Ted Cruz Just Unloaded on Donald Trump

Red State ^ | January 1, 2016 | Leon H. Wolf

[Cincinatus' Wife]

It appears that the bromance between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump is probably over for good. I mean, it was one thing to see Donald Trump openly attacking Cruz for days on end. We've seen that before, and never before had Cruz taken the bait. It appears that this method of dealing with Trump has finally reached its end in the Cruz campaign.

(CRUZ): >>>I will say that it's more than a little strange to see Donald relying on as authoritative a liberal, left-wing, judicial activist Harvard Law professor who is a huge Hillary supporter (Ed. note - Laurence Tribe). It starts to make you think, "Gosh, why are some of Hillary's strongest supporters backing Trump?" You know, the last couple of elections the Democrats have gotten the nominee they wanted to run against in the general election. It seems the Hillary folks are very eager to support Donald Trump and the attacks that are being tossed my direction.<<<

Welcome to the party, Ted Cruz. Better late than never to call Trump what he is.

I, for one, am glad that the prominent conservative personalities who have been pretending Trump is a conservative and talking about him positively to bolster their ratings, will finally have to choose between their wallet and their ideology (and credibility) in this battle between Trump and Cruz. It's been a long time coming.

[Amntn]

No Norm, they are not ALL evil. I would guess that less than half of them are the evil type.

Many of them are the same type of democrat that voted for Reagan.

Coal mine workers, police, union workers, and the ones who vote democrat because their families have always been democrat.

They are not politically savvy or knowledgeable but they are not evil.

[FreeReign]

Coal mine workers, police, union workers, and the ones who vote democrat because their families have always been democrat.

Democrats who voted for Obama in 2012 will vote for Hillary in 2016.

[NormsRevenge]

YUp.. My Vegas Slush Fund depends on the outcome of this election.

A lot of folks have more marbles in the game then they realize.

Popcorn and granola futures jump as election nears.

[Norm Lenhart]

They are evil.

[Amntn]

Democrats who voted for Obama in 2012 will vote for Hillary in 2016.
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Don’t count on it.

[Red Steel]

I'm going to man up? It's you who acts like a little girl thinking I'm lying here, and you can't answer a simple question.

You on this thread:

I mean when you are done crapping on that cop car at Occupy Wall Street.

Look how easy it was to ball you over.

Balled you over, proved by your immature comeback.

Too bad for you many of Trump's Freakshow attracted voters aren't registered.

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Oh yeah, I'm the immature one. /sarc

Scroll down the page to see the vid of the Cruzes making political ads.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/11/iowa-governor-terry-branstad-questions-ted-cruz-citizenship-and-other-issues-candidate-ted-cruz-can-never-reconcile/#more-110854

[Georgia Girl 2]

Thanx for sticking with Cruz. Its pushing Trump to the finish line. LOL!

[VanDeKoik]

It was honestly the first time I became disillusioned with FR.

No matter how much we disagree, THAT was just disgusting to see.

I also started out on the Cruz side, and debated with the same people, when they were ALL backing Scott Walker, even after Cruz announced (like the OP of this topic).

I switched over to Trump latter in the fall because I saw that he was igniting a real uprising in the electorate that was focused on cleaning out the rot and rats in DC.

Now we get accused of being “liberals” on a daily basis by these zealots that demand we support Cruz without question.

It’s far beyond pathetic. It shows that Cruz cannot seal the deal on his own. Trump convinced us to back him through his performance and how he was willing to go out and push issues we NEVER heard from even the conservatives that ran in previous elections. And he did so with negative consequences for his own bottom line. But we are supposed to ignore that because we must conform to Cruz. Because Cruz is magic. Cruz is our savior, and only “true conservatives” back Cruz.

I hear more about the “legend of Ted Cruz” that the reality is really pretty disappointing. I think they know that as well. That is why they have to pump-up the rage because reality isnt cutting it.

The more deranged they become, the less confident I am in the guy even if he did win the nomination.

[FreeReign]

This was not a definition, but an extension under Congress's power to make rules of naturalization (which, by definition, has nothing to do with Natural Born citizenship!) to treat children of overseas Americans "as if" they were natural born, IOW, a legal fiction, without actually being clear that they are well and truly natural born and eligible to be President.

To treat somebody as a NBC who isn't a NBC is unconstitutional. You think the Founders were actually doing that?

Congress can of course define rules of Naturalization. But they can't define new rules for being a NBC nor can the make laws to treat somebody like a NBC.

The most likely scenario for the language in the 1790 Act was that they were reiterating the common definition of what it means to be NBC.

[don-o]

... about a Cruz supporter demanding that JR stop Trump supporters from posting on FR. I'll confirm; I read such a post yesterday. It was pretty amazing, considering the verbal abuse we've endured from more than a handful of Cruz supporters.

There's all manner of silly posts made here all day, every day.

No need to get the vapors.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

You think the Founders were actually doing that?

Well no, which should be self-evident in the post you just quoted.

[trisham]

I hear you and well said. I’m stunned at the level of vitriol from many of the Cruz supporters.

I don’t know why they think that insulting those of us who have withdrawn or have begun to withdraw our support for Cruz would somehow bring us back to the fold.
Whatever they’re thinking, it’s not a viable strategy. Not for me, certainly.

[MamaB]

There is just something very odd about that video. Can not put my finger on it but it would make me think twice about donating any money.

[Norm Lenhart]

For every fanatical Cruizer, there is a fanatical Trumper just as out there. So dont for a nanosecond thing Ted has a lock un nutjobs. Because that mirror is pointing right back to your camp.

[FreeReign]

as if" they were natural born, IOW, a legal fiction, without actually being clear that they are well and truly natural born and eligible to be President.

Okay. You know it to be a legal fiction.

Why would they do that?

I have no idea what the last part of your sentence says.

[sunrise_sunset]

-Or failing that any statue that redefines or changes the 1790 law.-

The 1795 Naturalization Act over turned the 1790 law, and took out “natural born” status for children born out of country.

Sec.3 “the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States”

Signed by Washington into law.

http://www.indiana.edu/~kdhist/H105-documents-web/week08/naturalization1790.html

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Why would they do that?

Technically your line of questioning is entirely irrelevant, since natural born status, in their view, can't pass maternally. The 1790 act was repealed by one written by Madison, and the language of "natural born" was targeted and explicitly removed thereafter.

[sunrise_sunset]

Again, the 1790 act was overturned by the 1795 Act, which eliminated “natural born” status for children born overseas.

[FreeReign]

There is just something very odd about that video. Can not put my finger on it but it would make me think twice about donating any money.

You think that video appears the way it was released?

[cymbeline]

“Most Cruz supporters can read and decide that issue for themselves.”

Yes they can but their personal decision is irrelevant to a lawsuit contesting Cruz’s eligility. Hasn’t a Florida guy said he’ll take it to court if Cruz is nominated?

I think Cruz should just forge ahead and leave the citizenship in the hands of voters. If he were nominated would the court nullify the votes of millions of citizens? It’s a fuzzy issue. I think not.