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Tammy Bruce: Protect New York's Children from the Gay Elite
FrontPage Magazine ^ | 7/31/03 | Tammy Bruce

Posted on 08/01/2003 7:57:36 PM PDT by MikalM

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To: Dimensio
A lot of women, when confronted with a good sample of the "men in the world", start to wonder why they are not lesbians.

Excellent point. LOL. I know about the quality of many of the "men in the world," but I never could connect being disillusioned with men to going lesbian. To me, a hetero female, the choice has always been: A man or celibacy.

41 posted on 08/02/2003 5:22:25 AM PDT by alnick
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To: LasVegasMac
Now that is priceless - probably not sleeping with the kids. What, pray tell, gives you the clue to say, "probably not"???

Because there have been enough instances of straight teachers in NYC schools sleeping with their students, that we can't be sure this isn't happening at any given school, including the gay school. Though the gay school is subject to so much extra scrutiny, and in danger of beeing shut down if such activity came to light, that I think the teachers there are substantially less likely to sleep with students than at the regular schools.

42 posted on 08/02/2003 5:23:58 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ysoitanly
Tammy Bruce Alert!
43 posted on 08/02/2003 5:36:08 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: pram
The New York City schools spend a colossal amount of money per student throughout the system, and get very poor results. They're not spending any more on the students at the gay school than they would be if they were attending some other city school. I'm no fan of public schools in general, and even less of out-of-control big urban public school systems. But as long as they're squandering my money on poor educations for the kids (I am an NYC taxpayer, BTW), I'm not going to get worked up if one in 10,000 of the kids in this system are attending a special all-gay school.

As for it being a "model school that others are supposed to emulate", that's what the operators of virtually every oddball experimental school say. But this place has been around for 20 years, and as far as I know no other school system has emulated it yet (perhaps there's something like it in San Francisco, but I haven't heard of it). Personally, I think we'd do better to worry about the kind of alternative public schools that Johnny Taliban Walker attended, where kids are encouraged to pursue any line of insanity that strikes their fancy, with little supervision, and to the near total exclusion of any real academics. There are LOTS of those schools, enrolling a huge number of students. And about the ordinary schools in big cities, where kids learn precious little beyond how to do drugs, have sex, and fight.

A couple of years ago in an NYC high school, a girl was raped during math class, with the teacher present. The teacher claimed she hadn't seen it, and police and media interviews with the other students revealed that this was a perfectly plausible claim, given the usual conditions in the classroom. The noise level was deafening so the teacher wouldn't have heard anything (nor would the students have been catching much of the "math lesson"). A couple of boys stood up in front the rape location to block the view, and the teacher knew better than to endanger her life by trying to force these young thugs to sit down if they didn't want to, so she just went on with the "math lesson". Can you understand now why I think far too much angst is being expended on this teensy little gay school?
44 posted on 08/02/2003 5:43:19 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: kuma
You can demand that any criminal scumbag in a private institution be turned over to police. It's not a matter of taxpayers' money. Crime is crime, wherever it's committed.
45 posted on 08/02/2003 5:48:09 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
At a cost of $30,000 / kid, how many parents will encourage their kid to 'pretend' to be, what is it they want to be called today, Queer?, so they can enroll in these elite schools?

I think you need to do a little more reading up on this school. It is anything but "elite". It is for kids who haven't been functioning even at the low levels which are normal for the NYC public schools, and offers "academics" like "culinary programs" -- i.e. classes aimed at helping these kids get absolutely bottom-rung jobs, like short-order cook, since most of them are at serious risk of never getting any job at all. College-bound kids of any sexual orientation will definitely want to attend school elsewhere.

FYI, the often quoted $10,000/year spending per student in NYC does NOT include the colossal budget of the corruption/nepotism/mob saturated NYC School Construction Authority. Most of the money mentioned in previous articles about this gay school refers to the upfront construction (actually renovation/remodelling) expense. There is no evidence that this school is spending more per student than any other NYC public school.

46 posted on 08/02/2003 6:30:00 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Travis McGee; GovernmentShrinker; LasVegasMac
Societies exist when members of any group decide to act according to a certain set of rules. For the 'society' of the United States to continue, it is agreed that children will be introduced to the set of rules that will most likely support a healthy 'society.' That is why the family is given special tas benefits, and why education of the young is supported by tax money.

It is normal to question 'rules' and it really is the job of an adolescent to question the world of adulthood which he is approaching. At the same time, it is the job of adults to set the boundaries beyond which the adolescent should not go. This is dynamic, of course, not static.

That being said, the adults of today have not set appropriate boundaries, and the most adventurous/rebellious youths are having to go farther and farther to find any barrier to behavior at all.

