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Republicans' Donald Trump problem just got worse
Vox ^ | July 27, 2015 | Jonathan Allen

Posted on 07/26/2015 9:01:20 AM PDT by entropy12

Donald Trump was supposed to flame out fast. Instead, he's burning ever hotter in the first contests of the 2016 Republican presidential primary.

The real estate mogul and reality TV star has a seven-point lead over his nearest competitor in New Hampshire, and he's breathing down the neck of longtime Iowa caucuses leader Scott Walker, according to two NBC-Marist University polls released Sunday morning.

It's still very early in the 2016 campaign, and the first Republican debate on Aug. 6 in Cleveland could shake up the race, but Trump's surprising success suggests he will continue to be a significant force in the GOP primary.

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


TOPICS: New York; Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: 2016election; dailykos; demagogicparty; election2016; gop; jonathanallen; markosmoulitsas; memebuilding; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; republicans; trump; vox
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To: entropy12

your prostate then your memory. That’s why you can’t remember is you went to the bathroom and now your pants are wet.


41 posted on 07/26/2015 9:57:05 AM PDT by Kozy
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Because leftist pundits (85%-90% of all pundits) ASSUME all republicans are extreme right wing, homophobes, selfish, and not inclusive of people.


42 posted on 07/26/2015 9:58:18 AM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....)
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To: SamAdams76
So far, the anti-Trump folks have been proven wrong about everything.

Not entirely true. Some things will take years to play out, right or wrong.

43 posted on 07/26/2015 10:00:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Kozy

That reminds me of a Bob Hope joke..

He said when he got old, he started to forget pulling his zipper up (after pee-pee).

Then he got more old, and started to forget to pull the zipper down (before pee-pee)!


44 posted on 07/26/2015 10:01:00 AM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....)
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To: entropy12

Precisely.

Trump showed polish in what you saw, but in the Trump culture it is all about winning and performance. Look at the apprentice.

The winners in the Trump management are probably showered with recognition, money, perks, and a lot of fun things. The ones who do not perform also realize they are out.

As his special counsel Michael Cohen said in a recent interview, Trump got his experience as a New York developer. New York is one of the toughest most brutal places to develop real estate and he mastered it and came out on top. I would suggest that the New York real estate market is more brutal than running a campaign. Trump does not seem phased by anything because he has faced very tough circumstances in his business hundreds of times and overcame them.

Trump has got that killer instinct and at the same time has instilled it in his staff and it is obvious his staff loves to win. The other candidates simply do not have this.

Trump is building an organization for the campaign. He knows how and the candidates still don’t get that this man is very very talented. He is moving at lightning speed taking over the voter market with a brand new product to sell called: “Making America great again!!!” He is also doing it at a fraction of the cost of his competitors and they also do not get this.

Trump is using the classic approach business of delivering his product bigger, faster and cheaper than all the others. This is a concept that none of his fellow candidates have the capacity to understand because they live in a different world a world where value is not the focus and fund raising is.

The candidates think their number one customers are the donors and the voters a necessary evil and Trump realizes that his number one customer is the voter and the donors are a nuisance.


45 posted on 07/26/2015 10:02:15 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: entropy12
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46 posted on 07/26/2015 10:02:27 AM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: ZOOKER

I will be the first to agree Trump is not a “perfect” candidate. But until a “perfect” candidate appears on the scene, he is better than others.


47 posted on 07/26/2015 10:02:58 AM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....)
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To: BobL
Hey DINGBAT, you forgot to mention #7, that Trump is only in it to make Hillary look good. LOL!

I am not a Trump supporter, but I never bought into the idea of him being a stalking horse for ANYbody. He might go in to knock someone out (as Perot apparently did against Bush), but not to set someone up. He doesn't need the money. He doesn't need the prestige. He doesn't have a philosophical ideology to be moved. That doesn't mean he's stupid, but he has more a set of positions than an underlying philosophical reason that drives his adherence to those positions.

This doesn't mean that he is beyond setting up alliances with Cruz or anybody else, but they are for his ends, NOT Cruz'. Ultimately, it is about him. What is refreshing to many is that Trump doesn't pretend otherwise. You need a big ego to run this gauntlet, at least since the days of President Taft. Trump has that in spades, which I guess is his trump suit.
48 posted on 07/26/2015 10:03:15 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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49 posted on 07/26/2015 10:03:48 AM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: GilGil

Well said!


