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Hillary to Troops: Support for War Fading
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/29/03 | "With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff"

Posted on 11/29/2003 7:37:52 AM PST by thesummerwind

Edited on 11/29/2003 9:29:46 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Moderator note: I know it's going to be tough, but, please watch the calls for violence against this creature.

In a demoralizing message to U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq, visiting New York Sen. Hillary Clinton told them that Americans back home are growing increasingly skeptical of President Bush's decision to send them into battle.

Describing two meetings with G.I.s over turkey dinners in Baghdad, Sen. Clinton told reporters later that soldiers wanted to know "how the people at home feel about what we are doing."

Clinton said she told the troops, "Americans are wholeheartedly proud of what you are doing but there are many questions at home about the (Bush) administration's policies."

She also suggested that the U.S. could eventually loose the war in Iraq, contending, "We have to exert all of our efforts militarily, but the outcome is not assured."

Despite her sour pronouncements, the former first lady insisted that the soldiers were just as glad to see her as they were President Bush, whose surprise visit less than 24-hours earlier was greeted with standing ovations.

"It's a positive for the commander-in-chief to visit troops in the field," Clinton told reporters, adding, "the troops [also] seemed to appreciate seeing myself."

Speaking from a secure location just over the Kuwaiti border, Mrs. Clinton launched one verbal salvo after another at the White House, arguing that Bush officials had been "obsessed" with getting Saddam Hussein and saying the perception blinded them to the difficulties of deposing his regime.

"The Pentagon tried to make do with as few troops as possible, as light a footprint as they could get away with," Clinton said. "Now, we're playing catchup . . . Unfortunately, I don't think they fully appreciated the conditions we would encounter."

The top Democrat also reprised her charge that the White House is being less than candid when it comes to apprising the American people of the costs of the war.

"The obstacles and problems here are much greater than the administration usually admits to," she said, adding, "Everybody has to be honest."


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To: thesummerwind
Ohmigosh, what an evil way to slap at Bush for upstaging her. And this wicked witch of the north wants to be the next prez. God forbid that should ever happen!
321 posted on 11/29/2003 9:14:56 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: soozla
"Hillary Bites"
322 posted on 11/29/2003 9:14:58 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: soozla
Does anyone know if any soldiers booed her after that remark? I hope so .Sad,to think many Dumb americans and I do mean dumb americans believe her!
323 posted on 11/29/2003 9:15:18 AM PST by patriciamary
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To: Paul Atreides
During this entire trip, has the old pus-bag had one, JUST ONE, negative thingto say about Saddam?

Pus-bag. Good term. Think I'll use it in my next sentence. I wouldn't put it past the old pus-bag to have a secret meeting with Saddam while she's over there.

324 posted on 11/29/2003 9:15:21 AM PST by arasina (CHRISTMAS! [just try and take my tag line away, Bloomberg])
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To: Bringbackthedraft
I would love to know this information as well.
325 posted on 11/29/2003 9:16:41 AM PST by Toespi
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To: thesummerwind
"the troops [also] seemed to appreciate seeing myself."

They were just being polite, Hillary.

Her statements are really beyond words.
326 posted on 11/29/2003 9:16:48 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: thesummerwind
She is an evil bitch.
327 posted on 11/29/2003 9:18:33 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: The Mayor
Livid fits.

In the early 70’s Hillary, through Marian Edelman was hired as a research assistant by the Carnegie Council on Children, a blue ribbon panel of eleven ‘experts’ assembled by the Carnegie Corporation. It’s mandate, in part, was to respond to the concerns of sociologist Uri Bronfenbrenner, who had compared child rearing in the Soviet Union and thr United States, and found the United States wanting. The Council’s book-length report, All Our Children, is MUST reading for anyone who seeks to understand Hillary Rodham’s vision of the future of American families.

The Carnegie panelists started with the assumption that the triumph of the “universal entitlement state” was inevitable, and the best thing Americans could do for their children was to hasten its arrival. Just as families in an earlier ere turned their children’s education over to the public schools, the report argued, so in the future would government assume responsibilities for many other areas of children’s lives. This being so there was no reason to feel guilty about the rising rate of divorce. The decline of the nuclear family need not be worrisome, because “schools, doctors, and counselors and social workers provide their support whether the family is intact or not. One loses less by divorce today because marriage provides fewer kinds of sustenance and satisfaction.”

More significantly, All Our Children offers a blueprint for undermining the authority of parents whose values the authors consider outmoded. The chapter entitled, “Protection of Children Rights,” the section on which Hillary worked, observes that “it has become necessary for society to make some piecemeal accomodations to prevent parents from denying children certain privileges that society wants them to have.” The report goes on to advocate laws allowing children to consult doctors on matters involving drug use and pregnancy without parental notification, and preventing schools from “unilaterally” suspending or expelling disruptive students.

But this is just the beginning. The Carnegie panel further calls for developing a new class of “public advocates” who will speak for children’s interests on a whole range of issues, from the environment to race relations: “In a simpler world, parents were the only advocates for children. This is no longer true. In a complex society both children and parents need canny advocates.

The report goes on to suggest that “child ombudsmen” be placed in public institutions and some sort of insurance be introduced to enable individual children to hire “decently paid” private attorneys to represent their interests. The possibilities for child advocacy would seem to be endless. For example the report suggests, attornrys could bring class-action lawsuits to hold corporations liable for FUTURE damages their businesses might cause to TODAY’S children.

This is the voice of people who think they know all the answers and want to use children as a tool to impose their will on others. Is it really time for the government to take even more control and responsibility for your children?

