Some Relevant Facts About the JFK Assassination

Newsmax ^ | 11/19/2003 | Phil Brennan

[Swordmaker]

There's an explosive new book that lays out a very detailed – and persuasive – case for the probability that the late President Lyndon Baines Johnson was responsible for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

I say persuasive because the author, Barr McClellan, was one of LBJ's top lawyers, and he provides a lot of information hitherto unknown to the general public – much more of which he says is buried in secret documents long withheld from the American people.

"The American public has waited forty years to hear the truth about the JFK assassination," McClellan says. "For government agencies to withhold critical evidence and not cooperate with the [1998 investigation conducted by the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB)] is a form of obstruction of justice. Under the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act, the public should be granted access to these documents."

According to McClellan and Doug Horne, a former ARRB investigator, hundreds of relevant documents were withheld from the 1998 investigation into the JFK assassination. They believe that these materials are now in the possession of the National Archives, relocated from sealed files previously controlled by the CIA and FBI.

McClellan also asked for a formal review of the evidence in his book, "Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K.," which establishes a direct connection between LBJ and an individual involved with the assassination and cover-up.

"At this time we need to see what else is missing and what else would be helpful to presenting the entire truth," McClellan continued. "The Senate Judiciary Committee and the Department of Justice could make the request of the National Archives and should do so."

Now, in normal circumstance I would tend to view this latest explanation of who was behind the killing of JFK as exactly that – just another theory among dozens. But the circumstances are not normal. Poll after poll establishes that an overwhelming majority of Americans believe that the official verdict of the Warren Commission is simply not borne out by what little is known publicly about the case.

McClellan's new book adds to those facts and names a second suspect he says was a longtime assassin for Lyndon Johnson, whom he portrays as ... well, as being homicidal whenever he or his many concealed interests were threatened.

Add to that the incredible inconsistencies in the FBI and Secret Service investigations, which reek with the stench of cover-up, and one can't escape the conclusion that if LBJ did nothing else in dealing with the aftermath of the assassination, he sure as hell clamped a lid on any evidence that contradicted the official finding that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman acting solely on his own initiative.

I report all of this as a prelude to revealing what I know about the matter but have never before written about – in the beginning, because I had a wife and seven children to protect, and since, because I had no reason to revisit the matter.

[1Old Pro]

Yeah and Spector was granted Senator for life because of his ability to give the one bullet theory with a straight face.

You must be referring to the MAGIC bullet which can radically change speed and direction in flight. Yep, the Warren Commission covered up alot, what exactly they covered up and why is not known.

[Shooter 2.5]

No such thing as magic. The 2000 Feet Per Seond bullet didn't hit any bones until Connelly's rib bone.

[LisaMalia]

Someone pointed on an earlier thread a month or so ago, that in the photo taken right after LBJ was sworn in, not the famous one we all know where he's being sworn in, but right after that there's a photo of him turning to look at Rep. Albert Thomas (D. Tex.) who winks at LBJ. It's obvious too, Thomas has a smile on his face, in addition to the wink

I have seen that picture as well. In this case, a picture IS worth a thousand words.

I have read many books and watched hours of tv specials on the subject. I am sure of three things:

The Warren Report was the biggest scam every perpertrated on the American public.

Oswald was a bit player in a much, much bigger plot. (Remember him saying, I'm paraphrasing....Would SOMEONE come forward to offer me assistance...).

The actual hit was pulled off by the Mafia, but our government was involved as well.

The sad part is that we'll never know the truth in our lifetimes.

[GreatOne]

I greatly appreciate the time you took to track that information down. I know that Lovelady has said he was there, and have seen the photos of him.

However (and I hate to say this to you), it does not convince me, in part because of what I stated - that the guy in the photo, be it Lovelady or Oswald, is wearing exactly what Oswald is wearing in his arrest photo. While it has been a while since I've the photos side-by-side myself, I'd like to think that my memory is not that bad. I'll dig around today during breaks and see what I can find to post here.

[Shooter 2.5]

Then why aren't you reading the autopsy report?

What happened to the bullet that made that throat wound?
Or the back wound?

[texasbluebell]

And how to explain the fact that xrays later claimed to be of JFK's head wound were not consistent with what was seen by those in the ER that day in Dallas.

Those who treated him were firm in their conviction that his headwound, with close to a quarter of the back of his skull missing, did not match what were later claimed to be shown on those films, which was a small bullet wound to the back of the head.

Doesn't add up. I believe the docs who were there, not those who had/have something to gain politically.

[ninenot]

While with a host in Dallas, on our way to dinner, I asked to drive through Dealey Plaza out of curiosity. We took the route that JFK traversed, heading toward the Book Repository, at legal speed.

I stared at the Repository as we traveled, gauging 'taking a shot.'

Now, I am no rifle expert, but I've fired a couple of them more than a few times. Boddington, the big-game hunter/columnist for G&A wrote an article describing the difficulty of shooting either down or up--you have to re-sight OR have a HELL of a lotta experience to adjust for the change in trajectory...

To flatly state that Oswald made his shot indicates that you have concluded that Oswald was either exceptionally lucky or exceptionally good--like in the top 1/2 of 1% of rifle shooters in the world.

[texasbluebell]

The sad part is that we'll never know the truth in our lifetimes.

