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Boeing's New Baby
The Wall Street Journal ^ | November 18, 2003 | J. LYNN LUNSFORD

Posted on 11/18/2003 6:05:22 AM PST by jjm2111

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:50:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Have a look0 at Boeing's proposed 7E7 models, and how their configurations compare to its aging 676.

See our revamped Personal Journal section2 with new features and online-only columns, tools and stories, along with the entire contents of the print edition.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 7e7; airbus; aviation; boeing; dreamliner
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Some of these ideas seem quite sensible. A comfortable jet that makes the airline money will be a real seller.
1 posted on 11/18/2003 6:05:22 AM PST by jjm2111
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Wichita has really been trying to woo Boeing into having the Beoing Wichita plant build this plane. We could use the additional jobs to replace the thousands lost post 9/11. We've been one of the hardest hit cities primarily due to the fact we (stupidly) rely almost entirely on aircraft manufacturing.
2 posted on 11/18/2003 6:18:48 AM PST by Crazieman
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Although its main selling point has been a 20% increase in efficiency

Yowza -- that's an incredible savings: on the order of $20k per flight.

3 posted on 11/18/2003 6:22:44 AM PST by r9etb
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The short version can go from 200 seats in different passenger classes to 300 seats in one class?

Mooooooooo!

4 posted on 11/18/2003 6:29:42 AM PST by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm, a glowworm's never glum, cuz how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum.)
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To: N. Theknow
How many bombs can it drop?
5 posted on 11/18/2003 6:35:39 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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Airbus says it isn't concerned.

It has always struck me as ironic that Boeing among other American plane makers made it possible for a free French and British to make the Airbus to compete with Boeing.

6 posted on 11/18/2003 6:36:20 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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The inside looks similar to the Starship Enterprise corridors...
7 posted on 11/18/2003 6:39:01 AM PST by Portnoy (Fahrenheit 451...Today's Temperature is hotter than you think...)
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To: Crazieman
Probably no one , outside of residents of Wichita, knows the long and proud history of aircraft production in your city....the vast majority of the B-29 bomberw were built there...
8 posted on 11/18/2003 6:49:15 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Crazieman
Wichita has really been trying to woo Boeing into having the Beoing Wichita plant build this plane.

We've been one of the hardest hit cities primarily due to the fact we . . . rely almost entirely on aircraft manufacturing.

Hope Wichita does get the nod on production of this plane. However, it won't impact me. Thanks to all the security wackyness at airports I fly via general aviation - charter when I have to fly. If more people would do this Cessna (Wichita plant?) would get busier.

9 posted on 11/18/2003 6:51:40 AM PST by toddst
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To: jjm2111
"Big ol Jed left the light on...."
10 posted on 11/18/2003 6:56:34 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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The airlines (except Southwest) won't make money until I can take my swiss army knife aboard without being shot by the brainless twits they call 'airport security'.

Also, I didn't know Boeing counting in Hex when they were numbering their aircraft designs.

11 posted on 11/18/2003 7:05:46 AM PST by zeugma (If you eat a live toad first thing in the morning, nothing worse will happen all day.)
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Nothing will ever surpass the golden age of air travel - that spanned from the 70's into the early 90's. The Boeing 747 reigned supreme!


12 posted on 11/18/2003 7:06:00 AM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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I don't know if being crammed into the back of a 747 for a transpacific flight can really be called "golden age", but I have to admit that 747s look pretty for the behemoths that they are.
13 posted on 11/18/2003 7:12:31 AM PST by jjm2111
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"The airlines (except Southwest) won't make money until I can take my swiss army knife aboard without being shot by the brainless twits they call 'airport security'."

I was flying on military orders just last weekend and I was forced to go through the whole strip search thing. Belt off, shoes off, etc. I try hard to be polite but it's really tough. Not only do I have a higher clearance than any of those clowns with the wands, I'd give my life if need be if the plane were attacked.

On a funny one, one elderly gentlman (TSA employee) had a hard time standing up straight but was wearing the nomex tactical gloves that the specwar or SWAT guys wear. I almost busted a gut laughing.

14 posted on 11/18/2003 7:15:59 AM PST by jjm2111
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AMAZING! but all they had to do waws look back 30 years for good design.


15 posted on 11/18/2003 7:21:09 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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It appears more and more that it's a GO for Boeing to start the 7E7 project.

There are these reasons for this:

1. There is great interest from Japan Airlines, All-Nippon Airways, Singapore Airlines, Lufthansa, the airlines of the German TUI Group tour company, Continental Airlines and Delta Airlines in launching this plane.

2. The plane will most likely be built at Boeing's Everett, WA factory on the former 767 production line, which means Boeing can recall much of their laid-off workforce in the Seattle-Tacoma area.

3. The plane has a HUGE potential for sales to the US Air Force. The USAF desperately needs to phase out their aging KC-135 tanker fleet, and other 7E7 variants for the USAF may include VIP transports, electronics intelligence platforms to replace the aging RC-135's, and a combined AWACS/JSTARS battle management platform.

16 posted on 11/18/2003 7:23:12 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: newgeezer
Me new bread and butter, maybe.
17 posted on 11/18/2003 7:24:09 AM PST by biblewonk (I must answer all bible questions.)
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To: jjm2111
I flew the 777 three times. It is the best plane other than the L-1011 that I have been in.
18 posted on 11/18/2003 7:25:31 AM PST by bmwcyle (Hillary's election to President will start a civil war)
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More comfortable seating is absolutely the #1 priority. Sitting for 3,4,5 or more hours is uncomfortable enough. Doing it with little wiggle room is awful.
19 posted on 11/18/2003 7:27:37 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Looks good! Good enough for me to want to go through a cavity search to get on? No.
20 posted on 11/18/2003 7:30:48 AM PST by null and void (Lord Hildamort!™ - She Who Must Not Be Named)
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