In 1972 Hillary spoke at a Democrat platform meeting in Boston. Hillary Rodham testified in favor of a platform that would extend civil and political rights to children. Her position went even beyond that of the Children’s Defense Fund or the Carnegie Council. In an article published in November 1973 in the Harvard Educational Review, she advocated liberating our “child citizens” from the “empire of the father.” This was good feminist reasoning for which the rationale can be found in the writings of Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre. (“There is no good father, that’s the rule,’ Sartre said. “Don’t lay the blame on men but on the bond of paternity, which is rotten.”)

In Hillary’s own words, “The basic rationale for depriving people of their rights in a dependency relationship is that certain individuals are incapable or undeserving of the right to take care of themselves and consequently need social institutions to safeguard their position…….. Along with the family, past and present examples of such arrangements include marriage, slavery, and the Indian reservation system.”

This ‘It Takes a Village Idiot’, Hillary Rotten, belongs nowhere remotely near the Presidency!

328 posted on 11/29/2003 9:18:35 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Baynative
Well, here's a few...

Blue Star Mothers' message board

Sign the Caring Bridge guest book. Messages in this Guestbook are viewed by wounded soldiers, their loved ones and the general public.

Also, another good idea... to order Blue Star Mothers phone cards, suitable for sending to the troops overseas as well as using here at home.

For more ways to support the troops click here.

329 posted on 11/29/2003 9:18:47 AM PST by tgslTakoma (Hillary is common - as in vulgar, obscene, boorish,....)
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To: Calpernia
"Isn't this treasonist?"

Of course it's treasonous. It's what they do. The real fault, I'm afraid, lies with those who refuse to hold these people accountable for their actions (and words).

330 posted on 11/29/2003 9:18:52 AM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt)
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To: thesummerwind
Let's dip into the archives for some genuine Hillary bashing.

MIDI - I THINK I LOVE YOU

You are evil…that is easy to determine
You have fooled so many people who apparently cannot use their pea brain
It really is insane

Oh, Secret Service, step aside…I'd call you a disgrace
I would say it to your face
I really loathe you…I really loathe you

Jews should know…what are your real feelings
Only stupid ones had believed you when you claimed that you'd not said "FJB"
Oh, come on, Hillary

Please, Secret Service, step aside…I'd call you a disgrace
I would say it to your face
I really loathe you…I really loathe you

I really loathe you…and we know what we're afraid of
There is nothing that's more evil…there is nothing that's quite like you
I really loathe you…the heroes who had stood up booing
They had your face turning red…they said what had to be said

You really are a piece of work…from husband's duty Bill would shirk
He said that he would rather jerk

Ooooooh, I really loathe you…and we know what we're afraid of
There is nothing that's more evil…there is nothing that's quite like you
I really loathe you…the heroes who had stood up booing
They had your face turning red…they said what had to be said

The voters…didn't have B.S. detectors
And everything you did was scripted…the settings you controlled, yes, indeed
You're really a bad seed

Please, Secret Service, step aside…and I would call you a disgrace
I would say it to your face
Yes, I really loathe you…yes, I really loathe you
I really loathe you…I really loathe you
Yes, I really loathe you…I really loathe you
I really loathe you…I really loathe you
I really loathe you…yes, I really loathe you

331 posted on 11/29/2003 9:19:00 AM PST by doug from upland (Hillary didn't hire Pelicano.......my butt)
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To: Desdemona
You know, the enemy used to have to spend alot of effort to spread anti-American propaganda to demoralize our troops. Now they just have to wait for that thing to show up.
332 posted on 11/29/2003 9:19:33 AM PST by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: All
Is there any way to send a collective appreciation to the troops in Iraq & Afghanistan? Like a full page ad in newspapers, or a petition-type of document?

She just ruined the good done by the President & I wanna cry.
333 posted on 11/29/2003 9:20:40 AM PST by madison10
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To: Exit148
She might just as well as stabbed them in the back.

Supposedly, she was called Lady Macbeth of Little Rock during BC's governor years. She must have earned that name.
334 posted on 11/29/2003 9:20:44 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: doug from upland
and what really makes me sick about this trip is that WE, the taxpayers had to pay for it........OUR MONEY AT WORK
335 posted on 11/29/2003 9:20:51 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Bringbackthedraft
I will ask Connie Wells to join our forum for a report. I had started a thread here at FR, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1027685/posts
for her to forward to the 10th Mountain with our prayers, remembrances and thoughts.
336 posted on 11/29/2003 9:21:11 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: BobbyK
Read the plea now in place at the beginning of the thread.It will all become clear.I know at least several posters who did not curse,including me.
337 posted on 11/29/2003 9:21:35 AM PST by MEG33
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To: All
let her live a long life. the world she dwells in will slowly disintegrate, and she will be faced with the reality that every thinking person on the planet despises her; she may see how despicable she's been and will see everyone who supported or sucked up to her as equally dispicable.

She may yet see that she sold out anything of lasting value, trampled on good, and manufactured harmful illusions for her own gain; interfering with the process of newly liberating millions of people, and mounting offense on the liberty of hundreds of millions more.

Her misery will be beyond words.

338 posted on 11/29/2003 9:21:41 AM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: admiralsn
"Hag-dad Hillary"

Perfect.... absolutely perfect.
339 posted on 11/29/2003 9:21:45 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: ontos-on
Yes, very expositional! Is that a word? ;)

Oh well.

340 posted on 11/29/2003 9:22:05 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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