It's beginning to look that way, but I think the truth is supposed to be revealed in what, 2025 or 2038? I've seen various dates. I'm going to be very old then, but I hope to live to see it.

Obviously our govt doesn't think we deserve to see it before then.

[mtbopfuyn]

Oh, geez, here we go again. Anyone can write a book, that doesn't mean it has any truth to it. Nellie Connally was in the car so I'd come closer to believing her than some bozo out to make a buck on speculation.

The Connally and Johnson families were life long friends and bought weekend homes practically next door to each other and spend weekends and holidays with each other even after the assassination. You tell me, if you suspected someone of killing the prez and nearly killing you would you have your family eating at their table? I think not. All these rumors about LBJ are hogwash.

[ninenot]

and the three pieces of brass hit the floor.

Interesting. Commercial-grade floors are either concrete or very thick wood over steel supports.

Did they also hear the mice taking a crap?

[mtbopfuyn]

The problem with Oswalds fingerprints and palm print is that the 6th floor was Oswalds assigned work area....his prints would have been on many of the boxes there. All the presence of his prints prove is what is already known....that he worked on the sixth floor.

Exactly. Of course his finger prints are going to be there. It also amazes me how people jump all over there being boxes of books by the window. Hello, it was a book depository so there was little else but boxes upon boxes of thousands of stored books in the whole building.

[DoctorMichael]

Followed the link and read the article..............VERY interesting and plausible.

[Lee'sGhost]

"Nope. I go for the facts. "

Well, at least the "facts" you selectively care to address.

As for Oswald being a "sharpshooter."

". . . .Even after weeks of practice and intensive training, Oswald barely managed to qualify at the level of "Sharpshooter," the middle of three rifle qualification levels in the Marines. He obtained a score of 212, two points above the minimum for the "Sharpshooter" level. In other words, even after extensive training and practice, and even though he was firing at stationary targets with a semi-automatic rifle and had plenty of time to shoot (even during the so-called "rapid-fire" phase), Oswald narrowly missed scoring at the lowest possible qualification level.

The next time Oswald fired for record in the Marines, he barely managed to qualify at all, obtaining a score of 191, which was one point above the minimum needed for the lowest qualification level, "Marksman." To put it another way, he came within two points of failing to qualify."

Having been in the military and qualified, I can tell you that qualifying as a sharpshooter is nothing like being considered a true expert marksman like those used to test the one gunman theory.

And as far as common sense, why would you train to fire quickly with a slow weapon -- especially when it is accuracy which really matters in this case? Makes no sense. Every tries to prove the rapid fire theory without asking why? So you are a nut who has decided to take out the president. You know the odds are pretty good you're going to get caught, so you better make your shot(s) count. So, do you fire as fast as you can, increasing the chance that you'll miss, still get caught, or do you take your time and make each shot count? Even with your 8.2 seconds two shots is pushing it, though more plausible than three.

But hey, what do I know other than what the facts and common sense tells me?

[ninenot]

It was a HELL of a lot more than 75 feet. Drive through the Plaza yourself...

[RightWhale]

Drive through the Plaza yourself...

But keep the top on the Vette in case there is a nutcase looking out a window with a cheap rifle.

[Lee'sGhost]

"Why do so many say that the shooter had to be such a marksman?"

I'm not trying to say that "marksmanship" is the issue as much as I am trying to say that being an expert is.

AS one report says, . . .

"The Warren Commission concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, shot and killed President Kennedy, firing three shots and hitting Kennedy with two of them. The Commission leaned toward the view that Oswald fired the three shots in less than six seconds. Most lone-gunman theorists now claim that Oswald fired three shots in 8.4 seconds. They assert that he fired and missed at right around frame 160 of the Zapruder film. However, in order to accept this claim, we would have to believe that for his first and closest shot Oswald completely missed, not only Kennedy, but the entire limousine. This would have been a truly staggering miss from Oswald's alleged position in the sixth-floor southeast corner window of the Texas School Book Depository Building. He would have been firing down at the car from a distance of less than 140 feet. However, even assuming that Oswald fired and missed at around frame 160, this would mean that he fired his next two shots in less than 5.6 seconds and hit Kennedy with both of them, which still would have been a skillful performance, especially since the FBI and the Army established that the alleged murder weapon, a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, could not be fired faster than 2.3 seconds per shot, even in the hands of experienced, expert riflemen. Lone-gunman theorists claim that subsequent Carcano rifle tests proved that the weapon could be fired in around 1.6 seconds per shot, but these tests did not use the same Carcano that Oswald allegedly fired. The FBI and the Army found that THAT Carcano could not be fired faster than 2.3 seconds per shot, even when used by expert shooters. For years the "traditional" lone-gunman scenario was that Oswald scored two hits out of three shots in less than six seconds. This is really the only plausible shooting scenario if one assumes that there was only one assassin and that he fired from the sixth-floor window."

[mtbopfuyn]

"That's a slam dunk!"

Sure, and Teddy, Bobby, and the whole Kennedy clan allowed LBJ to sit at JFK's desk and never a peep out of them for 40 years?

[Old Professer]

Released Oct. 2003 and one month later the media including the History Channel is full of specials; muddy waters?

[Protagoras]

And don't forget the amazing thing that happened to the evidence.

"Hey! Where is that brain? I know I had it here just a minute ago. I must have misplaced it."

LOL

[Rummyfan]

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