50 posted on 07/26/2015 10:06:35 AM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....)
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To: ZOOKER

That won’t work against Trump. The Media is low hanging fruit for him.


51 posted on 07/26/2015 10:08:08 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: entropy12

I also believe that Trump’s detractors and fellow candidates are overlooking that Trump is in the hotel business which is all about making people happy. That is Trump’s training.

In his approach I bet he is wondering what will make the voters happy and how to give it to them. That is how you succeed in the hotel biz.

That is the big difference between Trump and his competition. Trump wonders how he can cater to the voters and deliver what they want just as he would do for a customer staying at his hotel. He knows if he does that the voter will keep buying from him.

His competition on the other hand is only interested in getting elected and then giving the voter crumbs.

This difference in attitude will vault Trump to the top.

I love the way they keep telling him his unfavorables are high. Trump simply views this as ignorant voters who have not sampled the Trump product yet so he keeps selling and thinks he needs better market penetration. Like any product, Trump knows that if enough people buy it, the rest will follow.


52 posted on 07/26/2015 10:19:08 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

Did he run in 2012? Not for long. “Donald Trump bows out of 2012 US presidential election race
US mogul formally announces he will not seek the Republican nomination, claiming he is ‘not ready to leave the private sector’”


53 posted on 07/26/2015 10:24:02 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: entropy12
RE: Trump [is] exposing their taking republican voters for granted.

Yes and another fear the RNC has is that Trump will reveal that these two are happy to be Democratic Party lickspittle and feel that they are in the D.C. elite.


54 posted on 07/26/2015 10:25:10 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: GilGil
His competition on the other hand is only interested in getting elected and then giving the voter crumbs.

Exactly, as evidenced by this performance of elected republicans:

2008-2010
First they said they couldn’t do anything because they didn’t have the Presidency, House or Senate.

2010-2014
Then they said they couldn’t do anything because Harry Reid was blocking everything in the Senate.

2014-2016
Then they said they couldn’t do anything until the 2016 elections because Obama would veto.

2016-2018
Now they are saying they won’t be able to do anything even with a Republican President because too many Senate seats are up for grabs in 2018.

They promised us they would defund Obamacare. All talk, no action. They said they would reduce regulations on small businesses. All talk, no action. More speeches, no action.

Republicans control purse strings for 5 years through control of the House. What have they done? All talk, no action!

55 posted on 07/26/2015 10:29:19 AM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....)
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To: entropy12

All true, but we don’t know if Trump (or anyone else) would make be much different.

Mostly it is Congress who control things. And in my opinion they should control fewer things and more things ought to be handled at the State or local level. Which means the President would have even less power to make any significant difference in most people’s lives. Which is how it should be. If Trump is for that then I’m for Trump.

I think in general we place far too much importance on the President and that just gives him/her more power than they should have.


56 posted on 07/26/2015 10:32:48 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: entropy12

That is exactly it.

Trump wants to give people what they want.

The candidates want to give the donors what they want and they refuse to see it differently.

As long as that difference exists, Trump dominates.


57 posted on 07/26/2015 10:37:10 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: Pikachu_Dad

What is your point?


58 posted on 07/26/2015 10:38:13 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: entropy12

Trump is a Clinton plant and stalking horse. They know well what the people want and exactly how they will not give it to them.


59 posted on 07/26/2015 10:39:38 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God save us!)
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To: Lorianne

Congress is only 1/3 of the power structure, according to our constitution. It is a fact that spending bill originate in the House of Reps. However the House can not pass any bill all by themselves and make it a law. The president has to sign it for it to become a law.

On top of everything, the president has the biggest megaphone and bully pulpit. How do you think Reagan was able to accomplish so much with a democrat controlled congress?

I concur with your desire to transfer more power from the federal power structure back to the states. But that is unlikely to happen anytime soon because the people who can actually do that are the exact people in charge now in DC. They will not vote to give up power, any more than they will sign their own demise by passing a term limits bill.

May be, just may be, a non-professional politician and businessman like Trump might go along with reducing federal power.


60 posted on 07/26/2015 10:45:31 AM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....)
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