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Bush Mexican plan resurfaces
washingtontimes.com ^ | Feb.15, 2002 | August Gribbin

Posted on 02/15/2002 6:40:26 AM PST by healey22

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:37:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Bush administration is pushing Congress to act on the president's plan for granting amnesty to millions of Mexican workers living and working illegally in the United States.

Amnesty and the related "guest-worker" issue have surfaced anew partly because Mr. Bush is preparing once more to take up the matter with Mexican President Vicente Fox in Monterrey, Mexico, on March 22.


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To: Shermy
"grassroots. politicians differ in immigration". Seems like it's more, "grassroots, politicians differ on almost everything important".

IMO, grassroots suporters exist as a revenue stream to the top leadership in the repulicrat and demican parties, ie.; financial suckers and guaranteed voting blocs and local grunt workers and cheerleaders they can count on all the time. The closer the election gets. people when they get right down to the ballot box, mostly chicken out and will continue to vote for blowhard A or B, every single time. The two parties have one thing in common, that they both 100% agree on and work together on, every election I can remember. both of them pull out the stops in the media to scare people to "not waste their vote", push that lie that your vote-no matter who you vote for-is somehow 'wasted" if you don't vote for one of the "annointed ones". Phooie, biggest historical scam running. Not to me it's not, my vote is as important as anyone's, and it doesn't matter who I vote for, it's still important, never wasted.

61 posted on 02/15/2002 11:54:40 AM PST by zog
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To: healey22
Bush has been a good President on a lot of issues, and compared to algore is much more preferred. But on this immigration issue I have no idea what he's thinking. This is not in the national interest.

If it's any consolation though, I seriously doubt any kind of amnesty or guest worker program will pass this Congress. I just don't see the support there. But I've been wrong before.

62 posted on 02/15/2002 11:56:37 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: healey22
Nobody is listening to what the American people want.

We as average Americans are no longer represented. Our own leaders, both in DC and in business no longer have America or Americans in their best interest. Profit above patriotism will drive this nation into a ditch.

Our borders are a national disgrace, and our immigration policies are a complete "free for all". If we don't regain control of our sovereignty soon, it will result in total chaos for the United States.

We are more concerned with other nations borders than our own. We have 30,000 troops on the border in South Korea, while our own borders continue to be wide open to this titanic invasion of millions.

63 posted on 02/15/2002 12:00:05 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
'Arab Terrorist' Crossing Border-Middle Eastern Illegals Find Easy Entrance Into U.S. From Mexico

I guess the President and Karl Rove hope that Americans miss this little piece of news.

64 posted on 02/15/2002 12:04:56 PM PST by healey22
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To: DoughtyOne
Isn't it nice when a thread degenerates into reality? It almost gives one hope.

So true.

65 posted on 02/15/2002 12:08:03 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: WRhine; Zog; Joe Hadenuf
Bttt to you all.
66 posted on 02/15/2002 12:08:15 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Howlin
This could be the one that pushes me over the edge, too.

Group jump?




68 posted on 02/15/2002 12:17:34 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: healey22,Joe Hadenuf,rightwing2,Marianne,ratcat,golitely,Uncle Bill,archy,nunya bidness,rdavis84,
The article linked in reply #64 by healey22 is outstanding. Strongly recommend everone read it now.

This is from reply #36:

Will we ever tighten up the borders with Mexico when ME terrorists come through there? A country without borders (deliberately porous with those who get through made legal) is no longer a country

69 posted on 02/15/2002 12:17:46 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Darth Falar
The citizens patrol group is an excellent idea with shades of the way Americans used to police themselves, but it is unfortunate that such a group would likely be charged with hate crimes by the PC government.

Right you are on that one.

The guy in Arizona, think his name is Roger Barnett? His picture was on some magazine, may have been Time, but it was him holding a gun in his hand trying to make him look like some right wing nut.

This is just someone trying to protect his property from being overun by illegals because the federal government won't or can't do it. Private citizens protecting themselves from invasion will be portrayed by the media as being nothing more than Nazi thugs.

It's getting to the point where more and more folks are just telling the media to stuff it.

70 posted on 02/15/2002 12:18:21 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Howlin
This could be the one that pushes me over the edge, too.

Group jump?