In fact, adults are actively selling homosexual behavior to our children. For the past 20 years, girls and boys have been exposed to so much sexual influence, and 'normal' sexual behavior has been radically redefined. The idea that certain kinds of behavior can be 'wrong' is a concept which will be lost to new generations if we do not start resisting this corrosion of Rules of Society.

You say we are making too much fuss over '100' students.

I say this school is a serious alarm bell to awaken citizens to the harm being done to our next generations by a certain group of people who want not 'tolerance' or'acceptance' but 100% acknowledgement that perverted sex practices are normal and celebrated.
47 posted on 08/02/2003 6:57:58 AM PDT by maica
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To: MikalM
Bump.
48 posted on 08/02/2003 7:00:27 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (>>>>>Liberals Suk. Liberalism Sukz.<<<<<)
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To: maica
The idea that certain kinds of behavior can be 'wrong' is a concept which will be lost to new generations if we do not start resisting this corrosion of Rules of Society.

Pay a visit to a regular NYC public high school. The concept has already been lost to the vast majority of the generation attending (and to much of the generation teaching). The little fringe gay school is the least of the problem.

It's not that I think the gay school is a great idea, but the forces of rationality have got to stop letting themselves be diverted by fringe issues, while the bulk of our society is in urgent need of attention.

49 posted on 08/02/2003 7:09:00 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Capriole
Why is your kid breaking horses? Can they be fixed?
50 posted on 08/02/2003 7:12:39 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Why is your kid breaking horses? Can they be fixed?

Very funny. Actually the stallions we break do usually end up being "fixed"!

51 posted on 08/02/2003 7:30:41 AM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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52 posted on 08/02/2003 7:35:31 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: maica
In fact, adults are actively selling homosexual behavior to our children. For the past 20 years, girls and boys have been exposed to so much sexual influence, and 'normal' sexual behavior has been radically redefined. The idea that certain kinds of behavior can be 'wrong' is a concept which will be lost to new generations if we do not start resisting this corrosion of Rules of Society.

Too right. You comments are succint, pointed, and I wish to God more people could see the truth the way you said it.

53 posted on 08/02/2003 9:26:29 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Travis McGee
IOW, mixed up adolescents who can be convinced they "may" be gay will be lured into this homo recruitment trap.

This is common now. In Eureka CA recently (I lived there for a while) there was a special "place" funded by local gov't hung with "rainbow flags" (what the hell do rainbows have to do with sodomy???), ads were everywhere about it, huge signs - for Gay, Lesbian, Bi, and QUESTIONING youth. They are including this QUESTIONING crap everywhere, and if one of these poor confused kids sees one of these "gay" counselors, that's it. He's enrolled in a lifetime membership in the "gay" community since the kid had one weird thought or weird experience.

And with all the sexualization of culture, media, entertainment and permissiveness - or being pushed into behaviors - it's common for young adolescents to have had a weird thought or experience. Then they are told: "You're Gay, and you can't change." No wonder they are suicidal and on drugs. What a death sentence.

54 posted on 08/02/2003 9:32:14 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: alnick
I know about the quality of many of the "men in the world," but I never could connect being disillusioned with men to going lesbian.

A large percentage of lesbians were molested wshen young. Same for male homosexuals. When little girls are molested by men, it is a horrible terrifying and painful experience that scars them terribly. Some become extra-sexualized towards men at an early age, some turn to women, and some deal with it. And more and more adult lesbians are seducing adolescent girls. It's very very sad, I've seen it happen to a close relative. Now this person really wants children and family but having chosen the "gay" path it's an empty, miserable future.

55 posted on 08/02/2003 9:38:36 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Thank you.
56 posted on 08/02/2003 10:09:12 AM PDT by maica
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To: Capriole
I think what happened to Tammy was that she was raped at a young age and because of that she is not mentally able to deal with heterosexuality. I could be wrong, but I believe she's written about it.

She is a great and brave woman to go against the agendaists. I think pram summed it up in the other post.
57 posted on 08/02/2003 10:47:11 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: alnick
To me, a hetero female, the choice has always been: A man or celibacy.

The only problem with this reasoning is that it begs the question of why any man would want to be heterosexual.
58 posted on 08/02/2003 11:34:29 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Dimensio
What???? Please clarify.
59 posted on 08/02/2003 12:41:47 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
That is awfully sad. My heart goes out to her then. But she should be dealing with that in the office of a good psychiatrist instead of turning to a life in the arms of women. I suppose though that it's very difficult to find a psychiatrist who comes from a conservative perspective and could actually help someone who has been traumatized turn away from homosexuality.
60 posted on 08/02/2003 1:14:28 PM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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