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Saddam scrubbed from list of descendants of the Prophet Mohammed
AFP ^ | 12/17/03

Posted on 12/17/2003 1:48:07 PM PST by TexKat

BAGHDAD (AFP) - The name of Saddam Hussein has been removed from the list of descendants of Islam's Prophet Mohammed, the head of the union of Ashrafs, who guard the genealogical tree, told AFP.

Al-Sherif Najeh Mohammed Hassan al-Faham al-Aaraji admitted that the ousted dictator had been able to cheat despite the great value and honour attached to the line which is guarded in Baghdad.

"Saddam had forced the origin experts to falsify his genealogical tree so that it went back to the Prophet," he said.

"We will inform all the experts, and particularly those who yielded to Saddam and agreed to falsify his genealogical tree. But the real trusted experts are very few in number and all refused."

Aaraji showed AFP a photo of Saddam's tree including a large book of origins which go back to the imams Hassan and Hussein, sons of the imam Ali bin Abi Taleb by his wife Fatima, a daughter of the Prophet.

The cancellation of Saddam's noble lineage was decided three days after his capture by US forces on Saturday night near Tikrit, in northern Iraq.

The Ashrafs' union was set up after the fall of the old regime on April 9 by the men who under Saddam were part of councils of the sayeds, or lords, descending from Hassan and Hussein.

The union has the backing of religious dignitaries from all Muslim traditions, including the hawza Shiite seminary in Najaf as well as the interim interior ministry, Aaraji said.

On Tuesday the union held its first congress "to build the new Iraq", attended by Sunni and Shiite ashrafs, representatives of the interim Governing Council and other Iraqi communities.

"The first committee of ashrafs was set up in Kufa (Iraq) in 830 in the era of the Abbasids," said Ahmad Khoder al-Abbasi, head of the Arab committee of origins.

It moved to Baghdad, which became a centre for similar committees from the Arab and Muslim world. In the 1800s, the Ottomans suspended its activities and in 1917 the British scrapped the union totally, Abbasi said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1984; aaraji; agitprop; ashrafs; changingfacts; descendants; genealogicaltree; genealogy; georgeorwell; hawza; iraqaftermath; islam; islams; najaf; origins; prisonersaddam; propaganda; prophetmohammed; revisionisthistory; saddam; saddamhussein; saddamincustody; saddamtoppled; topplesaddam
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Not adescendant of Islam's Prophet Mohammed, not a martyr.

Just a bullying thug whose days are just about over.

1 posted on 12/17/2003 1:48:07 PM PST by TexKat
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To: freedom44; F14 Pilot; Pan_Yan
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2 posted on 12/17/2003 1:50:05 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: MEG33; Ragtime Cowgirl; windchime; Dog; Grampa Dave; blackie; radu
Ping-a-ling
3 posted on 12/17/2003 1:52:23 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
At first, I thought this surely must be from "The Onion".
4 posted on 12/17/2003 1:53:57 PM PST by VOA
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To: TexKat
He now might be the only living Arab not a descendant.
5 posted on 12/17/2003 1:54:14 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: TexKat
The cancellation of Saddam's noble lineage was decided three days after his capture...

...which is a pretty good indication of how much his return was still feared, and that it no longer is. Bad news for Baathists.

6 posted on 12/17/2003 1:54:18 PM PST by Grut
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To: TexKat
First Tarik Aziz changing his son's name and now this....

Sounds like Saddam is getting dissed in several directions.
7 posted on 12/17/2003 1:55:00 PM PST by najida (Where is Snake Pliskin when you need him?)
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To: TexKat
The pro-terrorist democrats are sad ~ very sad!
8 posted on 12/17/2003 1:59:30 PM PST by blackie
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To: TexKat
Wow. That's almost as humiliating of having your teeth checked on film.

FMCDH

9 posted on 12/17/2003 1:59:30 PM PST by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: TexKat
He's also being kicked out of the Mayflower Descendents and the Daughters of the American Revolution.
10 posted on 12/17/2003 2:02:34 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: TexKat
Gee, so it was all a lie? Who would have thought?
11 posted on 12/17/2003 2:03:08 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: TexKat

Nevermind.

12 posted on 12/17/2003 2:04:51 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: TexKat
I hope they get it on camera when he's told about it. :o)
13 posted on 12/17/2003 2:06:10 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Cicero; Constitution Day
Sons of Confederate Veterans declares Saddam a carpet bagging piece of Yankee trash.
14 posted on 12/17/2003 2:06:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Saddam looked like he could use a "Baath Party".)
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To: TexKat
Hey Saddam! How do ya like them apples?!
Neenerneenerneener!
15 posted on 12/17/2003 2:06:49 PM PST by mylife
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To: TexKat
I never thought there was much of a family resemblance.
16 posted on 12/17/2003 2:11:26 PM PST by ALASKA (That's my own personal, correct, opinion and I'm sticking with it!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; azhenfud
Sons of Confederate Veterans declares Saddam a carpet bagging piece of Yankee trash.

Hell, son, we BEEN knowin' that!
He must've took lessons from Cump Sherman or Beast Butler!

CD


17 posted on 12/17/2003 2:11:55 PM PST by Constitution Day (Iraqi blogger to President Bush: "The bones in the mass graves salute you, Avenger of the Bones.")
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How dare you insult us Yankee Trash !

Where's my matches ? Which way to Atlanta ? Jane Fonda still living there... I'll get a 2fer !
18 posted on 12/17/2003 2:13:18 PM PST by RS (nc)
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The cancellation of Saddam's noble lineage was decided three days after his capture by US forces on Saturday night near Tikrit, in northern Iraq.
19 posted on 12/17/2003 2:13:30 PM PST by dighton
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To: TexKat
"Saddam had forced the origin experts to falsify his genealogical tree so that it went back to the Prophet," he said.

Bummer. Hey does this mean he can eat pork now?

20 posted on 12/17/2003 2:13:46 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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