71 posted on 02/15/2002 12:18:27 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: healey22; JustAnAmerican
If Bush betrays our trust by granting amnesty to these law-breakers, my whole family's votes go elsewhere, too.

Bush would be no better than Benedict Arnold. In point-of-fact, he'd be worse. Did he ever mention this illegal alien amnesty scheme during his campaign?

72 posted on 02/15/2002 12:26:37 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Shermy
"Grass roots, politicians differ on immigration"

Doesn't it strike a note when the concept of politicians refusing to represent the public citizen's wishes on important matters is put right in everyone's face?

It's now the accepted Norm. I just don't comprehend folks allowing it.

73 posted on 02/15/2002 12:31:21 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: Reaganwuzthebest;Darth Falar
The citizens patrol group is an excellent idea with shades of the way Americans used to police themselves, but it is unfortunate that such a group would likely be charged with hate crimes by the PC government.

I am not worried about the pc crowd. A Citizens Patrol Group would stand guard and apprehend illegal aliens crossing our border.

I am not talking about abusing anybody. We would apprehend them and turn them over to the appropriate authorites and hope they do their job.

It is like a citizens arrest.

Remember the Guardian Angels in New York - everybody used to call them vilgilantes and eventually everybody realized what a good job they were doing. I think the time has come that we serioulsy think about this since our pleas for a secure border is falling on deaf ears in Washington.

Republicans want slave labor for the big business friends and DemoRATS want illegal votes. It is going to be up to us, the average American Citizen to bring change or kiss America goodbye.

74 posted on 02/15/2002 12:33:57 PM PST by healey22
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To: norton
That really would be cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

Unlimited immigration, erasing the borders and legalizing drugs are right at the top of the Libertarian campaign plank.

If Bush does this, I won't vote for him, but I won't vote for the Libertarians either.

75 posted on 02/15/2002 12:37:52 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: healey22
I'm for it, I think it's a good idea. Otherwise it's this for everyone's future.
76 posted on 02/15/2002 12:38:11 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: WRhine
http://www.petitiononline.com/immiGBA/petition.html...Can somebody make a clickable link?...This petition needs some serious help!!!
77 posted on 02/15/2002 12:38:40 PM PST by blaze
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To: 4Freedom
Bush would be no better than Benedict Arnold. In point-of-fact, he'd be worse. Did he ever mention this illegal alien amnesty scheme during his campaign?

In fact, did he even bother to mention it during his "state of the union" speech when all of America was listening? NOT! This is going to be some type of back room deal and they will try to confuse the issue and hope most Americans don't understand. You can better believe it won't be called Amnesty.

78 posted on 02/15/2002 12:38:59 PM PST by healey22
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To: Border Guard
Thomas Jefferson once said that ETERNAL VIGILANCE is the price of freedom. That is certainly true when it comes to the issue of immigration, (both legal and illegal). Generally, I agree with a lot of what President Bush is doing, but, his position on immigration issues escapes me, particularly with wanting to grant amnesty to 3 million, (what about the OTHER 8 to 10 million?), illegal aliens. RATHER THAN JUST RANT AND RAVE ON THIS FORUM, HOW ABOUT TAKING EFFECTIVE, CONSTRUCTIVE ACTION BY BECOMMING INFORMED ON THE ISSUE, AND WORKING THROUGH IMMIGRATION CONTROL AND REFORM ORGANIZATIONS TO LOBBY CONGRESS. Even though well paid by special interests; citizens, when intelligently mobilized, are still the most powerful lobby that Congress knows. TO THAT END, LOG ON TO http://www.fairus.org and http://www.americanpatrol.com and http://www.numbersusa.com . THESE GROUPS CONTAIN A WEALTH OF USEABLE INFORMATION, FREE FAXES TO CONGRESS, AND PREFORMATED LETTERS STATING MUCH OF WHAT EACH OF US WANT TO SEE ACCOMPLISHED. SO, PLEASE DON'T JUST SHOOT THE BREEZE ON THIS FREE REPUBLIC FORUM. GET INVOLVED CONSTRUCTIVELY.
79 posted on 02/15/2002 12:39:19 PM PST by Border Guard
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To: blaze
For a Responsible Immigration Policy Petition
80 posted on 02/15/2002 12:43:02 PM PST by healey22
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