Eden Prairie company may flee proposed smoking ban for businesses yeaaaaaa

startribune.com ^ | Aug 30, 2002 | Terry Fiedler

[SheLion]

Paul Ansolabehere is a nonsmoker and marathon runner who regards smoking as "a terrible habit.

But he's prepared to sue Eden Prairie or move a 350-worker manufacturing facility from the city if it approves a proposal that would ban smoking in private businesses.

[SheLion]

These people drive me absolutely NUTS!!!!!!

They are pre-disposed to cancer, can't understand it and need to feel the anger and blame somebody! So, who is the easy target? The SMOKERS by george! Blame the damn smokers for all the deaths in the world!

Well, when they cure death, I might quit!

[Jaidyn]

Your post could be said of a lot of things. How much do Americans spend a week at the movies? What if they invested in them, instead? What if the millions of consumers had the money back they invested in rental movies? Don't you have any hobbies? How much money could you save if you never took a vacation? Or bought soda? Or is just smokers who blow money?

[SheLion]

Or is just smokers who blow money?

He just loves coming in here and trashing us. He hits and runs.

[Max McGarrity]

That doesn't mean I'm giving up the fight. But I am changing tactics. That's one thing that going to Las Vegas was about for me.

I sure hope you intend to share, ol' buddy.

[Max McGarrity]

Here's a much more likely scenario:

Bob and Jim. Jim quits smoking and invests his money; Bob cuts back to about a pack a day and starts making his own. Jim plays the market, worrying and stressing every time it falls; Bob marries a lovely lady who feeds him well and doesn't care that he smokes. Jim's wife, a harriden who hates everything he does, divorces him and takes 3/4 of his money. Jim starts drinking. Jim has a heart attack and dies from the stress of his unhappy life; Bob, in the meantime, is still doing something he enjoys, and has saved $395,710 by making his own. Bob and Mrs. Bob buy a boat and sail around the world.

[Great Dane]

Give up a drink a day, and you would get the same result, matter of fact, you can give up a lot of things and get the same result.

[B4Ranch]

How much does it cost to have three cocktails every day? Please include a 20% tip in your figures.

[Just another Joe]

Max, with everything that has been going on, I'm still going over my notes from the FRiva seminars.
You just let me know what you want me to share, (other than my paycheck heh heh, and I'll be more than glad to.
Shoot, I'm still trying to get pictures ffrom FRiva scanned in so that I can put them on a server somewhere and link to them.

[backhoe]

Like other smoking-ban campaigns across the state, the Eden Prairie effort has received financial support from the Minnesota Partnership for Action Against Tobacco (MPAAT), a nonprofit group established with part of the money gained from the 1998 settlement of the state's lawsuit against the tobacco industry. MPAAT made a $200,000 grant to the American Cancer Society to help smoking-ban supporters in Hennepin County.

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MINNESOTA PARTNERSHIP FOR ACTION AGAINST TOBACCO ST PAUL, MN 55103 MINNESOTA PARTNERSHIP FOR ACTION AGAINST TOBACCO (MPAAT) IS AN INDEPENDENT, NON-PROFIT FOUNDATION DEDICATED TO REDUCING THE HARM THAT TOBACCO CAUSES MINNESOTANS. CREATED IN SEPTEMBER 1998, MPAAT WILL SERVE MINNESOTA FOR 25 YEARS THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF GRANTS AND BY CONDUCTING OTHER APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS FOR HEALTH, COMMUNITY, AND ACADEMIC ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN SUPPORT OF RESEARCH AND CESSATION ACTIVITIES THAT WILL ENCOURAGE AND HELP TOBACCO USERS QUIT.

[SheLion]

I sure hope you intend to share, ol' buddy.

I second that! I could use some ideas!

[SheLion]

Bob buy a boat and sail around the world.

[SheLion]

MPAAT WILL SERVE MINNESOTA FOR 25 YEARS THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF GRANTS AND BY CONDUCTING OTHER APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS FOR HEALTH, COMMUNITY, AND ACADEMIC ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN SUPPORT OF RESEARCH AND CESSATION ACTIVITIES THAT WILL ENCOURAGE AND HELP TOBACCO USERS QUIT.

Maine has their twin sister: Partnership for a Tobacco Free Maine. Sure! IN SUPPORT is not a bad thing, but these coalitions are bending over backwards to have smoking BANNED in businesses to include restaurants AND bars. This was not the idea behind these programs, but the money and the power went to their heads. They became Judge and Dictators overnight.

For instance: PTFM spent $14,500 at a RACE track for ONE day at Speedway 95! They are spending thousands sponsoring "5" race cars AND several race tracks throughout Maine! This is NOT how that tobacco settlement money was to have been spent.

To advertise that they are there IF any smoker needs their help. But NOT by sponsoring race tracks, teen trips, T SHIRTS and all those frills. And by NOT dictating to private businesses how they have to run them! They have gone way over the top in their power hungry control.

Today, the people are getting wise to them and now they are afraid of losing their huge honey pot of funding. They are going full speed ahead now , trying to justify their spending spree. It's too late. To many people now know what a waste of funding it is. This money needs to go for precription drug care for seniors and for the poor uninsured people.

The PTFM put out a report on the local news yesterday that $73 BILLION is being spent in health care! I fired off several letters. $73 BILLION WHERE? Surely not just in the state of MAINE! They are in left field. They said that since they started up, teen smoking has decreased. I said "Well, the CDC just brought out a report that teen smoking in Maine has remained unchanged. Who is lying to who here?

Adolescent and School Health

These coalitions blame Big Tobacco for advertising in magazines to teenagers. Did it ever occur to anyone that it takes TWO? The EDITOR is the one that inserts the ads. NOT Big Tobacco. And I have yet to see a magazine for teens put forth by Big T. Have you?

The Tobacco Settlement money created monsters in each state that are nothing more then overblown gluttons. Throwing "OUR" money around like they lost a rich dead uncle. Well, my uncles are dead!

Serve 25 YEARS??

Yes, ONLY if that money remains from the smokers who pay the taxes on cigarettes. ONE reason the FBI is trying to crack down on the Internet sales! So these stupid coalitions can continue receiving their big Honey POTS of FUNDING!