my interests tend to the geometry. But for anyone interested in more information, here is a more recent article: Amid the Universe's Chaos, a Few Habitable Places and an example of how the information is used.

62 posted on 01/18/2004 10:33:50 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I think Kubrick took that shot.


"Mandrake, It's a good thing that we beat the Commies to Mars. Those Martians may well be the only remaining suppliers of good, clean water to replenish our precious bodily fluids."
63 posted on 01/18/2004 10:39:58 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Phil V.
Thanks for Mars ping. I think we still have a long way to go before we can really say what is going on there. It will take us some time.
64 posted on 01/19/2004 4:27:06 AM PST by brazucausa
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To: xzins
The last time we found "evidence" for life on Mars it came from a rock in Antarctica. Maybe we should save some time and start looking for Martian water in the Pacific Ocean.
65 posted on 01/19/2004 6:00:42 AM PST by Tricorn
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To: Tricorn
Maybe we can even find some Martians in Australia. We could just push the evolutionary envelope a little bit.
66 posted on 01/19/2004 6:18:14 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!)
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To: Phil V.
That is one great picture.
67 posted on 01/19/2004 6:51:05 AM PST by aBootes
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To: Elsie
well, private property rights have to be recognized by some judicial body - eh?
68 posted on 01/19/2004 7:34:58 AM PST by PokeyJoe (This tagline got outsourced to India. Pleased we are posting to this forum with our better skills.)
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To: Elsie
I was using gold as an example of reasons why others in previous times sought to tame a wild territory - and I expect that it will take finding something worth $$ (who knows what) that it will cause a Rush.

I only propose that the "gummit" provide funding for a rail road. Let the passengers decide what traffic rides.
69 posted on 01/19/2004 7:39:57 AM PST by PokeyJoe (This tagline got outsourced to India. Pleased we are posting to this forum with our better skills.)
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To: xzins
So, I'm not going to get some free giant shrimp?
70 posted on 01/19/2004 7:41:13 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Consort
"There's nothing there."

Except for the Ice Warriors.
71 posted on 01/19/2004 7:42:00 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Phil V.
By looking at that pic (#47)I realize there's actually haze on Mars. Makes it a lot easier to tell something's far away. The pics from the Apollo expeditions would show huge mountains in the background miles away, but most people would think it's just a hill about 100 feet away. The moon really plays tricks on distance perception.

Gene Cernan by the Lunar rover on Apollo 17.

72 posted on 01/19/2004 7:43:49 AM PST by Brett66
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To: Destro
Name a Star

and if sovreignty is disallowed, then why do we allow people to claim that they can name stars? Who owns that right? What judicial body will recognize such a name? And if naming a star is okay, why can't I plant a flag as a private citizen?

If I land on Mars as a private citizen, what is to stop me from claiming a Martian Basin, full of some precious metal, as the Territory of PokeyJoe, and vote myself - as the sole inhabitant - subject to the United States Constitution.

73 posted on 01/19/2004 9:30:00 AM PST by PokeyJoe (This tagline got outsourced to India. Pleased we are posting to this forum with our better skills.)
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To: PokeyJoe
Naming a star does not mean sovreignty or ownership. You know that don't you? If that was the case America would be owned by a European map maker.
74 posted on 01/19/2004 9:42:16 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Phil V.
Forgive me if this has been discussed, but after reviewing the Mars Direct proposals, isn't a logical (soon) step the rapid development of a demonstrator robotic Mars sample return mission to see if it can be done by making fuel on the surface? Seems like a good idea to do that now before spending years inching back towards the moon, etc.
75 posted on 01/19/2004 9:44:05 AM PST by Starrgaizr
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To: PokeyJoe
Just an illustration..

The courts in Poland have no jusidiction of the land titles in America........
76 posted on 01/19/2004 9:53:54 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: FormerLib
My wife swore I'd never guess what my brother was getting me for Christmas, and she was right. It was the Firefly series, including 3 unaired episodes, on DVD. Pretty cool present. Like you, I loved the series, but figured the humor and story line was too advanced for normal broadcast Fox viewers.

LTS

77 posted on 01/19/2004 9:59:07 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Buy American, the Nation you save may be your own)
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To: Destro
And, we refer to this land as "America" because - . . . (hint: Amerigo Vespucci)

I didn't say naming a star is ownership.

Naming a star, however, is an act that assumes that the name is recognized. This is a power of ownership (of a name), and if a name is recognized (ie: Microsoft, Dell) - then one may protect the name. It's called copyright law.

And it is a form of ownership.




78 posted on 01/19/2004 10:03:04 AM PST by PokeyJoe (This tagline got outsourced to India. Pleased we are posting to this forum with our better skills.)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
There are 3 unaired episodes? Heck, I'd buy the DVD just to see those!

It's always a bummer to be watching a show and you realize that it's too intelligent for TV viewers and that it's doomed.

I was really disappointed that Sci-Fi channel or WB didn't pick it up. Dang but those TV people are stupid!
79 posted on 01/19/2004 10:03:09 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: Destro
The USA signed a treaty outside of the UN before the UN treaty was proposed that disallows sovreignty over the stars and I agree with that treaty.

You can not have sovereignty over anything you can not defend. Sort of like our Southern borders.

80 posted on 01/19/2004 10:06:12 AM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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