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Clue Found To Uncover Mystery Of Gunpowder Invention
Peoples Daily ^ | 12-11-2003

Posted on 12/11/2003 1:18:43 PM PST by blam

Clue found to uncover mystery of gunpowder invention

Chinese archeologists have found a large ancient saltpeter manufacturing base which they believe was used to manufacture gunpowder over 1,000 years ago.

A team of archaeologists discovered last month a network of caves at the Laojun Mountain in southwestern China's Sichuan Province.

Xu Xiangdong, leader of the expedition and former president of the Beijing Ancient Building Museum, said the caves were used to manufacture saltpeter, one of the major ingredients of gunpowder.

In two caves, the remains of workshops and storage pits were discovered, while in another cave the team found four work spaces,each covering hundreds of square meters, along with several saltpeter pits, and scattered fragments of chinaware.

Based on the finds, scientists estimated the ancient miners could have extracted one kg of saltpeter from 100 kg of earth and the kitchens could have fed 100 workers.

The finds proved that the Laojun Mountain was the largest base for saltpeter production, said the experts.

They speculated that the saltpeter, named "Chinese Snow" by foreigners, was probably transported from here to Europe and west Asia via the road twisting between Sichuan and Gansu provinces.

Experts agreed that the large number of halls in towns and cities around the area were used to trade saltpeter in ancient times.

Gunpowder is one of the four great inventions in ancient China along with paper, printing and the compass.

According to historic records, ancient Chinese found that the mixture of saltpeter, sulfur and carbon was explosive, which led to the invention of gunpowder sometime before the Tang Dynasty (618-907).

However, even today, the history of gunpowder manufacturing still rests on fragments in the historic record.

The manufacture of saltpeter has remained a mystery to Chinese scientists, said Xu Xiangdong.

"We are so excited to find important material proofs regarding the invention of gunpowder," said Luo Zhewen, head of the expert team under the State Bureau of Cultural Relics.

If the Laojun Mountain proves to be the birthplace of gunpowderand the largest exploitation base for saltpeter in history, it will be one of the most significant archaeological discoveries both in China and the world, Xu Xiangdong said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; bang; clue; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; gunpowderinvention; history; mystery

1 posted on 12/11/2003 1:18:43 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Reminds me of the old-timer who, for many years, consumed a half-cup of gunpowder with his breakfast each day, for energy.

He lived well into his 90's and left behind 7 children, 18 grandchildren, 27 great grendchildren, and a 40-foot diameter hole in the wall of the crematorium.

2 posted on 12/11/2003 1:22:28 PM PST by capt. norm (Lead me not into temptation, I can find the way myself...)
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To: blam
Isn't saltpeter good for something else, too??
3 posted on 12/11/2003 1:22:35 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
"Isn't saltpetre good for something else too?"

Yes, but since Hillary is around now there is no longer a need for it. One picture of her accomplishes the same thing.

4 posted on 12/11/2003 1:27:18 PM PST by capt. norm (Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it.)
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To: blam
Gunpowder is one of the four great inventions in ancient China along with paper, printing and the compass.

Interesting. The three great inventions for Europe have been considered the compass, firearms, and moveable type.
-Thomas More, who also wrote the first modern utopia.

"Sir Thomas More was one of the most scintillating and contradictory examples of the Renaissance man: lawyer, statesman, humanist, ascetic, author of Utopia , advocate for equal rights for women, enlightened teacher, Henry VIII's Lord Chancellor and, finally, the role which was highlighted in the Robert Bolt play A Man For All Seasons : Roman Catholic martyr." --Francis Gilbert (in The Guardian , 26 February 1998).

5 posted on 12/11/2003 1:34:12 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: blam
Everyone knows that the use of gunpowder was a gift from 23rd century time travellers.
6 posted on 12/11/2003 2:19:40 PM PST by Naspino (I am in no way associated with the views expressed in your posts.)
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To: RightWhale
Don't forget advocate of religious persecution.
7 posted on 12/11/2003 3:05:18 PM PST by Restorer
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To: Restorer
I believe he was not serious about anything, but just amusing himself, having fun with anybody that would listen.
8 posted on 12/11/2003 3:07:36 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: capt. norm
One picture of her accomplishes the same thing.

She is truly the antidote to Viagra...

9 posted on 12/11/2003 3:13:04 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Taglineus Interruptus)
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To: Sacajaweau
I don't think the military ever used saltpetre in food. Lots of rumors about it though. I *did* talk to a drill sergeant who, as a joke, put a big can labeled "Saltpeter" on a shelf just sort of halfway visible from the chow line, so the recruits could see it. He loved to see how rumours spread and stuff like that, a real practical joker type.
10 posted on 12/11/2003 3:34:22 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 2Jedismom; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
A topic from last year that never got added.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

11 posted on 09/21/2004 11:52:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=napalminthemorning)
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To: RightWhale
Interesting. The three great inventions for Europe have been considered the compass, firearms, and moveable type. -Thomas More, who also wrote the first modern utopia.

The Mongols invented cannon, and the first really workable cannons were used in the Turkish assault on Constantinople.

12 posted on 09/22/2004 2:47:47 AM PDT by judywillow
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To: judywillow

You're about a century off. The Brits used cannon at Crecy in 1346. The Turks did use cannon at Constantinople, but that was 1453.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 3:24:41 AM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior

Mongols had cannons around 1280 and prior to that had used gunpower bombs in catapaults as early as their invasion of Europe around 1240.


14 posted on 09/22/2004 5:34:45 AM PDT by judywillow
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To: blam
Gunpowder is one of the four great inventions in ancient China along with paper, printing and the compass.

Thomas More claimed the 3 greatest inventions were moveable type, the compass, and firearms.

15 posted on 09/22/2004 9:10:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: RightWhale

At least I am consistent over time, a perdurance effect.


16 posted on 09/22/2004 9:12:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Professional Engineer

ping


17 posted on 09/22/2004 5:37:11 PM PDT by msdrby (remind me to drink more water)
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To: blam

'The longest fuse begins with a single match." Charlie Chan


18 posted on 09/22/2004 7:37:38 PM PDT by Henchman (Vote Communist - elect Kerry!)
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To: blam
In Chile (particularly in the War of the Pacific against Bolivia and Peru in 1880's) saltpeter was mixed with pisco, a fiery grape brandy, and given to the troops just before battle... worked wonders.
19 posted on 09/22/2004 7:41:39 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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