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State sues over online cigarettes
The Seattle Times ^ | 1 November 2002 | Paul Queary

Posted on 11/02/2002 10:59:44 PM PST by SheLion

OLYMPIA — Attorney General Christine Gregoire is trying to force an Internet cigarette dealer to cough up its list of Washington customers so the state can levy its steep tobacco tax on them.

The state Department of Revenue estimates that perhaps 40 percent of the cigarettes smoked in Washington are contraband — smuggled in from out-of-state, bought at tax-exempt Indian smoke shops on reservations or purchased by mail or through the Internet. ( CONTRABAND????)

"We estimate that contraband cigarettes maybe account for $250 million of lost revenue," (ahhhhhhh) Gregoire said. "It's lost taxes to the state of Washington, that goes without saying. It's also not fair to the brick-and-mortar store in Washington that's abiding by the law."

The lawsuit filed yesterday in Thurston County Superior Court seeks an injunction against dirtcheapcig.com, which sells cigarettes online from Kentucky, forcing the company to disclose its customers within Washington.

That would allow the state to track down the buyers and collect both the cigarette tax of $1.425 per pack and the 6.5 percent use tax — the tax the state levies on out-of-state purchases by Washington residents in lieu of the sales tax. (Good Luck)

The company bills itself as "The last refuge of the persecuted smoker."

A 10-pack carton of Marlboros sells for less than $30 on the site, compared with as much as $50 in Washington.

The lawsuit seeks to invoke the Jenkins Act, a decades-old federal law that requires dealers who ship cigarettes to customers in another state to provide that state's authorities with a list of customers every month. The law was designed to prevent large-scale tax evasion, and the state argues that it applies to Internet sales.

But Matthew Fairshter, the company's lawyer, argues that the law was designed to regulate the shipment of untaxed cigarettes from one state into another. The smokes sold by dirtcheapcigs.com are all duly taxed in Kentucky, he argues.

"They're not buying untaxed cigarettes, which is what the Jenkins Act is all about," Fairshter said. "The Jenkins Act does not regulate this issue."

Fairshter also argued that the state's lawsuit violates the Internet Tax Freedom Act, which protects online sales from taxation except where the transaction actually takes place.

"This company operates out of Paducah, Kentucky," Fairshter said. "It does no business in the state of Washington."

Mike Gowrylow, a spokesman for the Department of Revenue, said the Internet Tax Freedom Act was designed to prevent new and discriminatory taxes on Internet sales, not pre-empt existing laws such as the Jenkins Act and the use tax.

"This is neither new nor discriminatory," Gowrylow said.

In general, Internet and mail-order retailers can't be compelled to collect Washington taxes or provide customer lists unless they're physically located here.

That puts the burden of paying any taxes on the consumer, who typically doesn't show much interest in paying.

Enforcing the use tax is virtually impossible except on large items such as boats or cars that must be registered with the state.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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To: Lizard_King
Porno is running rampant over the Internet. The Government is pulling their HAIR out trying to remove it. They can't.

If the Government removes online sales of cigarettes, I think it will take them a long long time!


41 posted on 11/03/2002 8:51:44 PM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER

Vote on Tuesday.

Do the right thing.


42 posted on 11/03/2002 8:53:14 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: SheLion
Yes, I guess from a purely practical standpoint you are absolutely right. I guess I still have a knee jerk reaction to the potential criminalization/regulation of something on principle that ignores what the material consequences would actually be. They are certainly capable of making the law, therefore, is my amended position, and no doubt penalizing what small fish they catch...actually enforcing the law is another story.

Thanks for the Joe pic...reminds me of saving up all that Camel Cash when I was a kid only to find out that regulators forced them to drop the program. Bastards...killing Joe like that.
43 posted on 11/03/2002 9:22:32 PM PST by Lizard_King
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To: Lizard_King
Bastards...killing Joe like that.

I hear ya!

We sure had some cool pictures "back then." But the Anti's hated them. So, here we are.......cigarette pictureless.

44 posted on 11/04/2002 1:30:56 AM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
So, the internet cigs will be taxed TWICE. Once in the state they are slod in and once in the state they are shipped to.
Double dipping that chip. THAT'S what it's all about.
45 posted on 11/04/2002 6:30:37 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: chance33_98
Good Morning :)

Good morning! We have to stop MEETING like this. LOL

46 posted on 11/04/2002 6:34:52 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Dedbone
Was that a 105 Holister or a 155 Holister?

Oh Gawd. I am sure he told me, but you know girls.......I just know that from the pictures, it was a very long tube! The guys were even shown standing on top of it. Fired one at a time, I know. Have you seem one?????

47 posted on 11/04/2002 6:38:11 AM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
bttt
48 posted on 11/04/2002 6:46:01 AM PST by lodwick
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To: Nam Vet
good monring nam viet (phu bai 101st 70-71) bugler will kill you...i smoked it when i was a teen cause it was a dime a pouch. fold a handkerchief in half and half again and roll a bugler non filter and take a drag on it thru the hanky....you won't believe the stuff that comes out of bugler!!!!! lol you can also try yessmoke.com they come from switzerland and 14.95 for marlboro 100's.
49 posted on 11/04/2002 6:50:23 AM PST by cajun-jack
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