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The most open Administration ever indeed!
1 posted on 05/13/2015 8:27:45 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: entropy12

Secrecy like this stinks.


2 posted on 05/13/2015 8:30:20 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that - Baltimore's Democrat Mayor)
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To: entropy12

It appears that this deal is a more closely guarded secret than troops deployments.


3 posted on 05/13/2015 8:31:44 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: entropy12

Do the Sandy Berger, sneak it out in your socks.


4 posted on 05/13/2015 8:34:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: entropy12

This secrecy is obviously hiding something America would oppose, otherwise why the secrecy?
It cannot be from the other parties, they get to see the same treaty.

This is foul treason, and EVERYONE who supports secrecy here is a pure traitor, looking for ways around the 2/3 majority ratification of treaties.

Paul has a duty to say exactly what he saw. Then he should trust the American people to save him if he is prosecuted.


5 posted on 05/13/2015 8:37:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: entropy12

Sounds like the Plot of another Mission Impossible Movie.

We live in Interesting Times. Apparently we are the only ones who give a Rat’s A$$ about what the Government is doing “for our own good”.


7 posted on 05/13/2015 8:40:31 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary, because it's time for a POTUS without a SCROTUS...)
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To: entropy12
It's like a Dan Brown novel, where an abbey of illiterate monks are guarding the sacred text to keep anyone from stealing it, making notes about it or even reading it to closely.
8 posted on 05/13/2015 8:40:42 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: entropy12

It shows how little respect these republicans have for us. They can’t even trust us to read their bills.

I have never heard of keeping things like ths from the American people. I am ready for this house of cards to fold.


9 posted on 05/13/2015 8:41:49 PM PDT by boycott
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To: entropy12

>From the article: On the other side, Sens.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)
are in favor of the deal—even though it’s unclear if either has, like Paul now has, visited the secret room to read the text. Both could. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and former Texas Gov. Rick Perry are also in favor of the deal, but wouldn’t be allowed through the doors to read it.<

As much as I like Cruz, (I’ve donated to his campaign)...if he votes for this, I done with him.


11 posted on 05/13/2015 8:42:23 PM PDT by bimboeruption ("Occupy till I come" ~ OPORD issued by CIC Jesus Christ)
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To: entropy12

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3289602/posts

Read this. Fast track gives Obama the ability to get it passed on a simple majority. The majority addresses US laws on trade, immigration, and other topics.


17 posted on 05/13/2015 8:59:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: entropy12

This is treasonous behavior.

Legislation must be open to the public. This is complete bullsh1t.

We have nobody representing us anymore. The repubs are spineless and Mitch can’t wait to get this signed.

Reset is coming.


18 posted on 05/13/2015 9:02:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: entropy12; All
This TPP or TPA bill is the worst bill ever. It's a trojan horse disguised as “free trade” but instead leads to unlimited immigration:

The controversial TPP, of course, is disguised as a treaty to promote “free trade” — more properly described as managed or corporatist trade — among nations surrounding the Pacific. However, the TPP agreement, currently being negotiated behind closed doors by governments, dictatorships, and special interests, includes some major surprises. As The New American reported recently, a leaked chapter of the TPP deal would create NAFTA-style international “tribunals” with the purported authority to override American laws, courts, and even the U.S. and state constitutions — all for the benefit of special interests, foreigners, and crony capitalists. The American people and self-government would be the big losers.

Another chapter of the agreement making headlines this week, meanwhile, purports to regulate immigration policies among TPP signatories. “The Trans-Pacific Partnership includes an entire chapter on immigration,” observed Curtis Ellis, executive director of the American Jobs Alliance, in a post for The Hill. “It is a Trojan horse for Obama’s immigration agenda. House members who were ready to defund the Department of Homeland Security to stop President Obama’s executive action on immigration must not give him TPA, which he will use to ensure his immigration actions are locked in when he leaves office.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration

Fast track could lead to unlimited immigration

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/dick_morris_fast_track_could_lead_to_unlimited_immigration.html
The current Pacific Rim agreement, which would include Mexico, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam — Pacific Rim countries (at the moment not China, but eventually it will) — provides that there should be free flow of labor among the signatories, just like in the European Union.

What this means is that Congress can no longer control Mexican immigration into the United States, or Central American immigration, because any law that congress passes, quota-ing or limiting the number of people who can come in legally is superseded by treaty under the Constitution, and this treaty requirement of free flow of labor would vitiate any attempt by Congress to regulate immigration.

22 posted on 05/13/2015 9:15:03 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegally got his FCC gestapo to impose SOROS' regulations on Internet)
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To: entropy12

It’s amazing how far we’ve sunk that WE the people are not allowed to see what our servants are doing to us. And what’s worse we meekly put up with it.

We deserve every thing we get.


23 posted on 05/13/2015 9:16:48 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: entropy12
"The most open Administration ever indeed!"

This is the most cowardly and corrupt congress ever for not standing up for America and putting this Joseph Stalin wannabe in his place!

25 posted on 05/13/2015 9:22:52 PM PDT by Baynative (We are experiencing the type of government the founders warned us about.)
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To: entropy12

I feel like I just saw a horror movie.
Unfortunately this is real.

Why would they want to hurt the American Dream?


29 posted on 05/13/2015 9:56:25 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: entropy12

I’m pretty pissed at Ted Cruz for voting to end cloture on this one. The secrecy nature of this alone tells me it stinks, couple that with Obola’s support and I’m damn sure it’s bad for the U.S. A true conservative would never vote for a bill held in secret unless it was of the utmost national security. A trade bill may have a national security component, but not the entire bill. There’s a stench all over this thing and Cruz better have sufficient reasoning.


33 posted on 05/14/2015 2:53:36 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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BKMK- GREAT thread- great info-great points! Cruz no more.


35 posted on 05/14/2015 4:18:29 AM PDT by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: entropy12

we the people are entitled to know every detail
THESE congressional DIRBAGS WORK FOR US
HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL LEAK IT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
obama is not to be given any carte blcanche.... are the repubs CRAZY or just PAID OFF....


44 posted on 05/14/2015 9:03:47 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: entropy12

We should vote every damn one of them out of office!


48 posted on 05/14/2015 10:50:06 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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