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Tammy Bruce: Protect New York's Children from the Gay Elite
FrontPage Magazine ^ | 7/31/03 | Tammy Bruce

Posted on 08/01/2003 7:57:36 PM PDT by MikalM

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1 posted on 08/01/2003 7:57:36 PM PDT by MikalM
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To: MikalM
Two points:

1. I'm proud to say that my kid (the fifteen-year-old rifle-totin' horse-breaking ribbon-winning professional website-designer foxhunting reenacting NRA member) just won a prize as DC radio station WMAL's Caller of the Day for making just the same point on the air that Bruce just made in print. She also observed pointedly to host Chris Core that all the people he had on discussing this were in their fifties and hadn't been near a high school in 35 years, so maybe they didn't know what they were talking about.

2. How come Tammy Bruce can write like this when she is a lesbian? How does she deal with the cognitive dissonance? It is puzzlement.

2 posted on 08/01/2003 8:08:23 PM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: MikalM
An important article -

The 'logic' of segregating these children is exactly what Tammy Bruce says - it is sacrifice.

How can the sensibilities of all Americans be so appalled by what Catholic priests have done to impressionable boys and not see that the same lies and enticements used by the priests are being used by any adults who try to convince young teens that they have a 'special' gender identity.
3 posted on 08/01/2003 8:12:35 PM PDT by maica
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To: MikalM
It's worrisome how much time and energy conservatives are wasting on this tiny little school which has been around for 20 years. Sure it's being expanded now -- to accommodate a whopping 100 students in a city school system with an enrollment of over 1 million. These are troubled kids for whom the alternative to this school is almost certainly out on the streets turning tricks and doing drugs. Their parents are either MIA or support the choice of school, since there's no way any kid is being enrolled in this school over parents' objections. Ignore it and move on!
4 posted on 08/01/2003 8:19:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: maica
Trust me, these kids convinced themselves long ago of their "special gender identity". If anything, attending an all-gay&transgendered school will remove the incentive to identify as gay or transgendered as a form of rebellion. The only way to rebel in this place is to announce that you've realized you're straight :)
5 posted on 08/01/2003 8:22:06 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Ping.
6 posted on 08/01/2003 8:22:56 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Carindal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I appreciate what you are saying about kids who 'self-identify' as not XX or XY, and I support alternative schooling for many different reasons. Gender dysidentity is no reason to celebrate with such hoop-la.

How many of the hundreds (or thousands) of boys 'influenced' by Catholic priests thought that they were gay when the priests suggested it, and are now living painful lives as adults because of the damage done to their minds by a trusted adult.
7 posted on 08/01/2003 8:35:25 PM PDT by maica
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To: MikalM
BUMP
8 posted on 08/01/2003 8:35:53 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.)
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To: maica
And somehow conservatives aren't going ballistic about the existence of Catholic schools, even though that's where much of the abuse started. I guarantee that more boys have been molested by Catholic clergy in NYC this year, than are going to be enrolled in this expanded "gay high school". And those clergy are violating a trust, and acting with vile hypocrisy. The people who run the gay high school are honestly trying to help these kids, being totally upfront about who they are and what they believe, and probably not sleeping with any of the kids ("out" gay men have a lot more outlets for their desires, than closeted ones such as gay priests, and are less likely to take advantage of youth in their care).
9 posted on 08/01/2003 8:44:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: MikalM
…. there is a sick movement among the homosexual academics and the radical gay fringe to change the age of sexual consent in this nation to 12-years-old.

Good Lord! I never even thought about that!!!

As much as I disagree with Tammy’s “choice” (her words, not mine and I bet the gay community despises her for that admission), she is in a much better position to know what the “fringe” (maybe fringe?) gay society is thinking than I ever will be and she’s not afraid to call the kettle black.

I thought this high school was about special rights and libs doing their interest groups a “favor” by segregating them but her insight in the gay movement and willingness to speak out against the use and abuse of our people and our culture by the liberals really leads me to respect this women. She is a woman not to be ignored.

10 posted on 08/01/2003 8:48:54 PM PDT by lizma
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To: MikalM
Separate school and state - let gay teens' parents fund their own school.
11 posted on 08/01/2003 8:49:58 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: MikalM
From a listener of Tammy's old radio show, here's a Sandbox BTTT.
12 posted on 08/01/2003 8:57:43 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: Capriole
How come Tammy Bruce can write like this when she is a lesbian? How does she deal
with the cognitive dissonance? It is puzzlement.


Must have something to do with her being a self-described (gun-owing)
law-n-order lesbian.
All I know is that if I ever stumbled into her presence at a shop here in Los Angeles,
I'd still try to convince her to go straight...just like about a thousand guys in LA have.
13 posted on 08/01/2003 8:58:55 PM PDT by VOA
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To: MikalM
BTTT
14 posted on 08/01/2003 8:59:36 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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To: MikalM
>> I warn about the sexualization and targeting of children by the radical gay fringe.

Right. I remember the way Ms. Bruce acted in front of children attending and Operation Rescue function. She stuck out her tounge and breathed on someone (an adult) and said "How do you like Dikes breath."

Maybe she has changed, but I don't see why conservatives are giving her airtime or any play. She did lots of harm while she was "defending" the death mills in Los Angeles (and other places).

15 posted on 08/01/2003 9:09:50 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: MikalM
INTREP
16 posted on 08/01/2003 9:55:57 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: GovernmentShrinker
It's late... I'm tired...but you need to corrected, friend.

And somehow conservatives aren't going ballistic about the existence of Catholic schools, even though that's where much of the abuse started.

I went to a Catholic school, the Priests were great, it was the Nuns that were freaking Natzi's. I'm 46 now, if I saw a certain nun cross the street, the gas pedal to the floor would be an automatic reaction.

I guarantee that more boys have been molested by Catholic clergy in NYC this year, than are going to be enrolled in this expanded "gay high school".

You can't guarantee anything, shut your pie hole!

The only thing you guaranteed is your elevated level of ignornace.

The people who run the gay high school are honestly trying to help these kids, being totally upfront about who they are and what they believe, and probably not sleeping with any of the kids ("out" gay men have a lot more outlets for their desires, than closeted ones such as gay priests, and are less likely to take advantage of youth in their care).

Now that is priceless - probably not sleeping with the kids

What, pray tell, gives you the clue to say, "probably not"???

When you learn how to present your side of the argument in a logical manner, come on back. HINT - your guarantee is meaningless, unless you oversee the operation and have a direct influence. Your statement of probably not sleeping with the kdis really set me off. How the hell do you know?

Like I said, when you figure out how to present your side in a logical manner, try again. In the mean time, my advice is to keep your pie hole shut.

LVM

17 posted on 08/01/2003 9:56:23 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: 1stFreedom
No body is perfect. She's a likeable person with a strong sense of right and wrong and she doesn't push her sexuality down people's throats. As far as I'm concerned her private life is her own business.
18 posted on 08/01/2003 9:57:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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19 posted on 08/01/2003 10:05:12 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: goldstategop
Uh, the point of my post is that she does or did push her personality down people's throat.

"how do you like dikes breath" and breathing in someone's face is a very strong way of pushing one's sexuality on another. She wasn't keeping her private life private.
20 posted on 08/01/2003 10:11:28 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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