Posted on 09/26/2014 10:28:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
After a week of watching you guys dry-heave at the thought of another Romney run, I thought itd be fun to wind down on Friday by having you dry-heave at the thought of Bushs candidacy instead.
Dude, this is happening. Or is it?
But people who have met in recent weeks with Jeb Bush in New York, Washington and Florida say they are far less certain that a campaign will ultimately materialize. Some described Bush as deeply engaged on issues beyond his usual focus on immigration and education, suggesting he was very much preparing for a national race. Others said it seemed like concerns over how a run would impact his family ultimately might keep Bush on the sidelines.
He told me two things, a person who spoke with Bush recently in Washington said: that he knows he has to decide very soon, and that his wife is not at all happy with the possibility.
It would, however, be a restoration of the family legacy, something said to be very important to the 41st president. A person in attendance at the former presidents 90th birthday party in Kennebunkport this past June said the elder Bush spoke of a Jeb Bush candidacy as a near certainty. The elder Bush is also said to have leaned on his son to run.
His wifes reluctance is allegedly what convinced Mitch Daniels to pass on running. What a gut-punch for center-righties if they lose another top recruit on that ground. Another bit that caught my eye:
He is well aware of party dynamics, but his view is that leadership matters, a lot, said Arthur Brooks, a friend of Bushs and president of the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank. What he says is, I have strong views on Common Core and immigration and those are views that some people dont share. But Im going to provide leadership and ask people to go along with it, and if they cant they cant, Brooks added. Isnt it refreshing to have someone who values truth over victory?
So Jebs going to run as a loud and proud RINO, huh? I confess, that may be the only way to make me semi-enthusiastic about his candidacy not because I agree with his RINOier positions (especially on immigration) but because itd be interesting to cover a GOP primary where theres one unabashed squish in the race whos not trying to pretend hes something else. We thought we were getting that with Romney but then he started pushing self-deportation and insisting that hes severely conservative and no one believed any of it. If we as a party are going to go for the RINO again, lets not lie to ourselves about what were doing.
On the other hand, Rubio took a similar approach last year after he joined the Gang of Eight and it didnt work out so well for him. He didnt run and hide from conservative media at the time. On the contrary, he went on Rush Limbaughs show and made his case for comprehensive immigration reform in other right-wing outlets. He was the Gangs de facto director of outreach to tea partiers; the thought was that a young Latino star with enough of a knack on the stump to get elected to the Senate as a 39-year-old might just be able to convince conservatives to soften up on legalization. Eighteen months later, Rubios in full retreat from the bill ahead of the 2016 primaries. A key difference between him and Jeb, obviously, is that Rubio would aim for some conservative votes next year as a candidate whereas Bush would target center-righties and somewhat conservative voters. In other words, Rubio had more of an incentive to walk back his heresies than Jeb does given that theyre playing to slightly different audiences. But what happens if Jeb runs unapologetically as a pro-amnesty, pro-Common Core RINO and wins the nomination? Hes counting on the fact, I assume, that grassroots conservatives will hold their noses and turn out for him anyway in the general election in the name of beating Hillary. Will they?
Exit question: Does the near certainty of Jeb running per Papa Bush explain why Team Romney has been talking more lately about Mitt eventually getting in? It could be that Mitts inner circle wants their donors to know that they shouldnt commit to Jeb just yet since the big guy might have one last run in him. But in that case, I dont understand why every story about Mitt 2016 mentions that Romney himself is waiting to see what Bush will do; if Bush runs, the thinking goes, Mitt will pass, secure in the knowledge that the rich hawkish donor class has a formidable standard bearer in the battle with Paul and Cruz. (Ann Romney herself suggested this week that they were waiting on Jeb.) If Jeb has the right of first refusal then why are Romneyites talking about Mitt running now? Is it really Christie that theyre worried about and want to discourage instead?
Jawless Jeb no se puede.
.. and runs into a Conservative wall of rejection !
I would rather see Cuomo run as a Republicrat, at least we know what we have as a candidate ..
crap that he is ... At least he is no 'turncoat"..
I , peronally ,am opposed to a political dynasty .
I want no king , ruler, or dictator ,or Messiah !
just a self-responsible President for a change !!
If Jeb runs it will be a guaranteed Dem win.
All the speculation now isn’t worth a hill of beans.
Hell, Obama could get us all nuked before 2016.
The GOP establishment is very well-positioned for 2016. They crushed conservatives in 2014, with only a few exceptions, and they have complete control of the party apparatus, particularly in my first-in-the-nation home state of Iowa.
None of them are the least bit interested in doing any of the things that must be done to save this free republic.
The outlook is pretty bleak, short of a miracle of Providence.
BARF. BARF. BARF.
He can run, but he cannot hide. Jeb has been ‘left behind’ by his party. We as a majority do not want Common Core, Borderfree Amnesty, a return of Affirmative Action in our colleges, ObamaCare-Lite.
Some younger conservatives are saying, Jeb Who? Jeb may have waited too long to go for the top slot as this kind of of (RINO!!!) John McCain type Republican. As the Tea Party merges with some aspects of Libertarianism, we have become bolder in expressing our beliefs and more demanding of our leaders. Run Jeb, I don’t thing that you will be nominated. This is not your Dad’s Republican Party, content to remain a distant, impotent number two.
We are looking to Cruz, Paul and others. Jebby, don’t you have something else going on this autumn anyway, like lavishing yet another stupid, frilly, superfluous “Award” on your idol, Hillary Clinton? What is she doing for you Jeb? Promising not to say you’re as bad or worse than other Bush’es? Don’t hold your breath. A snake remains a snake, even after death, there is danger.
I don’t care if henruns as long as it’s for garbage collector in Mexico!!
Your first two sentences (which may actually be predictions) overflow with optimism, and are in direct contrast with the last two, which resemble the spectre of a demolished Outhouse sinking in bubbly quicksand.
He won’t be winning.
Jeb Bush is the antithesis of what the Republicans need to win.
Amnesty is the defining issue, and Jeb Bush has staked out the worst position possible.
Jeb versus Chelsea’s Clinton’s baby, who do you got?
Jeb versus Chelsea’s Clinton’s baby, who do you got?
If his wife doesn’t want him to run, he won’t run! Thank you Mrs Bush!
I wish he’d run off a short pier.
No more Bushes, no more Willards, no more Clintons, no more leftists (in both parties).
I’m not sure why you would read that as optimism. In fact, it was a statement of the sad facts.
well, have to say that he is qualified adn more so than most but insn’t that the problem? We have more than enough politicians trying to gain office, but very few that just want to change things - ie, newcomers.
You’d think that after many years that the folks would figure this out but NO... These idiots keep election those folks that they can remember - name recognition - or in today’s dollars, money spent.
Ah yes, we are such a great nation that depends upon those voting have no idea why they are voting for whom...
Wonderful future isn’t it? First, give thanks to our wonderful education system - America is horrible and anything else is better... Seems that children (and most teenagers (have been so programmed that they think that freedom and democracy is a BAD thing).. Heaven help us!!
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