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SoCal Fires Live Thread 10/28
10/28/03 | Myself

Posted on 10/27/2003 9:17:40 PM PST by spectr17

SoCal Fires Live Thread 10/28


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: firestorm; forestfire; michaeldobbs; prayerlist; socalfires; wildfire
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To: hole_n_one
I am in Chatsworth. Work on Calabasas. Left my truck windows cracked open a little today and it looks and smells like ciggies.
2,061 posted on 10/28/2003 6:09:00 PM PST by BobS
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To: Major_Risktaker
A hundred Liberals are ready to tell you how many homeless/illegal/undocumented persons can be fed for the cost of a single airplane. Thats why.
2,062 posted on 10/28/2003 6:09:08 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: spectr17


On FoxNews--showing it getting very close to structures.
2,063 posted on 10/28/2003 6:09:15 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: nicmarlo
reads like two separate locations...this area of the 10 has heavy tree/brush cover beside it. If two locations then they are very close together.
2,064 posted on 10/28/2003 6:09:25 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Wm. Wallace did not cry 'diversity' while being disemboweled.)
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To: OldFriend
On the contrary, the powers that be in Lake Arrowhead have been VERY pro active in forcing homeowners to cut down their dead trees (due to the beetle) or they will come in and cut the trees down at the homeowners expense

And that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is this:

Tom Sullivan talk show in Sacramento this PM: Caller states that one of his best friends took out a large wild blackberry bush because it was too overgrown and too close to house for safety in case of fires. CAL FISH & GAME fined him $7000- that is seven thousand dollars- not a mistype- for "removing bird habitat without their permission and permit.
What's even more stupid about this is that wild blackberries here in Nevada County are considered "Mother Nature's barbed wire", and birds don't nest there. What does lurk there is wild skunks and rattlers. Nevada County has the nighest number of rabid skunks trapped year after year, so no loss there, and rattlers are self-explanatory.
The CDF comes along and tells us to keep a defensable space- 30 feet- away from the house, and the Fish and Game fines us $7000 for removing wild blackberries. You figure out how to stop this madness. We have very little say about our own property.
State of Calif is now adding a minimum of $70 per parcel this year and $35 next year to over 2 million rural property owners in their next tax bills to cover the $50 million shortfall in the CDF budget because the state legislature cut their money. If you do the math, they will collect $140 million to replace $50 million the first year, and $70 million the second year. On top of this "FEE", the counties can charge a "surcharge for a handling fee", amount to be determined.
Davis has left this state truly in a scorched earth position. I predicted he would, but I was thinking more in a financial manner. I never even thought about this kind of fires. But my words were more prophetic than I care to contemplate.
2,065 posted on 10/28/2003 6:09:49 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Conservative4Ever
Fire report removed from CHP site, Conservative!!!!

Indio Dispatch Center
Number of Incidents: 1 Last Updated at: 10/28/2003 6:09:06 PM
No. Time Type Location Area
0163 6:23AM Lane Closure INDIO CC Indio
2,066 posted on 10/28/2003 6:10:20 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: spectr17
hey...welcome back...
2,067 posted on 10/28/2003 6:11:02 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Wm. Wallace did not cry 'diversity' while being disemboweled.)
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To: spectr17
Now there are arson set fires started up in New Mexico.
2,068 posted on 10/28/2003 6:11:34 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Conservative4Ever
This is a little bit of humor for the night. A tree called Old Glory where some environmentalists tried to keep the tree from being taken down in Pico Canyon is now near to the path of the fire. Some guy lived in the tree for awhile trying to prevent a road from going through. Some people evacuating from that area told the reporter that it would be ironic if the tree they wanted to save is lost in the fire.
2,069 posted on 10/28/2003 6:11:43 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
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To: dogbyte12
Anybody starting a fire needs a 5.56 round from the National Guard.

If this means a firing squad, I AGREE! Maybe we could send them to FloriDUH to starve/dehydrate them to death!

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2,070 posted on 10/28/2003 6:11:43 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: abner; mhking
Do you spose that he will have a job after losing the van???

Was it a satellite truck or "just" a microwave van? Either way, it likely contained well over $100K worth of equipment. Whether he gets in trouble will depend on whether his superiors wanted him to be out there that close to the fire, or if he browbeat them into letting him stay in that location far longer than they wanted him to.

(Anyone got video?)

2,071 posted on 10/28/2003 6:11:56 PM PST by Timesink
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To: ridesthemiles
#2065 Incredible!!!
2,072 posted on 10/28/2003 6:12:05 PM PST by BossLady
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To: spectr17
More bad news:

Forest fire burning near Ruidoso, NM
2,073 posted on 10/28/2003 6:12:07 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Conservative4Ever
I'm getting paged back to work so this may be a short visit.

Calling in now
2,074 posted on 10/28/2003 6:12:09 PM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: FITZ
What's going on in New Mexico???

We have personnel coming in who are desperately needed from New Mexico.

Death penalty for arsonists on the spot.

2,076 posted on 10/28/2003 6:12:32 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: doug from upland
Doug from Upland - glad to see you made it home (and still have a home) OK. I never realized how many Freepers are in the LA and SD areas until now. I've been reading the threads for 4 days now, and I'm becoming rather familiar with the area.

Stay safe!

2,077 posted on 10/28/2003 6:13:04 PM PST by meyer
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To: spectr17

2,078 posted on 10/28/2003 6:13:17 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Timesink
Was it a satellite truck or "just" a microwave van?

I heard it was a microwave van. pics look like it too, KNBC

2,080 posted on 10/28/2003 6:14:07 PM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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